Has anyone else's child had this

[Cjkd24]

Looking for some advice.
My daughter is 3 in April.
She hardly eats but her weight is rapidly increasing. She doesn't snack she eats minimal at meals. She doesn't like sweet things she will eat fruit if anything.
She currently weights 31.8kg (5 stone) shes put on 14kg (2.2 stone) in a year.
Shes seeing a paediatrician and a paediatric endocrine specialists but yet we still have no answers.
I feel like im at a loose end.
Has anyone got any ideas?

Eating just 100kcals a day (eg. a biscuit) over your TDEE will, over the course of a year, lead to almost a stone of weight gain. How much milk is she drinking in the evening? Two large cups of whole milk is 150kcals.

It may well be that you're just slightly underestimating her intake and overestimating her TDEE. Over time, this is the result.

Your older children, if they're eating the same diet but are more active - walking to school etc. won't have the same problem. Or are they larger than average too?

I hope you get more support and can improve her health soon.

Shes always been on semi skimmed milk, she will have 1 260ml bottle for bed.
The hospital have seen her food diary and have said shes not eating enough. My older child are slim and always have been.

It sounds very difficult OP. And you must feel very judged all the time. But the doctors and tests are really the only way to get to the bottom of it as there are divergent reasons why your daughter may be overweight. I hope you find answers.

Has she been tested for cushings? A family member's child has this and looks exactly like your child in terms of weight and the characteristic 'moon face'. Good luck.

Right? Absolutely vile really to judge a mother like that. I asked for my ears pierced at 3, and can remember being taken and how excited I was — and have never for a moment regretted it.

Im going to ask them as they said before that they ruled it out because of her cortisol but im going to ask them again x

I can’t believe the people saying she’s probably eating too much. She would have to seriously overeat and barely move to gain weight that quickly, and although the food in the example OP gave isn’t the healthiest, it still isn’t enough calories for a growing, active child. It’s irrelevant if you think she should eat more veggies. Unless this child is sneaking food somehow, I think it’s likely she has some kind of overgrowth syndrome. Making the OP feel worse than she already does will not help anyone or anything.

Thank you. I no i dont over feed her thats why i have been pushing to get her seen by docs. There's something wrong i just dont no what and they are taking forever to do anything and her weight is going up weekly. She gets veg and fruit this was just an example as we had been at the hospital most of the day so it was a quick dinner etc. Im used to the judgmental comments etc as this has been going on for years.

So you can’t create energy from nothing.

if she’s eating that little and still gaining weight so rapidly, I would expect her to have no energy. Is she lethargic? Sleepy? Does she nap?

does she behave normally? If you take away the numbers on the scale what are you worried about?

one of the most valuable lessons I learned was weighing children often means clinicians and parents focus on the weight, and not the child. That means clinical signs are missed or masked as everyone focussed on getting the numbers to go up or down.

so as well as the food diary start recording other observations. Energy levels, does she play, milestones. Does she ask for food or do you have to encourage her? How much does she walk? If you take her swimming can she manage? Record hours sleeping, wake, inactivity, activity.

bowel movements, pee. How she seems in herself. Does her breath smell. All the little things.

Even if she has an overgrowth syndrome the energy must come from somewhere.

so if she’s putting on weight with that little food I’d expect to see a very inactive child.

like I said in pp o/p has spoken about weight and food intake, but is anyone looking at the child as a whole? Clinical signs often get missed with weight issues while everyone looks at the numbers, not the child.

She is always on the move she doesn't stop playing, moving around etc. She doesn't sit on electronics she plays like any other 2 yearold

i agree with this. Sadly we are so ignorant about weight issues in people, both adults and children. It’s much easier to blame the parents or the person themselves for overeating. My children ate a ton more than you’ve written down there and none were / are overweight, there must be something else going on. Sorry I have no suggestions but I hope some of the previous suggestions on the thread throw some light on what your beautiful daughter is going through x

So you’re not seeing anything abnormal other than the weight gain?

everything else is just what you’d expect from a rising 3 year old?

are you with her 24/7? Does she go to childcare? Siblings babysit? Grandparents? Dad? Anywhere she could be sneaking food?

I’d be inclined to up her exercise, find some dance classes, gymnastics, swimming, martial arts, anything to increase her purposeful movement. See if that changes anything.

This is one of her dinners she ate a few spoonfuls of boiled rice.
She is the same as the other 6 at this age except she eats alot less. No one babysits, dad is the same as me worried as he'll we all live together kids dont give her food. Im with her 24/7

Thank you x

I disagree with a couple of posters - I don’t think it’s her diet. Fine the sausage roll isn’t healthy but the volume of food is little!!!

That was the only thing we could find in the hospital shop to

Is there any way you can get seen privately? Either by asking family, savings, etc? I know it's not always possible, but if you could get results there you can always bring them back to the NHS as "evidence" and it'll give you the speed you need. Alternatively, in your shoes I'd probably call the surgery every day, put in a complaint, ask for a new GP and make a nuisance of yourself until they get to the bottom of it. You'll likely find some good ideas in related FB groups of people who've been through similar things, they can be a gold mine.

Well done looking out so well for your daughter, you must be so worried x

We are thinking about private. I have been contacting them daily and going to pals about this as the genetics blood test was ment to be taken 14 weeks ago and they told me monday that they hadn't done it the missed it. So had to have more bloods Tuesday. Shes under 2 hospitals and 1 of them hasn't even written her report from 8th December its shocking. Doctors dont seem to care anymore. Her childhood is affected by this as she struggles to do what her 2 cousins who r the same age can do

What do you think the GP is going to do when she’s already under a paediatric endocrinologist? She doesn’t need a letter to expedite an appointment because she’s already been seen and investigations have started.

Making a nuisance of herself at the GP surgery is not going to help. It’s just going to create stress for OP and increase the workload of already over stretched GP. She has already been seen and started investigations with the paediatric endocrinologist. There is clearly something complex going on and that will take time to figure out, not everything is instant. Also, not everything has an answer, no matter how much of a nuisance you make yourself.

That is not a lot of food but in the nicest possible way none of that food is healthy in the slightest.

If that is her typical type of food, she needs a total diet overhaul.

No its not her normal diet. We had been up the hospital all day so grabbed the sausage roll from the hospital shop and the chicken burger was quick when we got back as she wanted bed.

Just ignore idiots on here. Everyone has had days where their kids eat chips and sausage rolls.

I no. I bet they all ate loads of chocolate and crap over Xmas aswell. Which my daughter didnt lol