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HEEELLLP! If I go to A&E will they do anything

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treedelivery · 11/04/2009 23:43

I have help and support so don't warry about me but

OMG!! My dd2 is 11 weeks and has screamed for hours today. This last hour it is like some one is taking a hot poker to her - these are screams of pure agony and panic.

She has fucking colic 'it's only colic she'll grow out of it' - if she were an adult she would be given morphine.

This is too much - has anyone just gone to them and said 'help her' even if it is just a few hours of rest from the screaming?

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foxinsocks · 12/04/2009 21:28

oh god, don't let them try the depressed thing on you. They did that to me and I wanted to bite their heads off.

What you need is SUPPORT and reassurance not blardy medication!

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 21:31

You too?

Why bacause my baby has some wind, bowel and sick stuff going on must I be depressed? Eh?

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foxinsocks · 12/04/2009 21:38

yes, I got that line. When we saw the paediatrician, he asked me why it had taken so long for me to ask for a referral to him. ERR HELLO, that might be because I wasn't taken seriously at first lol.

I also got it when I had debilitating migraines that didn't respond to their usual medication.

First, it was my fault because I must have been taking too much pain medication . Then when stopping the pain medication, strangely enough, didn't make the migraines go away, I was told I must be depressed because I kept coming back when in their mind 'nothing was wrong' as it hadn't responded to Imigran.

I despair.

After my experiences with dd, I wanted to start a charity that supported people with babies with medical conditions like reflux and allergies because they really won't do much till they are older but in the meantime, you have to suffer, they suffer and it does make you miserable. But it's situational, i.e. you are miserable because you can't help your child and no-one is really helping you understand iyswim.

Maybe I will start it up if I ever get 5 minutes!

trixymalixy · 12/04/2009 21:40

Nutramigen/Neocate etc are vile. My bf DS wouldn't touch it.

FWIW when i cut out dairy there was quite a marked improvement very quickly in DS's screaming. I then unfortunately started having soya instead so the screaming started again .

trixymalixy · 12/04/2009 21:40

Nutramigen/Neocate etc are vile. My bf DS wouldn't touch it.

FWIW when i cut out dairy there was quite a marked improvement very quickly in DS's screaming. I then unfortunately started having soya instead so the screaming started again .

CantSleepWontSleep · 12/04/2009 21:41

If you want to print some stuff of to take to your gp, then try this.

ilovemydogandMrObama · 12/04/2009 21:45

They will try and make you responsible. At first they tried to dismiss DS' anaemia as 'diet related' which I refused to accept.

Then, it was due to the fact that he was delivered at 38 weeks because of low amniotic fluid. Oh, and he was being b/f, which was poisoning him.

Either way you look at it, I was responsible: crap placenta, crap cook, and crap milk

I have a theory. Those who can articulate with doctors have the best chance of getting a diagnosis.

SuziSeis · 12/04/2009 21:45

interesting csws

Nanny is lush and ds loves it but ££££

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 21:58

Nanny?

Interesting read cantsleep. Have alresdy referred my gp to mn for ductal thrush symptoms - he said he enjoyed reading all about it but was amazed how everyone hated him and his kind. Bless. I told him not to worry much more at my kind [mw]

I was saying today there realy needs to be an education and research based charity to help practioners and parents foxinsocks. I think the problem is there is no hard fast best management to advise on. Need Richard Barnson or rich other to fund big research into this.

dd has passed wind exactly like the sound of that squirty cream. All excited some amazing bowel thing had occured....small smear. Thats some wind!

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SuziSeis · 12/04/2009 22:08

Nanny

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 22:47

You look just like a welsh fiend of mine. From near Bala - are you related to anyone around there?

Am battling against overstimulation. Our dd1 is very prone and always has been so am fighting this.

If the tap tapping of my mn posting proves overstimulating I've had it!

