Parents, what your reasons for not & for vaccinating your children?

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Anyone on here not vaccinate their children?
anyone on here do vaccinate ?
what are your reasons for both ?

did anyone lose trust in the NHS during covid after the vaccine roll out?

just an open chat!

I full believe that children of parents who choose not to vaccinate their children should have to wear signs around their neck saying "UNVACCINATED CHILD".

I do not want your unvaccinated kids around my children. Keep them at home in your own insane little tin hat conspiracy theorist bubble.

When I was a baby, polio still existed in the UK.

Same here. I was one of the first cohort to get the vaccine when it became generally available. I had it at school, my younger siblings at the welfare centre.

A girl in my year at secondary school had had polio. She caught it before the vaccine became available. She was lucky - it only left her wth a wasted leg.

People these days don't know how fortunate they are that diseases like polio, diphtheria, etc can be so easily prevented. So many babies and young children died in the past.

I worked with a man in his 40s who was completely deaf and blind and was severely disabled due to his mother contracting measles while she was pregnant.
I would never risk that happening to my children.

I know these days vaccines are scary, because of the growing number of conspiracy theorists out there and the stories you hear of vaccine injuries, but I think anyone that doesn't vaccinate their children is selfish. They put their own kids at risk and kids who can't have vaccines and I think that's unforgivable.

Is the OP not replying because they have polio or TB........ that's right, you have neither because of vaccinations.....interesting you made an open statement, and never answered your own question, looking for a bun fight?

I didn’t vaccinate my children because they are healthy enough to fight off childhood diseases, and I didn’t want to introduce chemicals into their bodies at such a young age. It didn’t seem natural.

Fortunately after about half a second of considering the hypothesis above, I came to my senses and decided I’d rather the kids avoided the chance of death or disability that comes with measles, polio, tetanus etc and that most of modern medicine doesn’t seem natural - and yet it does a better job than Saxon remedies involving horse wee and leather.

Yes of course. Dd is fully vaccinated because I'm not an irresponsible careless parent who relies on other sensible parents who vaccinated their kids to keep my child safe.

Cough @Italianita cough.

Vaccines absolutely do not cause autism. Your story is extremely biased, and none of that child's doctors have told the parent that their child's autism was caused by vaccination. Because it wasn't.

Your friend made that up because she wants to blame something's for her daughter's autism.

Believe all the bullshit you want, but this has been well studied by experts.

So I'm guessing you're a biologist, or working in the field of vaccines? Or just making a guess?.

Well you can't argue with that level of stupidity. All this "unnatural" and "dangerous chemicals" nonsense. Poor child.

This is exactly what happened to my son 17 years ago now. People are so harsh with throwing the term anti vaxer and conspiracy theories around but most have not seen the true damage vaccines can do to the select few who have reactions to them.

No, her opinion has scientific evidence to support it. Yours does not.

I vaccinated mine because I'm not an idiot.

The only reasons people avoid vaccinating their kids are because:

a) their GP has advised against a specific vaccine, such as with egg allergy sufferers (fine).

b) they're idiots

c) they are so arrogant they think that they can judge the testing and efficacy of vaccines better than people who do it for a living

Nailed it

These are not historical diseases, and many polio survivors are still with us. I see a relative daily who has no use in her legs due to polio. She is in her 50s and has been paralysed for 40 years now.

And as a teacher in London, I see students with TB every year, and am frequently getting sent to hospital for checks myself, as I have been exposed from my tutor group

Decided to refuse the standard vaccinations and follow the schedule I had been subject to when younger (have every record). There are a shockingly huge amount of vaccines given now and the shit in them (eg formaldehyde) is shocking. Then read ‘Dissolving Illusions’ and ‘Turtles all the way down’ to find that the vast majority of vaccines have absolutely no efficacy, plus were not even associated with removal of said diseases. Instead improvements in public health and sanitation and diet were. Vaccine clinical trials are a sham. So decided against vaccines in entirety. Declined HPV for my DD as two girls on our street are impacted post vaccine - one with lupus, one with POTS. Day of vaccination at her school one of the girls ended up being unable to walk. The idea that adverse events are really rare is just absurd. Look at children today with ADHD, autism, allergies, asthma etc through the roof. We’re doing something wrong.

Or, @curious79 you could actually inform yourself properly instead of believing conspiracy theories.
You know about the content and make up of every vaccine? You have tested these ingredients rigorously in lab conditions for years have you?
Open a book - one written by people who actually know something.

I don't actually think the OP is trying to stir up anti-vax nonsense. She has a 4 month old baby, and is probably worried about possible side effects to the standard immunization programme jabs.

Other posters however clearly have an anti-vax agenda.

Interesting how much of the anti-vax rhetoric either begins with "all my children are vaccinated but <insert horror story>" or "have a friend who has a cousin who knows someone at work whose neighbour..."

And even more interesting, given the tiny tiny number of actually proven vaccine damaged people in the country, so many of their acquaintances always find these threads.

Here's a book to read, @curious79 - Vaxxers by Sarah Gilbert and Catherine Green.
They actually worked on a vaccine and explain the ingredients.

We had an almost identical experience with our youngest, EXCEPT it wasn't after vaccinations. He is severely autistic and had a big regression, which is a very common sign of autism. He also lost all his speech, and eye contact, and some physical skills too. It was like the light behind his eyes dimmed and completely switched off over a period of 2 weeks. Absolutely heartbreaking, but not related to any vaccinations. Just a cruel manifestation of autism 💔

@LettersOfTheAlphabet that must have been very shocking and distressing. What a painful thing to experience. 💐

Experience within our family of the life changing damage that can be caused by mumps and measles. Imagine having to explain to a child they are deaf for life which could have been prevented but wasn’t because as a parent you were abit thick and gullible?

Thank you. I find it hard to believe there is not more research/understanding of the causes of regressional autism. Doctors will say the autism was always there, but having seen months of development wiped out over a short period, to my mind it feels more akin to dementia? I really hope that in the future it is better understood and that regression can be reversed 🙏

Fully vaccinated except Covid. I she interested to know how common this is. Everyone I know is completely pro vaccine but none of us got our kids done for Covid. Did all get the first 3 ourselves though as adults.

i do also agree with someone up thread that although rare a tiny minority do get serious side effects to and can really be shouted down.
my mothers cousin going back 50 years or so was left disabled after the whooping cough vaccine. Her father was in the army and cause it was some kind of army related vaccine program the army admitted “responsibly” and the family received some kind of payout