Emmsys weebles; pop in for a chat, there's always someone in the greenhouse

[VJay]

How's that? Just hope we all haven't had the same idea and there are now 5 new Emmsys threads

well we have never been seen in the same room at the sam time 4ever, maybe we are the same person (which is really why I couldn't come to the meet curly )

Jude absolutely loved swimming; I was so amazed! I thought he'd hate it as he's only really just started liking baths and I do them quite warm! He sat in his little floatie seat and propelled himself along with his feet on the floor, smiling away, was sooo cute! He was fascinated by all the big kids in there too.

Right, well Strictly starts in 20 mins and I have to go do bedtime duty, boo :( iplayer it is for me!

lol cupcake in that case I can't wait to meet you AKA 4ever on Tuesday

sorry I've been awol again. I'm desperately trying to finish off my final assignment work so there has been no partying in Curly central :) and I've just heard curlygirl wake early from her nap so my plans to get some done now are down the swanny

dh has brought her down so she is helping me type. just wanted to send love to you all, lovely to see QA back (big hugs hon) and I will catch up properly will you all later. Glad hospital appointment went well louey if a bit but at least we'll get the chance to have a proper chat in real life soon x

And big (gentle) hugs to poor ouchy 4ever, mastitis is awful but it does get better quick once treated. When it gets better, I found a quick massage of the girls (.)(.) in the shower every morning really helped stop it happening x

Big waves to everyone, thinking of you all especially lovelys monkey and mermaid and moon and sabs happy belated Eid, I'm sorry I so intended to text you but I'm a flake . I did in my head though :)

Nice back rub heading mls's way too. So excited

well done on weightloss too clever VJ and neeko :) I seem to be just putting it on since I stopped bf. Must be the cake every day x

Happy sunday lovelies :)

Curly how have you found stopping bfing? Did you and dh both decide 6 months was the cutoff?
Dh and I keep having this debate at the moment. I really don't want to feed past 8 months at the latest (starting to stop at 6 months iyswim) but dh is completely against formula feeding for some reason... I am really torn about the issue cos in a way it feels silly to switch to formula when I have milk (which is dh's argument) but I already feel I'd like my body back, and desperately don't want to be feeding a big beefy 1 or 2 year old who could potentially throw tantrums about getting boob

Ds has been waking sooo much the past couple of weeks & I've been really stressing about how obsessed with boob he is incase it's horrible to make him 'quit' so in my eyes, the sooner the better but am I just being selfish? (dh thinks so)
(last night for the first time dh went to him at his first waking, 10pm, and gave him just 1oz of ebm then rocked him to sleep while he cried solidly for 20 mins. Was v hard for me to hear but he did give in eventually & slept til 5am so I'm hoping we can crack him.)

Can you just talk to me a bit about your decision? That goes for Vjay, blue, neeko, barbie etc too... just really can't decide what to do. I know it's a few months off yet, but I want to make a firm decision before it creeps up on me. Sorry for massive ramble and to hijack the thread slightly just really want some wisdom from you ladies

Hi Cupcake It's been ages since I bf, so I'm probably not much use, but I do think you have to go with how you feel, as you are the one feeding him. Your dh's argument does make sense, but he is not the one doing it, is he? Wrt feeding a 1 or 2 yr old, I b/fed until ds was 15 months, and he didn't ever get stroppy about having a feed as I guess he was still too young. We did go through a few hiccups when he got teeth, but that's another story

What about doing some feeds with formula and maybe the morning and night ones from the boob? Then you'd have freedom during the day, and it might appease your dh too? I cut down very gradually from exc bf'ing and by the time we stopped my boobs didn't even notice.
Probably no help at all, sorry! Hope the others have better advice than me

Afraid I haven't had chance to go back to catch up properly, as this week has been manic. On Monday I was out the house by 5.30am and not back til after 9pm Not sure if I mentioned that already - cannot even remember if I posted during the week or not Sorry! Anyway, the week carried on like that, and I am now shattered, but bracing myself for another week the same...

