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Find my in-laws' idea of Christmas really depressing

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:18

NC just in case.

So, a bit of background.

Christmas has always been a lovely occasion in my family. I come from a working-class home, the type where family was the most important thing. We never had loads of money and lived in a terraced house on a council estate (although my parents did own it). There were several years growing up when my parents didn't really have the money to buy us gifts, so we got some hand-me-downs or homemade gifts (which, tbh, were pretty amazing - my dad actually made my brothers petrol go-karts out of old lawnmower parts one year), and we were none the wiser, honestly.
Coming from a Catholic family, we focused on the Nativity at home, but family was a huge part of our tradition. Mum had a lovely artificial tree and we weren't allowed to put it up until everyone was all together. We decorated it while singing carols, drinking hot chocolate (mum had a vodka and coke - now that I'm in charge of my own decorations, I understand why), and reminiscing about all the "special" decorations we had (e.g. "great aunt so-and-so bought us this when she went to Eurodisney).
The day itself usually passed in a flurry of excitement. We went to mass in the morning, opened presents, watched whatever Christmas movie was on TV (usually The Muppets Christmas carol), went for a family walk to see all the lights, and then sat down to dinner with my aunt and cousins who always spent at least part of the day with us.
Even now, when my brothers and I are all grown up and out of the house, we still have the same attitude toward Christmas. A huge amount of thought goes into gifts - we don't really care about cost, but it's always clear that we've thought about the recipient. My parents are still massively generous, especially toward charities etc, and have instilled in me that Christmas is a time to put selfishness aside and be as generous as you possibly can - not just with money, but with your time and your love as well. On the years we spend Christmas with them, DH is always amazed by how lovely it is.

That's probably because his family have a different idea of Christmas - and life in general, really. He grew up in a wealthy family. Seven bedroom home, several foreign holidays a year, tuition to pass exams lest he bring the family to shame. In laws are now retired and mention how broke they are every time we see them. They don't behave as though they are - still take regular foreign holidays (3 or 4 per year), MIL always buying new designer handbags, etc.
But when it comes to Christmas, they are really miserly, and it seems they've always been this way. Their only tradition appears to be getting a real Christmas tree, which they then didn't decorate. I gave them a lovely artificial one a few years ago, as they were complaining about the cost of the real one. Went to put it up and they didn't even have lights to put on it. I had to go out and get some. They do use the tree and the lights every year now.
When it comes to gifts - and I don't want to sound grabby - they are shocking. E.g. a couple of years back, DH and I both got soap on a rope. MIL always wants quite specific gifts from us (e.g. a particular designer purse), which we always get because we know it will make her happy. But it almost seems as though she goes out of her way to buy daft gifts that she knows we won't like.
Also, their Christmas day always consists of a long, luxury dinner (TBF they work very hard on this, but we always contribute something significant such as the turkey or ham), followed by an hour-long argument about which board game to play, culminating in SIL throwing a huge tantrum (she is mid-20s and still storms out of a room for attention), everyone else getting told off by MIL for upsetting her, and then everybody sitting down to watch a movie with chocolates, while MIL tells everyone off for their unhealthy diets (she'll be eating the sweets as well, though). We get home late and in a bad mood and DH usually goes straight to bed with a headache.

I'm pregnant with my first this year and I just don't think I can cope with it. Would it be awful to barricade my doors and just spend Christmas with DH and the cat?

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Pebblespony · 20/10/2018 13:27

Its natural to prefer what you came from and tbh, if your house is as good as it sounds, your in-laws will never measure up to it. It's a condition of marriage that you have to suck it up at the in-laws for Christmas every second year. Use the pregnancy, say your tired/sick and sneak off home early? I'm in the same situation this year. Slightly dreading it.

