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Find my in-laws' idea of Christmas really depressing

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 13:18

NC just in case.

So, a bit of background.

Christmas has always been a lovely occasion in my family. I come from a working-class home, the type where family was the most important thing. We never had loads of money and lived in a terraced house on a council estate (although my parents did own it). There were several years growing up when my parents didn't really have the money to buy us gifts, so we got some hand-me-downs or homemade gifts (which, tbh, were pretty amazing - my dad actually made my brothers petrol go-karts out of old lawnmower parts one year), and we were none the wiser, honestly.
Coming from a Catholic family, we focused on the Nativity at home, but family was a huge part of our tradition. Mum had a lovely artificial tree and we weren't allowed to put it up until everyone was all together. We decorated it while singing carols, drinking hot chocolate (mum had a vodka and coke - now that I'm in charge of my own decorations, I understand why), and reminiscing about all the "special" decorations we had (e.g. "great aunt so-and-so bought us this when she went to Eurodisney).
The day itself usually passed in a flurry of excitement. We went to mass in the morning, opened presents, watched whatever Christmas movie was on TV (usually The Muppets Christmas carol), went for a family walk to see all the lights, and then sat down to dinner with my aunt and cousins who always spent at least part of the day with us.
Even now, when my brothers and I are all grown up and out of the house, we still have the same attitude toward Christmas. A huge amount of thought goes into gifts - we don't really care about cost, but it's always clear that we've thought about the recipient. My parents are still massively generous, especially toward charities etc, and have instilled in me that Christmas is a time to put selfishness aside and be as generous as you possibly can - not just with money, but with your time and your love as well. On the years we spend Christmas with them, DH is always amazed by how lovely it is.

That's probably because his family have a different idea of Christmas - and life in general, really. He grew up in a wealthy family. Seven bedroom home, several foreign holidays a year, tuition to pass exams lest he bring the family to shame. In laws are now retired and mention how broke they are every time we see them. They don't behave as though they are - still take regular foreign holidays (3 or 4 per year), MIL always buying new designer handbags, etc.
But when it comes to Christmas, they are really miserly, and it seems they've always been this way. Their only tradition appears to be getting a real Christmas tree, which they then didn't decorate. I gave them a lovely artificial one a few years ago, as they were complaining about the cost of the real one. Went to put it up and they didn't even have lights to put on it. I had to go out and get some. They do use the tree and the lights every year now.
When it comes to gifts - and I don't want to sound grabby - they are shocking. E.g. a couple of years back, DH and I both got soap on a rope. MIL always wants quite specific gifts from us (e.g. a particular designer purse), which we always get because we know it will make her happy. But it almost seems as though she goes out of her way to buy daft gifts that she knows we won't like.
Also, their Christmas day always consists of a long, luxury dinner (TBF they work very hard on this, but we always contribute something significant such as the turkey or ham), followed by an hour-long argument about which board game to play, culminating in SIL throwing a huge tantrum (she is mid-20s and still storms out of a room for attention), everyone else getting told off by MIL for upsetting her, and then everybody sitting down to watch a movie with chocolates, while MIL tells everyone off for their unhealthy diets (she'll be eating the sweets as well, though). We get home late and in a bad mood and DH usually goes straight to bed with a headache.

I'm pregnant with my first this year and I just don't think I can cope with it. Would it be awful to barricade my doors and just spend Christmas with DH and the cat?

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PunkAssMoFo · 20/10/2018 15:40

Same situation here. Once dc’s arrived I decided it wasn’t fair to drag them around over Christmas (especially as mil is very strict about gifts not being opened until after dinner and in a certain order). Mil also has form for dictating who buys which gifts for who.

I decided that as I had a family of my own now, we’d start our own traditions. We alternate between Christmas for everyone at ours (if they wish to come) and a festive break. She still tries (but fails) to take over as she can’t even respect me in my own home.Hmm

Johnnyfinland · 20/10/2018 15:43

You can do whatever you want at Christmas! I’ll never understand this sense of obligation people have to do things they don’t really want to do, but perhaps that’s because I come from a tiny (literally 6 people) family where nobody was close or would give a monkeys if you visited auntie Shiela instead of your in laws (for example). Staying at home sounds like the best plan - invite people to see you instead and maybe visit both families in the days before or after Christmas. Also, some people just aren’t arsed about Christmas! I’m not. Cant stand it. I don’t even have a tree!

Runnynosehunny · 20/10/2018 15:45

I really think now is the perfect time to start doing Christmas at yours. You love it and can really go to town on it. Do it!!!

tempester28 · 20/10/2018 15:50

Stay at home and start your own traditions ahead your baby's arrival. Don't feel guilty about it either!

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 15:51

@bowerbird5 you sound like a kindred (Christmas) spirit!! Can I come to yours instead? 😂

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 15:53

@HoppingPavlova gosh that sounds horrible!!! I bet you wanted to stop at McDonald's on your way home as you must have been starving. Honestly, your in-laws' Christmas sounds so much worse than mine!!

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ny20005 · 20/10/2018 15:57

@Pebblespony I'm not sure I read that marriage t&c's lol

I spent 1 Christmas with in laws & 1 with mine (mine are overseas)

We made the decision when we got married that we wouldn't be able to go to my parents every second year so wouldn't be going to in-laws either.

I don't dislike Christmas at in-laws, just hated coming home to no leftovers.

