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Do Americans really decorate .....

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BeaLola · 05/12/2022 23:40

Every room and outside at Christmas ir is it just in the cheesy Christmas films currently on Netflix and the like ? I mean poinsettias and wreaths in the kitchen and huge displays outside ? In many ways it's amazing but is it just in the films ????

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Piggywaspushed · 08/12/2022 17:01

I have Christmas china, too. Sent to me form America by my DM who couldn't tolerate me not having any.

Gwenhwyfar · 08/12/2022 17:44

RLScott · 06/12/2022 04:00

In Ireland (where I am) it is common to have a Christmas tree with lights on display in the living room window...it’s wonderful going past the houses and seeing them (especially when the room light is off which is common). You will then also get a house that is completely covered in lights/decorations.

Its an interesting topic this as Christmas is very un-American. Christmas was not widely celebrated in America until 1870 (it was seen as an English custom after the revolutionary war and it wasn’t celebrated by many including g.washington). It has always been a public holiday in England and Ireland, but only became a federal holiday in the US in 1870. Thanksgiving (which marks Pilgrims (puritans) getting fed) is more a US custom. I find it strange they also mark Christmas a month later as the bigoted, persecuting Protestant pilgrims shunned Christmas (“catholic invention” and “rags of the beast”) and fined anyone caught celebrating it, before it was outlawed completely. The puritans in England also banned Christmas but their influence was tiny in England (puritan laws were declared null and void following the restoration in 1660) in comparison to America.

I love Christmas even more for its rebellious aspect in defying bigots. BBC article on this:

www.bbc.com/culture/article/20141219-when-christmas-carols-were-banned

“During the Puritans’ rule of England, celebrating on 25 December was forbidden. Singing yuletide songs then was a political act, writes Clemency Burton-Hill.

When it comes to revolutionary protest songs, what springs to mind? Billie Holliday’s Strange Fruit? Bob Dylan’s Blowin’ In The Wind? Sam Cooke’s A Change is Gonna Come? I’m guessing the humble Christmas carol is probably low on your list of contenders, but in mid-17thCentury England, during the English Civil War, the singing of such things as The Holly and the Ivy would have landed you in serious trouble. Oliver Cromwell, the statesman responsible for leading the parliamentary army (and later Lord Protector of England, Scotland and Ireland), was on a mission to cleanse the nation of its most decadent excesses. On the top of the list was Christmas and all its festive trappings.

To Cromwell and his fellow Puritans, though, singing and related Christmas festivities were not only abhorrent but sinful. According to historical sources, they viewed the celebration of Christ’s birth on 25 December as a “popish” and wasteful tradition that derived – with no biblical justification – from the Roman Catholic Church (‘Christ’s Mass’), thus threatening their core Christian beliefs. Nowhere, they argued, had God called upon mankind to celebrate Christ’s nativity in such fashion. In 1644, an Act of Parliament effectively banned the festival and in June 1647, the Long Parliament passed an ordinance confirming the abolition of the feast of Christmas.

But the voices and festive spirits of English men, women and children were not to be so easily silenced. For the nearly two decades that the ban on Christmas was in place, semi-clandestine religious services marking Christ’s nativity continued to be held on 25 December, and people continued to sing in secret. Christmas carols essentially went underground – although some of those rebellious types determined to keep carols alive did so more loudly than others. On 25 December 1656, a a member of parliament in the House of Commons made clear his anger at getting little sleep the previous night because of the noise of their neighbours’ “preparations for this foolish day…” Come the Restoration of the English monarchy in 1660, when legislation between 1642-60 was declared null and void, both the religious and the secular elements of the Twelve Days of Christmas were allowed to be celebrated freely. And not only had the popular Christmas carols of previous eras survived triumphant but interest in them was renewed with passion and exuberance: both the 18th Century and Victorian periods were golden eras in carol-writing, producing many of the treasures that we know and love today – including O Come All Ye Faithful and God Rest Ye, Merry Gentlemen.“

You forgot 2020 when Christmas was cancelled again.

