More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[Beattiebow]

I've started a new thread!

Sassy - thank you for the advice, I had said that: I was sorry for the loss of her baby the first time I saw her a few weeks after he had died. She told me then, about how she got the phonecall that he had died while she was on the way to the hospital, she described in detail where she was and her feelings. He had been very ill for several weeks and she was up at the hospital most of the time, but had to go home occasionally for her other children. I think that was why it was so difficult to know what to say next, to give her the opportunity to talk more if she wanted to or just to let her know her son was not forgotten. I felt I couldn't repeat the words "sorry for your loss", but I was lost for anything else to say. I did say "how are you doing now", but that was so lame, and she just started talking about work and being busy, despite it being clear that there was more to be said. Sorry I am waffling a bit here, I want to be able to help this mum (if/when I see her again), but you are the only person I know that can give me genuine good advice, because you really know what this mum is feeling as you are going through each day missing Catherine. If you would prefer me not to ask then please tell me, I don't want to cause you any more pain than you aready have in your heart.

Sassy - so you think you are going to meet up with Aunt Flo in France do you, I hope that she doesn't find you there and that you have to race back across the channel to grab the baton again

BB - please I am on tenderhood here in the snug waiting for you to tell us the result of your morning test...... I better join in with sassy "Go BB" "go BB"......

Hippy - where are you? are you still lost on the IOW? Do we need to send out a search party yet?

Well I am 11dpo and still BFN on test, so does look like I am not pregnant. I now have the dilemma of when to stop the progesterone.

Morning! So any news Beattie??
GG let's hope you're worng too about af x
Didn't take temp this morning and feel strangely liberated .
Off for a rare shopping trip with a girlfriend this afternoon
Back later!

GG comes into snug makes a round of hot chocolate for all who enter and puts freshly made lemon drizzle cake on the table, and sits back waiting for BB to come and make her announcement............

MUchlove has wandered in with a hangover and panda eyes sits on sofa and stares at wall..... needs at least 2 hours to come round but mumbles(in a Marge Simpson voice) morning' to GG wraps throw around her and snuggles up.......

Well BB what's the VERDICT coz trust me if hubby saw a line (they not as vision-on as us) U must be upduffed ....waiting...waiting

SAS How ya feeling Missus ? When r you orf to France ?

DIEGE Could you get me some paracetemol in town please ....

GG Maybe give it one more day (to test) and if deffo neg stop the PROG ..... and could I have a chunk of cake .... many thanx

x

GG I've decided that if I ever get a BFP again I am going to get Bloodtests to check my level over a 48 hr timeframe and if the readings are low then I will take the PROG supps again ..... so will see how I feel....

BB If that is + maybe you should start the supps again honey just as a precaution......

x

muchlove - unfortunately for me, my hcg levels did brilliant doubling times on my prog-m/c's. There was no way for me to know even with the scans. With one I got heartbeat and all, it is just no use me stopping very quickly. I did stop with the last one when at 8 weeks the little one was still measuring two weeks behind. But I felt guilty after one day of missing the prog, so started it again until I had actually started bleeding. However with my dd the first scan measured two weeks behind (I have a tilted uterus) at 7 weeks they could only see a sac measuring 5 weeks. But two weeks later baby was measuring correct for dates. My dd is the result. So no scan can be reassuring for me, no blood tests. I have just learnt to be patient and not raise my hopes too high. But hey what am I doing here moping. Come-on, hangover or not, you and I are going to arrange a surprise party for BB when she comes in with her fantastic news.

Oh I really hope we get to have a celebration .... I can't drink the champas tho might just have to have a fizzy pop ......

SAS I'm thinking of you sweetie

x

no celebration here I'm afraid.

Still in limbo though - had faint positive again this morning and high temp, but have had cramps and some spotting during the day which made me sure that af was on way. but hasn't come yet . not sure what is happening really.