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PinkTulips · 12/04/2009 22:53

sadly after the GP told me that dd vomiting after every feed was 'just a bit of reflux, nothing to worry about' and didn't offer me any meds or further help i never even brought her to him again except for jabs. when i realised about the wheat at 22 months the PHN (HV) urged me to go to him and get a referral to paeds to rule out coeliacs so i went to him then and told him i needed a referral... luckily he didn't argue and just filled out the forms.

i'll forever regret not being more insistant about him helping her, she was my first so i had no idea how out of the ordinary her screaming, puking and constant misery were... i knew she was a bit more difficult than other babies (when your neighbours make commnents on how much your baby screams you know there's something amiss) but it wasn't til i had ds1, who wasn't a completely easy baby by any means, that i looked back and realised how severe it had all been.

i wish t god she'd been my second or third, or event hat i'd had MN back then,so i could have realised the extent of the problem and done more

foxinsocks is right btw, formula is foul tasting to bf babies but soya based formulas are even more revolting... dd spat it at me when i took her off the cows formula so i went back to exclusive bf-ing.

i don't know for sure which part of the milk affects her but from the reading i've done i think it must be the casein or protein as she doesn't react to lactose in other forms like goats milk but tbh, you'd need a biology or chemistry degree to understand a lot of the literature out there!

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 22:57

I know! In fact we need a charity.

I hadn't realised you were in this hell too, I see you about mn lots, though I don't why I think I would just know you had the colic demon living in your house too!

Am very pleased dd has had the switch flicked and she can rest. Have dd on chest here, so no moving. Just typing and eating [dairy free] cookies.

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misdee · 12/04/2009 23:02

is all quiet atm?

dd4 is still relfuxy colic but nothing compared to how she was a couple of weeks ago.

we went down the infacol route. but also gave her calpol one evening in desperation.

i have also started carrying her more, and she isnt as tense/colicy after being in the sling.

but she cut two bottom teeth, and i can see the top two are starting to come down as well.

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misdee · 12/04/2009 23:05

oh, and suspect dd4 has allergies, but no idea what to, she comes up with urticia around her mouth after breastfeeds.

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 23:10

Hellooo Misdee - I've often wondered how you got on with the hammock? How old is she now?

All quiet at mo - so long as I don't move or speak.

Oh Hedge it must be the 'here we go again' feeling - shall we do a thread? It might be hit and miss - the nature of the beast is we're in colic hell in the evening when we should be mning

We have loads of knowledge to share even if we can't cure the poor mites at least we can keep trying.

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misdee · 12/04/2009 23:11

the hammock gets me about 5hours of peace a night.

she is 5months now. so just 1month left i hope till the screaming stops.

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SuziSeis · 12/04/2009 23:12

treedelivery wow not heard anyone talk about overstimulation apart from in our house

our babies are always prone.... that is why i m pretty obsessive about them getting enough sleep

my sympathies

PinkTulips · 12/04/2009 23:14

misdee, your older girls are atopic too iirc right? vaguely remember discussing it ages ago before we had our youngest lo's.

did all of your atopic kids show symptoms at a young age... ie within the first 6 months to a year? ds2 seems to have no issues so far, no reflux, colic or eczema but due to him having had pneumonia and therefore being high risk of asthma as a result (and being high risk anyway due to genetics) i'm wondering if there's any hope at all he'll avoid atopy. i'm afraid to get my hopes up that being free of it now means he might not develope it.

sorry, sentance structure there is abysmal, that didn't make much sense did it?

EachPAQUESPearMum · 12/04/2009 23:15

Ah tree... you're going to have to go down the dairyfree route after all , I think my dear
Hope you get some sleep tonight.
FWIW- I had 1/2 a glass of milk this morning (well- about 100ml) after 5,6 weeks of no milk.... ds has been howling and had foamy green poos all evening.... I am not impressed.

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treedelivery · 12/04/2009 23:16

Misdee - result!! Fantastic!!

SuziSeis - I hear ya!

Hedgeitch - I'll join you there missus. You coming Misdee?

And all the mammas out there with the colic demon in residence?

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