SenecaFallsRedux · 08/12/2022 19:31

but only became a federal holiday in the US in 1870

Almost a century before Scotland.

Cantstandbullshit · 12/12/2022 13:18

To show how serious some take it there’s an annual competition at a suburb near us Naperville in Chicago, and there’s actually a map of houses you can drive by to see their decorations. We plan to give it a go next week.

www.believehouse.com/

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Liorae · 12/12/2022 14:12

Cantstandbullshit · 12/12/2022 13:18

To show how serious some take it there’s an annual competition at a suburb near us Naperville in Chicago, and there’s actually a map of houses you can drive by to see their decorations. We plan to give it a go next week.

www.believehouse.com/

That is pretty common, I know several towns here in Massachusetts that do it. Massachusetts in December really is like a hallmark movie, in a good way.

Notcontent · 12/12/2022 15:15

I am not an expert on the US but I think the fact is that there is a percentage of the population who have very comfortable lives which are similar to that portrayed in mainstream US movies and popular culture - I.e. very large homes, amazing decorations during “holidays” etc. But that’s not the reality for everyone.

Liorae · 12/12/2022 15:19

Notcontent · 12/12/2022 15:15

I am not an expert on the US but I think the fact is that there is a percentage of the population who have very comfortable lives which are similar to that portrayed in mainstream US movies and popular culture - I.e. very large homes, amazing decorations during “holidays” etc. But that’s not the reality for everyone.

That is the case in most countries.

Notcontent · 12/12/2022 15:33

Liorae · 12/12/2022 15:19

That is the case in most countries.

True - but I think American movies are particularly notorious for perpetuating a certain stereotype.

TheIsaacs · 13/12/2022 13:33

mam0918 · 06/12/2022 14:29

What tv are YOU watching that you havent seen this very famous cliche?

Theres litrally LOADS of american films and TV shows where american high school kids are suppose to kill frogs or disect pigs, usually theres one kid complaining that its cruel and being mocked.

And no we dont disect animals in 'high school' here in the UK or even really in further education.

As I said I have a medical degree and have never disected a random animal corpse, as theres zero educational value in it as Im not training to be a butcher.

I have run biopsy and tests etc... on real removed body parts but I have never walked in been given a dead piglet based in formaldehyde or a live frog and chloroform to kill like on the american shows.

Um, we dissected animals in biology classes in year 9 at my school, mid 2000’s, in England. Pig trotters from the butchers, frogs etc. My biology teacher accidentally over inflated a pair of sheep’s lungs and they exploded which was disgusting.

But even in the films they aren’t killing the animals themselves, they just get given a specimen!

TheIsaacs · 13/12/2022 13:34

My American friends generally have trees, wreaths etc but don’t go all out like the hallmark movies. As far as i can see, their Christmas decorations aren’t so different to my UK ones.

They do have a LOT of poinsettia though, which I don’t really know why?

Britinme · 13/12/2022 16:04

Supermarkets are overloaded with them at this time of year, and there are a lot of fake poinsettia around. I think they are essentially thought of as Christmas decorations rather than plants in their own right.

onlylarkin · 13/12/2022 19:24

I have never thought about why we have pointsettas at Christmas time. It has just always been that way. So I looked it up.

We also love Thanksgiving and Christmas cactus (2 different plants names after when they bloom) and amaryllis.

www.swansonsnursery.com/blog/history-of-poinsettias

Morestrangethings · 14/12/2022 05:18

Australians traditionally had Christmas bush, cut and in vases. I have a Christmas bush tree in my backyard which is a beautiful blooming red at the moment. It’s not particularly a pretty tree until it starts to bloom, first white, then red. Do other countries have this?

Poinsettas have become popular over the years here, too.

