Will history write we have failed children over this time?

[Bewareofisms]

I have just read a BBC article stating that 6 healthy children (in the UK) have died from Covid over the course of the pandemic. Six. We have closed schools and imposed all these "bubble" rules for this, the impact on children's mental health will remain to be seen.
I have an acquaintance working with social services that has personally been involved in dealing with children that have lost their lives from abuse over this period. She, one person, has personally been involved in many more than 6 cases over this time. She hasn't stopped. Vulnerable children have been "lost" due to school closures. The impact of that will far outweigh the deaths from Covid. I wonder if they will ever release the true figures here...

In 100 years time will it be written that we utterly failed children over this pandemic? 😞

@ObviousNameChage and @noblegiraffe

Yes - shocking for years. I have had to try to manipulate systems to get help for children that need support but don't tick enough boxes. Don't even get me started on the forms that are set up for children to not get the support they need...

@EastWestWhosBest

Are you deliberately ignoring that it’s not only children who are in schools?

Even if children had some magical immunity to it and couldn’t spread it then closing schools would still have been the best option, certainly at the start.

Oh and if you remember, many schools had almost no children left attended in the days before lockdown.

No - it's not only children in schools. It's not only sick people in hospitals. It's not only criminals in prisons...

Not only customers in shops

Ok thanks re link

Regardless of adults I don’t want children to die or be negatively impacted so reading that I’m wondering about vaccination for 12 plus and CEV. Although those numbers are very low so the risk has to be low - I think a death is being investigated in US.

JCVI is very transparent so the responsibility is pretty big

Am I the only one who thinks this is a terrible way to make a point?

I just hope none of those 6 children's families read your post OP.

Hospitals cannot close.
Prisons cannot close.
Non essential shops did close.
Schools manage to close for a total of 13 weeks a year. They can close.

The uk has done so badly for many reason. One main one is that contrary to every other country we haven't distanced or masked primary kids.
Now they are not offering them masks and we will have many many with lc so yes history will say we failed the kids

We haven't distanced or really masked secondary kids either, except for a brief few weeks of masks in classrooms between March and May.

@EastWestWhosBest

Hospitals cannot close. Prisons cannot close. Non essential shops did close. Schools manage to close for a total of 13 weeks a year. They can close.

True although we talk about the ethics of vaccinating a group that doesn’t benefit (decision pending)

This could be applied to other harms disproportionate to benefit for the group

Well the government claimed that they did everything they could to keep schools open, but that's a lie isn't it? No money for mitigation measures, and in fact actively discouraging them.

I am going to add a very recent observation. I have a mainly 30+ aged workforce. They have young children. We are a WFH employer. I am in my 50s. They come into the office 2 days per week. For the first time in their careers they see their children. We see them on camera (nobody cares). Covid has been devastating but it if causes a change in work life balance, hoorah for that. I was never there for bedtime. If my child was poorly i could not keep an eye. There may be something good out of this. And learning to cook is a life skill that we took off the curriculum.

@ForeverInADay

Am I the only one who thinks this is a terrible way to make a point?

I just hope none of those 6 children's families read your post OP.

No. You aren't the only one

Vax.

Sorry yes i know secondary haven't been protected either.
But was thinking of how other coubtries had gone down to 4.
The measures of bubbles and tests are not preventative they are slowing it slightly.
There is someone high up who either
Doesnt believe lc is different to cfs
Or doesnt give a crap about anything that isnt death headlines.
This could cripple the heath service in a different was as say a 5yo with lc could need treatment for life and also benefits systems too.
Also worth considering that the horror of lc isnt all - there is no current treatment and any medicines or help with long term heart issues etc- who is to say the nhs will still exist.
Your kid developing say diabetes could be very expensive

@noblegiraffe

Well the government claimed that they did everything they could to keep schools open, but that's a lie isn't it? No money for mitigation measures, and in fact actively discouraging them.

Money talk. Bullshit walks...

By focusing just on the 6 with no underlying conditions your making out the rest are just collateral damage

Money talk. Bullshit walks...

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'Children' were not failed - for some the whole sorry year and a half was okay, for a few it was improvement, for some it was bearable, and for some absolutely awful. And those for whom it was worst were by and large already being failed - as numerous posters have pointed out, the lack of care given to children is shocking and the failure longterm and systemic.

Nursing home residents were just plain failed.

I find the words "narrative " and " mainstream media" so nauseating.

@noblegiraffe

Money talk. Bullshit walks...

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In this case I meant when it comes to putting their money in they will come up with any bullshit to justify their failure to do so. (They = Boris & crew)

@Sirzy

By focusing just on the 6 with no underlying conditions your making out the rest are just collateral damage

You are choosing to interpret that. I was quoting from the article as I pointed out before. Change to "25 under 18's" if you prefer. The same applies re the stats. Stop looking for something that's not there.

There have been an awful lot of people since the start of the pandemic who have been labelling the huge numbers of people dying as ‘having underlying medical conditions’ or being old, thus implying that their deaths are nothing to be concerned about. Why are we putting in restrictions when only X small number of healthy people have died?

Dismissing the deaths of people who are not young and ‘healthy’ has been a particularly distasteful feature of this pandemic.

YANBU. We have utterly failed children and young people, who will also be picking up the bill for this sorry mess.

Tbh given no one alive today, and I mean no one had had previous experience of either managing or living through a pandemic I think we've done okish. Mistakes were inevitable and hindsight is a wondrous thing.

Every part of society has taken its own hit. Children, being the most resilient and with the longest time to recover, will be just fine.

My children are both at Primary school and I have given up a lot. I feel the impact is greater for my Y1 DS compared to my Y4 DD as he had missed so much of his school career.

But ultimately I don't plan on letting Covid define them.

They will understand how well they managed to deal with the pandemic - so much better than the adults.

This will make them stronger. Questions need to be asked and will be asked about how we treated our children. But we should not start at 2020......

I am going off what you posted. You are the one who decided that “normal” children where they ones worth focus