I haven't bought any more tests though, but have re-started progesterone. I don't dare stop in case I am pg and that causes me to mc. Otoh it could just be prolonging things.

Sorry all about me!

diege and GG and Sassy baton is back with you for now!

Hello! Back from town
Well Beattie I would say that there must be ^something* going on in there pregnancy-wise, and the high temps fit wit it too. Would it be worth trying another test brand, maybe the dreaded clearblue digital?

I daren't do that one! the dreaded words "notpregnant" would be too much to bear. (also too expensive!).

Yes I agree Beattie, I'd be the same
So maybe wait a few days and then order a load of ebay cheapies perhaps? How are you feeling about it all? Excited or sressed out?

(Short bereavement asdie... GG Don't mind you asking me at all... nice to know you are concerned about your friend... very few people ask and mean it, so just signalling you are interested and willing to talk is enough. "I'm been thinking of you alot... how are you coping" will be fine. Then pause and look interested - make sure you have time to listen If you feel like you don't know what to say.. just say that. I know it sounds like hollow shite - but quite frankly what else is there? )

Am in France now... it's sunny... well not now obviously - it is dark....

BB - have everything crossed for you!

Still cramping today - expecting AF tomorrow, bang on schedule. So much for the EMSp...

What shall we try next month?

Off to drink some cheap wine now

Mwwwahhh kisses to all xx

Oh la la, sassy has gone all continental on us, mwwwahh back darling, and have a large glass of red for me!

Beattie - well you are definitely preggers, I just hope and pray that this is a keeper for you. The spotting would be caused by the stopping of the progesterone, and the cramping is normal uterine stretching, so all good at the moment I think. I just hope that things progess well for you. Get yourself into the EPU for reassurance soon if it would help. Here in the snug, I will have your glass of champers and you can have a fizzypop along with muchlove!

GG settles back under the slanket and dozes for a while.

That does sound positive Beattie. I'll have a glass of champas GG...I had a very nice G&T out on the deck, in the sun, yesterday.It feels like summer is coming our way, although it is much cooler today and i believe it may be cold on our holiday! Oh well, that's fine, we'll just have to keep the slanket close at hand.

How long are you in France Sassy?If RTD does find you tomorrow, got any plans for next try?I'm thinking I might have to get the Preseed out.I don't like using it - it's very slippery !But it is good for the troops and I've not a lot of the EWCM anymore.

I also spotted this natural-fertility-info.com/21-day-fertility-diet-challenge.html and registered, so might give it a go when I get back from holidays.I've no idea what it entails as they won't tell you til you've signed up and then you have to wait for them to get back to you, which they haven't done yet. I don't know if you have to pay, in which case I'll probably not do it.

Can't wait to see if BB gets a lovely BFP!

Afternoon . That fertility link looks intersting Gum, though I agree that if it costs I'd not take part I think I may also be using the dreaded pre-seed next month as 'issues' here too with EWM, or lack of.
Beattie if you're lurking I have everything crossed for you - the more I think about it the more it sounds like you are indeed pegnant, and that the prog is responsible for the spotting as Galwaygirl says!

(Hippy arrives throwing sticks of IOW rock onto the table).

Beattie sounds like it could well be good news for you. fingers crossed my love.

Blimey you lot do natter!! It's just taken me an age to catch up.

You are not gonna believe this - we did it 4 times on hols (3 of them were 3 days in a row)

So I almost did SME. We SWi'd on day 9, day 11, day 12, day 13 and day 15. The ones in the caravan were all thanks to a box set of the Simpsons which the boys watched whilst mum and dad had a lie in .

Bless 'em there weren't even locks on the door and they never disturbed us.

I am very liberated - i haven't temped all month and actually preferred it. I did take a few OPK sticks and got a positive on day 11 and 12 so hopefully we did enough.

I just need to do some SWITI now and then it's all I can do for this month.

I like what you've done with the place sas.