hidinginthenightgarden · 20/10/2018 13:29

We used to alternate and the first year I spent with DHs family I cried. They don't decorate a tree, they just give cash and no presents and sit around watching TV all day.
No anticipation, no excitement at all.
Luckily, by the time it was their second turn, our first DC was a few months old so we went out for a meal and then stayed home and people visited us. Since DS was 1ish we said we are spending xmas day at home. DH family come to ours for lunch and we spend boxing day with my family as they live an hour away and host elderly parents.
For most of the day it is just us and I love it. Gifts are still cash from PIL unless they ask me and I go out and buy the gifts. They turn up for lunch, eat it and then leave within an hour of finishing.
Whilst they are lovely, they just don't celebrate and I was brought up like you, to adore xmas and I do my best every year!

gottachangethename1 · 20/10/2018 13:30

I’ve heard of far worse Christmas plans to be honest. Not sure that anything would match up to your family ideal of what Christmas should be and it’s a bit unfair to be that judgey of others.

Aprilislonggone · 20/10/2018 13:35

Baby on the way is a great reason (excuse) to start your own traditions at home.
No explanation necessary except you dh can tell them you are home at Christmas from now on. Start the tradition of seeing them another festive day.
And do not feel any guilt at all. You are grown up and you get to choose what makes you happy now.

DelphiniumBlue · 20/10/2018 13:40

So it's not actually much different from Christmas at your parents except that the people you're with are not as nice!
If the rubbish presents are an issue, could you,or better still DH, say what you would like? Could you help plan the day so that it works a bit better, e.g. suggest a walk, decide on a board game before hand ( and make sure you know the rules so that you're not all trying out a new game on Xmas day without knowing how to play it? If going to mass important to you, then do it.

It's perfectly ok to say that you will be doing these things, even If you are at someone else's house. And pregnancy is an excellent reason to leave early if they've bored you too much!

0ccamsRazor · 20/10/2018 13:41

I would say fuck it and spend Christmas with your family Op.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:42

@Pebblespony definitely going to try to get away early! May say the dog needs let out, or something.

@hidinginthenightgarden I think we're going to try staying home when the DC is up a bit. MIL gets quite upset on the years we go to my family, but I'll just let her know she's welcome to visit us if she likes.

@gottachangethename1 not gonna lie. Am totally judgy when it comes to their Christmas!! Maybe it isn't fair, but I can't help it. I want magic all around, fairy dust, and glitter, and sparkly lights and a tacky Victorian Christmas scene with artificial snow! 😂

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Kokeshi123 · 20/10/2018 13:43

I would go but just try and keep my visit short and piss off early.

They don't sound awful, just a bit tiresome.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:48

@DelphiniumBlue re: suggesting gift ideas... They usually ask us for a list with a few ideas on it, which they inevitably ignore. I know they don't like to spend much on gifts, so I only put cheap things on it, like paperbacks and things. I've kind of accepted that they just give awful gifts, and I don't expect that to change, but it's not the biggest deal in the world.

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TinklyLittleLaugh · 20/10/2018 13:49

Re the soap on a rope thing, often when you are all wealthy and can buy yourself what you want, gifts within the family become just token or novelty items.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:50

@Kokeshi123 yeah, you're right - tiresome is the word! We get along ok, but don't have an awful lot in common. DH doesn't even have much in common with them - I don't know where they got him from!

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:51

@TinklyLittleLaugh fair point, but doesn't that make them wanting specific things from us a bit weird?

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Fairenuff · 20/10/2018 13:58

You prefer your way, they prefer theirs. Why does that make you right and them wrong?

If I had my way I wouldn't bother with Christmas at all. Seems like 3 months of hand wringing for a lot of people all for the sake of one day.

I'd have a lovely meal, go out for a walk if the weather is good, watch some tv or play a board game with family and give the kids money to buy whatever they want in the sales.

That would be my perfect day.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 14:02

@Fairenuff honestly...I think (and dream) about Christmas all year round. I don't think we have much common ground on this.

I guess it just comes down to it being something that's very very important to me, and much less important to them. Not saying there's anything wrong with that, just makes life a bit awkward.

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Fairenuff · 20/10/2018 14:07

honestly...I think (and dream) about Christmas all year round

That does sound a tad obsessive OP. Maybe it's not them, it's you?