Things are pretty sh*t here tbh. Our dog is starting chemo tomorrow, my AF has started today and I miss my mum so much. Have had dull aches and pains 'down there' since OV so pretty sure that my endometriosis has come back, which means there is very little hope of getting pg if that is the case. I feel like everything is falling down around me, and I can't prevent any of these awful things from happening. God, sorry for the total me post, I didn't mean to write all this out

I really hope everyone's okay, and I should get a bit of time next week for a proper catch up, I hope so anyway! 4ever I did read that you have mastitis, you poor thing - is it getting better? It is really horrible isn't it Have you got blocked ducts? I have a fab method of unblocking ducts (not for the fainthearted ) so if anyone needs to know, just say!

Blue Hope B's okay?

Neeko Thanks again for your lovely text, gave me a boost to know you were thinking of me You are wonderful

Must dash as stuff to get ready for tomorrow... I HATE getting up so early, argh!!! Love to all xxx

Oops. meant out the house by 6.30am, not 5.30!! That would be even worse

Just popping on to give Monkey some hugs as I think you could do with some. I hope the chemo works for your doggy .

Will do a proper post soon - have had a pretty dreadful weekend - DS2 threw up in the early hours of Friday morning and then I came down with it yesterday afternoon. Was supervising DTs at a birthday party at softplay at the time. Had to go off to be sick in the loos. Not fun! Really hope to be better for our meet up on Tues.

Hey louey, sorry you all have the lurgy...

Not bene on for days, just so much going on at the mo'...

monkey - hug, then release and repeat as much as you need.. It just shouldn't be this hard for you, its just not fair. You keep getting hit emotionally over and over and now the worry with your pooch . Is your DH giving you lots of tlc? Thinking of you lots xxxx

cupcake - ahhh the bf/bottle debate... I was going to bef both boys until 6 months Isaac had 3 months and Ben 5 months. Combination of bottle refusal, crippling night feeds etc. etc.... I also like you just wanted my body back after a while, after nine months of pg and 5 months of breast feeding I'd had enough, was starting to resent Ben and I had no sex drive whatsoever whilst milk was coming out of my boobs..

Formula can be a life saver in terms of giving you some space, a break, the whole nine yards..

I never looked back both times when boys went on the bottle and felt well 'free'.

I still snuggle with Ben every night on the rocking chair giving him his bottle so you don't lose any closeness .

Hope it works out whatever you decide but remember happy mummy = happy baby and your DH is not the one doing the feeding...

Hi to everyone else, off to bed xx

Oh and Neeko's Hannah was baptised today, bet she was resplendent and beautiful (and I'm sure H was cute too )

Im back

Will read the thread back through once i get a quiet moment and catch up as soon as i can.....

Welcome back barbie

congrats to neeko hope it was a lovely day and big waves to the lovely blue

Just wanted to come on and give a massive hug to monkey. You have had the most horrible year so it is amazing that you cope well most of the time. Hormones can't be helping either so please just take it easy on yourself and have a big cry if you need one (we'll be here with hot chocolate and icecream). Can you get a scan to check on the endemetriosis. After what your body has been through in the last year, there are probably going to be lots of weird pains especially around AF so it may not be that at all. At least if you know you can look into treatment, but it may not be there at all. Is there something lovely you could do with DS today to make you smile? Big big hugs and hairstrokes honey xxx

poor louey that sickness bug sounds awful. Hope you can make it tomorrow but if you are sick we'll understand. So long as you make our december meetup. Sending you lots of getbetter vibes though to sort you out before tomorrow :)

cupcake there is an unbelievable amount of guilt associate with BF. I think it is wonderful to breast feed for a long time but 6 months is what is recommended because this is when they get the best immunity. Very few people last that long even. I felt a bit sad stopping but I feel a thousand times better for doing it. It can be so draining and curlygirl was starting to be so distracted by everything around her that it just wasn't practical any more. She loves her bottle. After 5 months I cut out one bf each week and replaced with a bottle. At that stage she was having 5 feeds a day including the dream feed. I cut out day time feeds first, eventually just leaving the 7am and 7pm feeds as bf, then just the morning feed by 6months. I think curlygirl would have been a lot more attached later on whereas actually at 6 months she didn't even notice :) Do whatever works for you and Jude and ignore anyone who hasn't personally got their boobs out to feed him (i.e. dh and everyone else!!!) You have done and are doing a wonderful job as his mum xxx

lots of love to everyone. Must go do assignment work!!!