I haven't read your blogs yet but will read them asap. I know now before I even start reading that I will sob and want to hug you - so here's one in advance (((()))

I can't even go near TKMAX without thinking of you and Catherine and the beautiful dresses and feeling really upset for you (sorry).

Sorry to those of you who thought you might have got a BFP this month and then didn't. sas I think you are still in with a chance. I felt like my period was coming for definite the first time I was pregnant.

My 7 year old got himself upset tonight - he started talking about the baby we lost in Feb. I said it just wasn't right and it wasn't meant to be and he told me not to say that it makes it worse. How shit did I feel wiping his tears away and promising I'd try hard to get him another baby. He said if I had 2 MC's in a row his life would be awful (lucky he doesn't know about the second one!)

I told him we were very lucky to all have each other and if we didn't get another baby we'd be ok. Blimey I hope all that shagging in IOW pays off this month.

We definitely, definitely, definitely need to move there. I was so happy there and slept so well. We went to visit 2 senior schools whilst there so that we can compare them to the ones locally when we do the rounds next week. The school was great. The possible move has given me something else to focus on rather than bloody TTC.

Someone asked how long everyone had been trying. It's over a year this time but I got preg after 5 months and then after 3 months. 5 months is the longest it has taken me to get pregnant so far. So sorry to hear you've been trying so long italian - I can't imagine how hard that must be .

I guess I'll keep trying until I get another BFP but might well stop if I have a 3rd MC.

Stupid comment of the year came from DH - "This month is the last one that would give us a spring time baby, if we arn't successful we should stop and try again next summer!" What an idiot - just cos the boys are spring babies - does he have no idea how feckin' old I am???

Gum cd6
jolls cd
Diege 7dpo
40someMum age42 cd 9
Hippy aged 44 5 or 6 dpo
GG age 42 cd25 12dpo
Sassy 13dpo
muchlove
BB (?????faint line) age 40
Curlylox age 43 CD39??
10000ff
lottie
italiangreyhound - waiting for May

I HOPE I HAVEN'T JUST COCKED THE WHOLE THING UP!!! Just took Friday's info and added 2 days.

Evening all! Have finally found time to sit down and catch up. Been suffering from a severe bout of busyness, which I now realise is less to do with me being incredible, efficient, domestic wonderwoman, and more to do with impending AF visit. Now I understand why I 'had' to paint the bedroom walls at 7am this morning and do an extensive impulse shopping trip this avo in the rain, acquiring 'essential' items along with way, such as gold shimmer dry shampoo, an £11 tiny bottle of desert wine and a large supply of mini green and blacks, the latter two of which I've already enjoyed....

Wishing you all a good week!! I've left out mini pastries on the kitchen table for brekkie.

Ps - sorry- can't see the msg at the mo from someone asking where my name is from - is inspired by the sight of the fireflies in Italy - thousands and thousands of little blinking lights in the dark - a really magical sight.

Sweet dreams!

Hi 10000fireflies I've eaten a pastry already - sorry couldn't wait for morning.

We haven't 'met' before - welcome to our thread. Not sure how the snug came into being but we like it there.

(Am i the only one who actually pictures us all sat in there together???)

I think there was a song recently called 10,000 fireflies wasn't there? I loved it.

night night

Thanks for your thoughts Hippy and welcome back you?ve been away a while I think. Five years does seem a long time for me to have been trying. I too got the ?guilt? trip from DD who asked me to please try hard and have another baby when we were visited by a friend and her new baby earlier this year. All I can say in relation to you and your son is that you don?t ?owe? them a baby, so do your best and don?t feel guilty. I?m learning not to! By the way, three in a row! Three times in a row or three days in a row!

Sassy hope you are enjoying France, it is wonderful place. I just love the supermarkets, getting all those exciting foods!

Muchlove what are the blood tests for? Do you mean extra tests from the GP?

Galwaygirl I hope you are able to be some help/comfort to your friend who has lost her son.

Diege, Gum, Beattie, 10000fireflies - greetings to all*.