Raspberry10 · 20/10/2018 14:08

YANBU. Draw your line in the sand now. just say you’re tired and having a quiet Christmas at home. My parents sound very much like yours, but they lived three hours away when I was pg and DD was a baby, and the travelling was too much.

However the In Laws are nearby, but the most miserable people on the planet at Christmas. They don’t put a tree up, moan about the cost and ignore all the grandkids when they visit. The pinnacle was MIL and her MIL having a verbal competition about who’d made the cheapest Christmas Cake. No treats, games, or any joy, just moaning about the neighbours and awkward silences. After that delight when I was pg, I refused to go again, we visit Christmas Eve with presents and the do a runner. We created new traditions for our family and decided to sod the rest.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 14:08

@Fairenuff it's definitely me 😂 not really the point though.

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 14:11

@Raspberry10 thank you for understanding!! Christmas Eve visit and then doing a runner sounds like a total delight. Then batten the hatches for the day itself!

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Mishappening · 20/10/2018 14:12

Here is a rule to make right now - never inflict a miserable Christmas on your new child. I went just once to Christmas at my in-laws and promised myself that my children would never have to endure one of these. They didn't share presents - fine by me, no problem - but neither did they celebrate it at all. I knew I wanted some fun family time for my children to remember, so we just did not do it.

Babdoc · 20/10/2018 14:12

How about inviting the ILs to one of your fab family Christmases, so they can see how it’s done properly? Take them along to mass, sing carols with them, show them the Christian meaning of Christmas!
It might just be life changing for them.

Kescilly · 20/10/2018 14:13

Honestly it sounds nice enough, except the presents. I'd definitely suggest specific lists on both sides if you can't do away with gift giving entirely.

Christmas with my in-laws isn't the way I'd do it. But it makes them happy, it makes my husband happy, and it's fine for me. I feel like a bit of a chance and might suggest having them over here next year instead. You don't have to like the same things, you can spend Christmas however you choose.

AdventuringThroughLife · 20/10/2018 14:15

Isnt it just different from what you're used to?

We dont have Victorian scenes with fake snow, or decorations other than on the tree. We will do a board game and a walk as thats our traditions and the gifts themselves are exciting and magical and the different things to eat which we spend time preparing.

For me I wouldnt buy lots of tat to "make magic" but put the money into the good/presents/xmas craft and experiences. I absolutely see all families are different though! My aunt has the snow scenes and the xmas table cloths etc. Others spend tons on xmas pjs and jumpers!

We really are all different. The key is making it work when you marry and have other people to consider.

Stillme1 · 20/10/2018 14:21

Are we related?

My in laws were so like yours. The huge and long meal with luxury food, the lack of connection to what Christmas is about and the SIL (presumably sister in law) who has a tantrum about board games.

I am so glad that I don't have to go through that again (Divorce). I think you have to make changes now that you are pregnant. This year you can use the tired, sick and pregnant, next year you can say too much hassle to move baby and all the kit around. I didn't have the strength to stand up to them but escaped by divorce. Ex did not understand or back me up. You might have to check out how your DH feels about this and how far he would be prepared to go. You said he enjoys Christmas with your family

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 14:26

@Babdoc what a great idea!!

Thanks, everyone. You are all lovely ❤️. Perhaps I am coming across as a bit unreasonable and spoilt with regards to Christmas! We all have our thing, though, don't we? Like, I don't have a fancy car, don't drink, don't have a big TV or anything flashy really. But I do have multiple Christmas trees, special Christmas bedclothes, and a variety of Christmas jumpers and dresses. Which, come to think of it, probably won't fit me this year...

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CantSleepClownsWillEatMe · 20/10/2018 14:27

It sounds a bit flat I suppose, when you compare it to how your own family have always done Christmas.

Some people see Christmas and the lead up as an event to look forward to and others lean more towards "it's just another day with a fancier meal". Neither is wrong necessarily but given you love it and it is only once a year, I don't think you should feel obliged to do the more low key version to please other people. So yes, I think it's perfectly fine to swerve them this year and you have the perfect opportunity now to start your own Christmas traditions.