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Please help me win the argument I have with DH *every year* about Father Christmas

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HuevosRancheros · 07/11/2013 15:00

So, DH says that FC brings all presents. Even those from family and friends. I am a bit Angry about this, as family and friends get no thanks. (well, they do, from us, of course, but that's not the same imo)

I think that FC brings the stocking and some presents, but that family and friends give presents too.

His argument, and I do get it, is that it doesn't make sense to a 5 year old that FC would bring some presents off the list, but that we and GPs get others. Also, FC leaves the non-stocking presents under the tree. How could family leave them there too? Confused
(I really like coming down on Christmas morning to a tree with presents underneath, when there were none there the night before)
But I want DCs to show appreciation for the presents they get and say thank you, not so much to me and DH, but to others.

So, what does FC get in your house? And how do you explain to your DC why he brings some and you buy others?

I should say, DH is convinced that DD (5) will think about it too much and start to doubt FC's existence. Which would be sad, for us.

I think this is the final year we have the chance to 'change' the FC tradition... DD will question why FC has changed what he does next year!

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ZingWantsCake · 07/11/2013 15:57

Shalli

yes, he does fill the stockings, that's true.
I forgot.

why did I forget?
because it's not fucking true!Angry Angry Angry Angry

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SkullyAndBones · 07/11/2013 15:58

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SoonToBeSix · 07/11/2013 15:59

In our house fc brings stocking and sack presents and family presents go under the tree. The dc get a seperate present from myself and their dad that is meaningful such as a piece of jewellery.

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EyeOfNewtBigtoesOfFrog · 07/11/2013 16:01

Applauds Zing!

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TwoStepsBeyond · 07/11/2013 16:01

I do it the same way you suggest OP, Santa brings stockings and a couple of gifts the DCs really want from their list, and the rest are given by me, XH, aunties etc.

I leave a pile for each child when I go to bed, then Santa puts his gifts down in front of them (all in different wrapping paper of course, complete with a QR code to show a map of our house!) and family bring theirs with them when they arrive.

DCs write thank yous for family gifts (&life I'm feeling charitable, one fore Santa too) so nobody feels resentful. My DB wants his DCs to believe that Santa brings all gifts, so we don't get a thank you and have to hide the bag of gifts when we arrive so they don't see them. All very odd to me.

My DM treated Santa like DHL or something, she bought everything and Santa just delivered it for her! I like her style.

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piratecat · 07/11/2013 16:03

lol it is tiresome as they get older, but every year she does believe i really enjoy it!

We were chatting about FC the other day, i brought it up in order for her to perhaps JUST ASK ME OUTRIGHT if he exists. She didn't bite. So i said well what do you really think about him, her reply 'are you about to tell me something that could ruin my life?' Grin

I said 'no, if you believe then he comes' (wimp)

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piratecat · 07/11/2013 16:04

Soontobesix that's just what my mum did for us and what i do for dd. I wonder if it's different regionally? I was brought up in South Wales and that's what my mum's parents did for her.

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ZingWantsCake · 07/11/2013 16:05

that could RUIN my life

Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

just brilliant pirate!

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GwendolineMaryLacey · 07/11/2013 16:05

We've never really thought about it. Santa brings all the presents in our house. Then family and friends give their own presents. If the DDs did ever ask I'd just say that we give him the money to pay for the presents or some such whitterings. We don't make a huge deal about any of it tbh. They put out the mince pie and carrot, get up in the morning and open the presents. I don't think they, or DD1 especially, give him any more thought than that.

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spicynaknik · 07/11/2013 16:06

In our family Father Christmas fills stockings and brings one or two presents off the list. Family gifts are given as such and proper thank yous given. All Father Christmas items are wrapped in special Father Christmas wrapping paper.

When DC go to bed on Christmas Eve, they put their gifts for family under the tree for the next day, and we say we'll put our gifts for family there too when we go to bed, and that Father Christmas will fill the stockings and put a few gifts under the tree too, when he visits. Because Father Christmas knows you leave presents under the tree!

We encourage DC to give Father Christmas a choice of gifts including the outlandish and make sure it's understood that obviously, all of those won't be forthcoming but FC will bring something that is on the list. Therefore if there are 8 things on the list and 4 are given by friends and family, and 2 by FC, the question of how did people know doesn't come up because not everything on the list/letter was bought/given.

Usually we make relatively modest presents come from Father Christmas - a Lego set or doll or whatever. If we are getting them a bike or scooter or something big, then that will be labelled from us.

I think it is daft to say that all presents come from Father Christmas because it's not long before it becomes obvious that it just isn't true.

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ShoeWhore · 07/11/2013 16:10

OK this is how it works in our house:

All presents on Christmas morning are from Santa. This includes a stocking, some books and 1 main gift.

Other presents are brought by family and friends when we see them, opened in front of them and thanks given. They have nothing to do with Santa.

You get nothing from your parents if you are a child Grin took ds1 8 years to notice that one Grin

No mention of anyone paying Santa either but it pays to remember that Santa doesn't approve of children being too greedy and would never bring something he knew your parents didn't want you to have including a dog ds1 OK??

I love that everyone's stories are different and children never seem to notice!!

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ShoeWhore · 07/11/2013 16:11

Oh and the dcs write to Santa requesting a gift they would especially like although of course Santa may have an even better idea... Grin

We don't do lists, although I do listen out for ideas...