I was at my clinic on Friday! We had a good chat with the consultant, a different one, who kindly discussed immunity issues. Thanks to a book I read (in the waiting room!!!) I asked about my hands, and the fact they get stiff and could be it rheumatism related. Will let you know when I know more.

Scared about getting weighed this week, what is going on in my insides! Been a bit constipated (TMI) too many bananas and a not enough other fruit!

Watching Juno, it?s aching sad (and annoying) of course I can associate with the prospective adoptive mum not really the teenage pregnant girl!

Morning!
Hippy me old mucker, great to have you back and thanks for the rock Sounds like a great trip and very impressed with all the SWIing .
Italian sounds like you have a good consultant there, and let's hope s/he can give you some relavant and useful info'. What day is your weigh-in?
Well I crumbled yesterday and tested at 7 dpo. I got what I thought (at the time) was a glimmer of a line on the first test, but then the 2 that followed were def neg. Now I know that day days post-ov would be too early for most people, but then the test info said from 6-15 days post-ov . I have suitably scoulded myself though and will not be testing again (really). I'm pleased I've stopped the temping though, and will resume next month just until ov is confirmed. I'm def sleeping better!
Here's to a good week in the snug - lots of treats and some good dvds for us all I think!

Hi diege it's nice to 'see' you all again. I can't wait til I'm telling you all about our move for real.

italian ONCE a day for 3 days - blimey - 3 times in a row (the DVD box set wouldn't be long enough for my DH to recover inbetween!!!!)
So you get counselling in relation to your next try at IVF then. That's good. Is it to prepare you for if it doesn't work or is it to check you're fully committed to the idea??

I know I don't owe my kids a baby but I can't help it - I feel like I do

We are going to visit my friend's baby soon. She was the one I was pregnant with at work. She has no idea how she got preg when she did cos she wasn't even speaking to her hubbie at the time - there is no justice .

GG runs into the snug throws herself at hippy in the classic un-mn hug "welcome back, I missed you"
Then realises deige has scoffed all the pastries good thing I came in with freshly baked blueberry muffins!

Deige - glad I am not the only one being naughty with early testing. I tested again today, bfn, so now trying to decide when to stop the progesterone.

Hippy - how will you feel seeing the baby do you think? I have three people just had babies in the last week. Two of them on the same day. One is my boss, who I will have to do the dutiful visit to soon. and the other is a neighbour, who is still in hosptial at the moment, but I will also have to visit once she is home. Hoping with both i get a quick cuddle of the baby and then run out as fast as i can!

tenthousandff _ sorry numeric pad and keyboard strokes gone funny on me> wanted to say like your style with the wine and choocies

Deige, STEP AWAY FROM THE TESTS! It is TOO early, but that little glimmer of hope could mean something...Do you have any symptoms - its very exciting!

Welcome back Hippy, it is nice to have you back in the snug.You did the SMEP very well, especially on holiday! Well done. You get first pick from the box of chocolate pralines that I'm leaving in the snug.

I'm off on Thursday for a week, and have no idea if I'll have the net where I'm going, so may have a whole week without you all, which will be kind of weird.

This is where we are going: www.welcome2australia.com.au/locations/augusta/

The holiday ties in nicely with SWI time, but I've no idea how much privacy we'll have. I think it'll be alright, and isn't holiday time the best time to get knocked up? When we're all nicely relaxed. I hope it does the trick for me. I'm ready.

Italian you seem a very patient person.Five years TTC is a bloody long time, but you are still positive and optimistic - you're a fabulous role model.

Updating the list:

Gum Aged 43 cd7
jolls cd
Diege 7dpo
40someMum age42 cd 9
Hippy aged 44 5 or 6 dpo
GG age 42 cd25 12dpo
Sassy 13dpo
muchlove
BB (?????faint line) age 40
Curlylox age 43 CD39??
10000ff
lottie
italiangreyhound - waiting for May

P.S: where are you Beattie, do you have news?????