Wow busy thread again, good to see! Where to start?

Big hug for Monkey methinks... So for you.. Its been non stop hasnt it? I agree that hopefully the endo not back, just your poor body still recovering. Really hope things work out for your doggy too.. Its when its all falling down around your ears that you are bound to miss your mum terribly... I really feel for you so much x

Just want to send a big hug to Mermaid too.. Thinking of you very much for tomorrow and hope all is going well with you...

Neeko hope you had a beautiful day yesterday, looking forward to pics!

Louey hope your feeling better from the lurgy, would be gutting, but do understand if you cant make tomorrow what with all the babies there

Curly im so looking forward to the meet, i am a weeny bit nervous! Silly eh? Wierdly though, its actually 3yrs tomorrow since my first mc so its very apt that we are all meeting!

Welcome back Barbie! I have missed hearing about your Barbie moments!

Blue full of fabby advice as usual!

Lastly never leastly my alter ego Cupcake totally agree, its your body not dhs! I had same thought about stopping bf after the mastitis but will keep going to 6m, but already pretty much do ff all day, with bf in the early hours if needed and morning. If shes grizzly in the day between feeds i do bf but am gonna try and cut that out.. I say trust your instincts and do what you feel like..

Btw Summer loved swimming! So cute in her pink polka dot cossie and ring! Also had a nice day on my dads birthday on saturday. Was quite weepy in the morning, Summer teething badly so hadnt slept much, but very sad as dh pointed out, that my dad should of got his first ever grandad birthday card and just gutted that he never got to be one, and she will never know him.. Still we had a lovely meal out, booked the restaurant in his name, and got Summer to let off a Happy birthday balloon into the most beautiful red sunset, was really special..

Morning

Firsly a big hug for monkey {{{{{hug}}}}}, can you get yourself to the doctors early so that you can get the ball rolling on any treatment you may need? It's having that feeling of control which will help you, because I bet at the moment you don't feel very much in control. I do hope the chemo works for your dog. I really feel for you at the moment, I wish I could reach through this page and give you a proper hug

cupcake I stopped feeding Ajay at 7 months, but was forced to stop due to the strong painkillers I was on. I was upset, but he was happy enough so inturn so was I

neeko hope the Christening went fantastically well, was thinking of you yesterday

louey hipe you are feeling better.

mls was your dd early? I know you've told us before but I can't remember, I want to start a babymls sweep.

Big waves to blue barbie 4ever and curly and the mia girlies mermaid moon jools qa and Happy Eid sabs

babymls sweepstake

Vjay; BOY born 17/10

That's DS1's birthday and if it's a boy it will be late

You girls are simply the best....

Over the last 4 pages you have made me laugh, cry, snort, and giggle....
Truly the best thread ever!

Gosh i missed you all, i wanted to get on to catch up on all the gossip but we had no internet and it seemed too rude to spend ages at somebodies house using the internet. Thanks to 4ever and mermaid for passing on my messages...

vjay i so desperately wanted to join you for ajays birthday...i didnt have your number so did the next best thing and get the girls to pass on the message...im one proud cyber ant! Your story proves to all the small panters that it can be done

monkey hugs, hugs and more hugs....i wish so much that i could win the lotto and get you (and everyone else) out here for some r&r.... cocktails, sun and some girlie giggles, wont take away your problems but would help you to relax and realise how much we all love you and want everything to work out for you. Im sorry about your dog Can you get a doctors appt re endo? fingers crossed it isnt that...oh and your wee man is just too cute!

moon i was screaming at the computer at one of your post i think you wrote that you felt you had failed? You so haven't failed! There isnt a dead line, so that means you haven't failed, just means you havent succeeded yet. It will be your time....i remember wanting a baby in my 20's, didnt happen for me and im still a yummy mummy being 30 is where it's at! Im excited about the wedding, have you booked it yet???