In-laws came to us the first year & have been invited every year since but have refused

It's all about making your own traditions now

Look at making compromises, maybe pop in for a drink after mass & then go home & make your own dinner

I'd also stop buying what she asks for - do what she does & ignore it & buy something random & see if she gets the hint

Runnynosehunny · 20/10/2018 15:59

Tell her with the baby on the way you've decided just to give token gifts to adults and save the rest for when the baby comes.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 16:00

Ok, I've spoken to DH and we've tentatively agreed that we're not going to alternate after next year. Baby won't be so much of a baby then and it just feels like that'll be the right time to start some new traditions and indoctrinate my kids in the ways of Christmas wonder!

Regarding the gifts, I'm wondering if we could just stop giving and receiving them from ILs altogether when the baby arrives. They really begrudge giving gifts, so I think we could get away with just asking them to buy something for their DGC and maybe getting a small gift to give them from DC. It's difficult when they're directly asking for things, but a general rule should put an end to that.

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Runnynosehunny · 20/10/2018 16:03

How old will the baby be this Christmas? If its tiny or you are very pg, then a short visit seems sensible anyway.

Oblomov18 · 20/10/2018 16:07

Their Christmas sounds ok. What’s wrong with a luxurious lunch, followed by a board game?

The fact that people become rich, by being miserly and not spending any of Their money on anyone else, is hardly a new idea to you? Surely dh told you his parents were like this, not just at Christmas.

And likewise, presumably you’ve seen mil pander to obnoxious self-indulgent sil before?

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 16:08

@Runnynosehunny not born yet, I'm only 12 weeks. Terrible timing for using it as an excuse!!

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Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 16:11

@Oblomov18 board games are fine! It's the arguments I can't stand.

Everyone except DH panders to SIL. It's exhausting, and even moreso on a day when you're trying to be all "peace on Earth and goodwill to all men".

You are right about rich people often being tight, though. I just didn't realise the extent of it until we were married, I suppose.

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WhereIsMyDressingGown · 20/10/2018 16:12

OP, you sound a bit judgey. Their Christmas doesn't sound bad, except maybe the lack of thought in their gifts to you. And it's not nice that your SiL storms out, but a lot of families end up having small arguments at Christmas. Just because your family place such emphasis on an idyllic Christmas, not everyone does. I think you need to accept your DH's family for who they are and enjoy their company. Don't exclude them.

VanGoghsDog · 20/10/2018 16:16

So, they have ONE tradition and you thought you would undermine that and impose your preference?

I like a real tree, anyone who gave me an artificial one would find it shoved up their arse.

But, other than that - we all have different ideas about Christmas, you just have to try to fit in if you go to other people's. Your family could be viewed as a bit over the top, some families prefer not to go big on gifts etc.

If you don't like it, don't go there :)

Jaxhog · 20/10/2018 16:17

We all tend to like what we are used to. Maybe they've never had a Christmas like yours? I agree with Babdoc, invite them over to see what your favourite Christmas is like. You never know, they may like it too.

But I think it's time to start your own lovely tradition!

iamthere123 · 20/10/2018 16:18

For 15 years, until I was born, grandparents on both sides were convinced my parents spent every Christmas with the other family when actually they spent it at home with each other! They would then Boxing Day at one and new year at the other, but Christmas was for them. Can’t you do the same?

Oblomov18 · 20/10/2018 16:20

Agreed. Don’t judge. I like the sound of theirs and also yours. Truth is probably the ideal is a combination of both.

Get dh to stand up to mil and have ‘that conversation’, ie tell her to enjoy your company this year, make it a massive one, because obviously he won’t be coming in future years because he’ll be at home with his own family.

UseditUpandWoreitOut · 20/10/2018 16:21

I'm liking this family more and more. They seem like my kind of people

Me too, I'd prefer their Christmas.

OP there's no such thing as a 'lovely' artificial tree.
I am a self-confessed Christmas Tree snob.

MiggledyHiggins · 20/10/2018 16:23

The baby is the perfect excuse to start having Christmas at home. Was I fuck going to get into alternate Christmases and neither was DP. When our baby was little we set it in stone the second Christmas (too slow off the mark to do it the first year) and now it's lovely. Christmas Eve and Day are ours. The rest of it, we will go anywhere and do anything but especially while DS is still young, I want him to have those memories.

Tinkobell · 20/10/2018 16:23

Meh. maybe you're at that life stage whereby you might like to start defining your own Christmas with all its pros and cons. For all you know OP, your Mother and MIL probably find the whole Christmas thing a bit tedious too. Start doing it your own way and invite others to yours ad hoc.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 16:24

@VanGoghsDog already explained, they were looking for an artificial tree and I saw a nice one and gifted it to them. No resentment on their part, they were very grateful.

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lpchill · 20/10/2018 16:24

Once we had our own home with our cat we didn't go elsewhere for Xmas. We now have a toddler and I said throughout our marriage that once we had kids we will not be carting the child around places and have our own Christmas. Family are always welcome to join our Xmas. (Had all of my family last Xmas) which has worked out great as MIL likes to do Christmas in a certain way 1 present at a time so they are not finished until bedtime. Huge huge meal then your not allowed to play with what you got you have to watch tv.

Christmashuffs · 20/10/2018 16:26

@WhereIsMyDressingGown I am a bit judgey when it comes to Christmas but I still don't think I should have to put up with SIL throwing a tantrum and storming about the place like a bear with a sore head.

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BlancheM · 20/10/2018 16:27

Iamthere your parents are geniuses 😂 amazing

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