Coxspurplepippin · 14/12/2022 07:58

Nothing much blooms in the UK at Christmas..... There are things like winter jasmine, but they're a bit subtle, and Holly I suppose. Certainly nothing as pretty as a Christmas bush. We have pots of narcissus and hyacinths if I remember to plant them (failed this year Sad)

DMum is a plant fiend - she used to receive a plant from her neighbours for Christmas every year and the neighbours were always surprised when 1994's poinsettia was still around at Christmas 1995 and the cymbidium was still going strong 3 years later!

Morestrangethings · 14/12/2022 08:21

Thank you. I’m so used to hot Christmas days that I often forget that it’s cold elsewhere at that time of year. I know it’s cold elsewhere obviously, but forget things like plants not growing in the cold.

where I live in Australia we can have pretty cold winters but they are short. Unlike your mum, Coxpurplepippen I’m really bad with plants. But where I’m living now is almost tropical, (climate change has switched things up),and just about anything will grow as long as it’s watered during dry spells.

RausageSoul · 14/12/2022 08:24

We call those hallmark tv movies 'Christmas Shiters' and do a drinking game night of cliches, on the bingo card is 'random red bow on wall'

Coxspurplepippin · 14/12/2022 08:50

Gardening has changed so much in Australia over the last 20-30 years. We lived in Sydney in the 80s/90s and I tried to grow roses in the garden - massive failure, climate too humid and not cold enough in the winter. DFriend has just built house in Sydney and has fully embraced the local flora and her garden looks amazing, and is low maintenance because the plants are in an environment they're suited to so just get on with it.

I remember thinking coastal Queensland must be an amazing place to garden - seemed to me you could just stick any old thing in the ground and it would grow like Jack's beanstalk.

What a wide ranging discussion this has turned into Grin

Britinme · 14/12/2022 10:19

We're in northern New England. The only thing that blooms around here at Christmas is snow. No flowers until maybe end of March or early April.

unname · 14/12/2022 12:12

My Grandmother used to give us all poinsettias on St Nicholas Day. Nice memory.

allfurcoatnoknickers · 14/12/2022 21:27

@TheIsaacs I walked into my office building yesterday and there were giant poinsettias dotted all over the lobby. I was so confused, but apparently they're for the office Christmas party tomorrow to get everyone in the festive spirit.

I think the espresso martinis they'll be serving at 9am (WTF?) Might be more effective for that, but what do I know?

onlylarkin · 15/12/2022 00:52

Keep in mind, if you decide to buy one after reading this, they are poisonous to cats and dogs.

Poinsettias, not espresso martinis. Although, I think those cant be good for them either.

unname · 16/12/2022 21:52

Thought I’d share because I’d love to see other’s decorations! We are pretty minimalist this year but I am happy with how the mantle turned out. Mostly various shaped candles and some old hand-me-down faux berries from my Mom.

We also have a third-hand Christmas prelit tree that was doomed for the trash because many of the lights were out. Took hours upon hours to pull all the lights off and add new ones. DH bought cheap generic ornaments (yes, probably made in China) because we didn’t feel like going through the emotional task of going through our old ornaments. Too many memories to deal with this year. I’ll post a pic but we aren’t done yet.

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Morestrangethings · 16/12/2022 23:32

Oh, looks lovely unname.

AcrossthePond55 · 16/12/2022 23:52

@unname

How how simple and peaceful, yet elegant and beautiful.

When I was a child my mum had a ceramic swan very similar to the one you have so seeing yours gave me a wonderful 'hit' of nostalgia.

SeenYourArse · 17/12/2022 03:16

We do 🙋‍♀️ we have a vacation home in Southwest Florida on a gated community and we are always here for a month every December over Christmas and we and most neighbours go all out! The community hold a competition every year for the best decorated houses etc and a golf cart parade decorated for Christmas, it’s wonderful and our little boys LOVE Christmas here because of all the pageantry ❤️

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