mermaid im so of you living in the westcountry. We had some lovely days out in perranport and padstow, the weather we kind to us too...Dolly even got a little tan on her face! Hope things have settled down for you now...been thinking of you

Bakingqueen* lovely to have you back, sorry about your sad news...how did you find Dubai????

vjay and neeko fab weight lost girls im going to join you again...dh bought me the WII fit, and i have 9lb to lose in 3 months so im 9 stone for going home for christmas. I do look a right twat idiot pretending to hula hoop in the living room though! neeko hope the christening was fab..pics???

mls i was worried that i would miss the birth, but thankfully your fb status kept me upto date sorry to hear you are feeling unwell, fingers crossed it will pass once your ds dd arrives!

4ever your post make me smile, you are just so in love with your dd it just jumps off the page. I hope your boobies are feeling better and the cabbage smell has gone Im sure there was so much more to say to you but im speed typing while hoping that Dolly is settled for the night and cooking dinner...ill get back to you.

curly how is your gorgeous dd, did you resort to cc? We had it easy in the uk, was out most of the time so most naps were conducted in the car..back to reality now

blue hope the little one is back to his gorgeous self... rashes are scary arent they? Your hamster story was the thing that made me snort along side the story from vjay

louey how are you feeling now?? better i hope... damn the bfp. Again, im sure i wanted to say more to you, but i cant remember...ill be back to normal soon and will catch up properly

cupcake im still bfeeding and intend to until Dolly is one. Dh is fully supportive thankfully. If i want to stop sooner he will support me in that too. I have had two moments so far when i thought i might stop sooner...one was reading an article in one of the sunday mags, the women stopped bf and lost half a stone in a week i was having a fat day and decided it was the best thing for me to do to lose weight the second time was when Dolly was just playing, on and off, pulling, scratching etc etc, i really did have enough at that point.
We still cant get her to have a bottle so unless she takes milk in her sippy cup i have to keep going
Hope you mini break was good, always nice to see the grandparents, they spoil the baby rotten and gives you a few moments where you are hands free!

Boo to all the bfn on here, we will get there..the big pants bench will once again be full, i have every faith...

Im missing people out so apologizes, Its not that i think you are any less important but im running out of time. Im back now so normal posting will resume.

We are all good this end, Dolly was great at home, slept well, waking only once most nights, got spoilt rotten and behaved beautifully.

2 bags of clothes and toys made their way back with us along with a few purchases dh and i made...god isnt zara for kids just the best shop??? Its the poor mans bonpoint! I love it!!!

One scary moment though was when Dolly screamed in pain one night, it was so bad dh put his shoes on getting ready to take her to a&e she passed a hard stool and then was screaming in pain for about 20 mins while the rest was being forced out (tmi im sorry!) i cried too while trying to keep her calm ann soothed. Took her to the doctors and it turns out she was very badly constipated (no shit shurlock!) so she is still on medication and is a little out of sorts...coupled with her not knowing what time zone to follow im in for a rough few nights i guess?

oh sabs well done for surviving ramadan

Gotta dash xxx

Just a quickie again - sorry! Will do a proper post soon I promise.

Just wanted to say I'm feeling MUCH better and haven't puked since Sat night so I think I'm fine to meet up with you tomorrow

barbie welcome back home - glad you had a good time, apart from Dolly's constipation. And I haven't investigated Zara for kids - will have to now you've said that...

sabs fab pic of Saara and will be able to tell you that in the flesh tomorrow - eek!!!

monkey hoping that today was a better day for you. I'm sure the long working days are not helping at all at the moment. I too have had lots of weird twinges since the mc and I'm pretty sure I don't have endo so it could be unrelated.

cupcake tbh I am a bit at your DH for putting that kind of pressure on you about bf'ing. What would have happened if J hadn't taken to bf'ing at the start?? Or you had been ill/taking some kind of medication and couldn't (like vjay). You have to make the decision to stop bf'ing when you are ready to do it. As the others have said, it is your body and it does take an awful lot out of you.

got to go - too much work to do. Isaac had 2 hospital appts today so my work has suffered.