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EyeOfNewtBigtoesOfFrog · 07/11/2013 16:12

DS put me right on the spot. He said: Muuuum, if Santa can fly and deliver everyone's presents he must be magic mustn't he?
Me: Erm, yeees
DS: And real magic doesn't really exist does it?
Me: Erm no.
DS: So is Santa real, or does magic not exist? Which is it?
Me: OK you got me.

We are both so much happier because it was actually really worrying him that it made no sense. Now, he loves spinning a yarn for his little sister and gets at least as much fun out of it all.

I would hate to be trying to carry on the charade for 7/8/9yos.

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TwoStepsBeyond · 07/11/2013 16:12

It's making me feel better that I have on occasion asked a relative to buy something which is then duplicated by FC Blush

Now I can console myself that it added to the realism of by whole charade instead of just showing up my disorganisation!

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HeyJudith · 07/11/2013 16:15

IN our house, FC brings stocking which are left on the end of the bed. Full of stocking filler type presents :)

Downstairs, are presents from family, us (as Mummy and Daddy) and one or two also from FC (slightly bigger ones from the FC list).

This way, the children get the magic that FC has actually been in their rooms to fill their stockings whilst they were asleep, AND the magic that FC has picked some pressies off their list.

Family get credit for their own presents, as do we (don't want the DCs to think we never bought them a present and neither did anyone else in the family!!!!! Hmm

As for "how did FC know which to get off the list" - well that's magic. In the same way that FC delivers ALL the present in ONE night. In the same way that FC knows if you've been good or bad. Etc etc. It's simply Christmas Magic. :)

I'm with you on this. I think your DH should consider that it's nice for your DCs to know you and family have got them something special. It's also nice for children to write thankyou letters to family as it teaches them manners and also it's usually very nice for children to show family the present received and how it works, etc. So your DH is actually denying them some "real" Christmas experience, that of children delighting in sharing and showing presents to the family who sent them) because he is so focused on the FC magic.

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insanityscratching · 07/11/2013 16:22

Father Christmas fills the stocking only here with inexpensive gifts , things that I don't allow (like fake tattoos) or things I have said are a waste of money (trash packs) as well as treats and character socks, pants, nice gloves, a book, cheap dvd.

Everything else is from whoever bought it and parents put that under the tree on Christmas Eve so that it is opened on Christmas Day because Father Christmas said that is how it must be done.

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bellagogosdead · 07/11/2013 16:25

You know what? My little one is 11 now, so I'm going try and get her to have her stocking on the door handle so I don't have to stay up until midnight christmas eve waiting for her to fall asleep, then spend ages trying not to wake her rustling the stocking --whilst pissed- Grin

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bellagogosdead · 07/11/2013 16:26

Ah bollocks

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BornToFolk · 07/11/2013 16:31

Your DH is completely wrong.

In our house, Father Christmas brings a stocking of small-medium sized gifts. Everything else goes under the tree as and when it's ready and is labelled from who it's actually from! I get DS a few larger presents, although I do quite often end up putting stocking presents under the tree if I can't fit them in there!

DS is 6 and has not questioned the logistics of it so far. However, he's pretty bad at writing lists (or a more positive way of looking at it is that he's not very materialistic!) So last year on his list was chocolate, sweeties, socks, and a couple of games. All very easy to put in his stocking and then the presents from me where just things that I thought he would like. I could see how it would get tricky if he was asking for something big but then I'd probably just steer him towards asking FC for the smaller things and surprise him with the big thing on Xmas Day and get all the credit! Grin

Seriously though, I do think it's a bit off that family members don't get a proper thank you for buying gifts.

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/11/2013 16:31

In our house we put presents under the tree as and when they are exchanged with friends/family. The DC know that Auntie Edna bought them a present and its under the tree and they can open it Christmas morning. We also put under the tree a gift from us to each child. again, they know there is a present from us to them under the tree that they cannot open until Christmas morning.

On Christmas eve Santa comes and hangs a stocking on their door, leaves breakfast in their rooms and fills the living room with gifts :D

Tis all very exciting and I cant wait! ho ho ho

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 07/11/2013 16:33

Oh, the whole big gift little gift thing... We tend to give them the expensive but not large gift - like a tablet for example, where as Santa will bring the large items like keyboard players (and everything else!)

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Pachacuti · 07/11/2013 16:35

EyeOfNewt, it never occurred to me that DS would believe past 5 or 6. He's a strictly rational little soul the rest of the time, too. Surely this will be the last year? But then I said that last year too...

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SpockSmashesScissors · 07/11/2013 16:36

Santa brings one/two special presents for everyone and stockings, Santa stuff is wrapped in fancy paper with fancy bows etc.

Everything else on the day is from us. Relatives presents, we exchange in person when we visit them or they us, then they get the pleasure of seeing the gift opened and a thank you, or a photo and note if too far away.

All presents from Santa is just plain rude. I am amazed that family go along with it.

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cathpip · 07/11/2013 16:41

Stocking presents and a joint present for the dc are from Father Christmas, every other present is from a relative.

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GobbolinoCat · 07/11/2013 16:43

Ego


I think FC gets most of the presents in the house under the tree, if other people come along and bring something fine.

I have to say, we are talking about a very short window here for DC to belive in FC is it really that vita for adults, to have the DC bask in adulation and glory for buying amazing gifts....for those few precious years when they believe and they have the whole rest of their entire lifetime of say, 70 + years to get the adulation for the gifts?

Is there any magic that compares to waiting for and having father christmas visit?

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