Cupcake - your body so imo, you have the final say, however it is yours and dh's son and so, he is entitled to an opinion.

My situation is so different to you that my three experiences probably won't help but here they are

My bfding decisions have always been taken out of my hands as I've never had enough milk really. With dd1, I fed her for 4 weeks and then she screamed at me all day if she wasn't feeding and wasn't putting on enough weight so hv suggested adding in some formula.
With DS, we got to 8 weeks, again v slow weight gain and falling backwards on the charts and hv suggested offering top ups. This was the end of bfding with him as , as soon as he realized there was an easier way to get milk, out went the bfding.
With DD2, we have got to 17 weeks now [ proud mumme emotion] but I think the end is in sight - I'm moving her over to bottles during the day and tonight, at her bedtime feed, she wouldn't settle and so offered her a 6oz bottle which she scoffed and is now asleep. So, I think the 7pm feed might now need to be a bottle. Makes me a bit sad really but am very happy to have got this far and would like my brain back and some energy as I'm sadly lacking in both at the mo! However, if I'd had the milk, I'd probably have continued as even though it's draining, it's so convient and it's about the last opportunity you get to be spontaneous for a while ( you get tied into needing to be home for food, sleep or you need to take them with you, just in case you don't get back) - having said that, once weaning starts, the advantage goes.
I also see your point about feeding a baby being a bit different to feeding a toddler and Monkey, arghh teeth!

Sabs Lucky you getting two christmas's! Hope you had fun at Eid and Saara looked lovely

Quickie from moi to say welcome back barbie and

curly4everlbmiggysabsjoolslouey enjoy your meet up

monkey - still thinking about you .... xxx

Morning lovelies. Just a quick one to say can't wait to meet some of you later and yay for louey coming

and I won't talk about the details as mermaid told us privately but just wanted to send you much love for later. I'll be looking skyward tonight and thinking of you and your family. Big hugs lovely lady xxx

And big waves to blue we need to organised that Scotland meet-up!!!

im at you all meeting, have fun though! oh and can we have some pics????

Have fun today you lucky meet-up ladies and post a group pic if you can.

{{{{ mermaid }}}}}

Have i missed something re mermaid????

Since everyone else is sending her a hug im sending some too {{{{hugs}}}}}

Hi barbie she emailed us via the emmsys site that Gracie set up, you are on that aren't you. It's in amongst all the London meetup emails. They'll all be having lunch now

Big waves hello to Barbie and Vjay!

Well us girlys met up and it was really wonderful! I was so nervous this morning but obviously they are all as lovely in RL as they are on here!

Curly thank you so much for organising it! Your kindness and warmth that transcends through your posts is so genuine and sincere in RL too.. Curlygirl is gorgeous and I have often thought of the similaraties between her and Summer too!

Sabs you are too generous! It was amazing to meet our gorgeous 2nd graduate! Im glad you were as nervous as I was! Again, a very lovely lady in RL, but I knew that already!

Jools I felt for you and so wish you had your own blessed bundle of joy to share with us, you wouldnt be human if you didnt have a few moments today, Im sure you must of, and I just want to say I salute you, and keep 4everhopeful brave lady, cos we are all willing your dream to come true as much as you are..

LBM my preggers and mummy buddy it was so great to meet you and Jo Jo after sharing our journeys! I still find it mad that there is so little time between our babies! Your girl is such a dainty pretty little thing! Its mad to not only put faces to (real) names but also voices!

MLS you looked radiant and beautifully blooming! I really miss being pregnant, I think its such a special time, especially when we have had such a journey to get to that stage and not dared to believe we would sometimes! Sadie is a treasure, what a joy to be around, she must of kept you smiling even through the darkest days! Really excited for you and was secretly hoping we might of all got to meet and deliver our next graduate! Its soooo close!

Well, it was a pleasure and an honour to meet some of the ladies that have kept me sane and kept us all smiling! Just wish it could of been all of us...

Just want to finish by sending a big hug skywards to Mermaid hope the clouds were held apart

Lovely to hear you all had a great time and thanks 4ever for giving us a quick summary . Would have so loved to have been there.

mermaid - hope the sky was bursting with colour xx