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Can i have an urgent opinion please?? **Trigger Warning - Graphic Images**

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 19:19

My dc is under paed care (I have another thread about auto immune) basically he’s had explosive diarrhoea, mucousy stools and stomach ache since January. He’s had two lot of stool samples and all fine? Had bloods and all ok apart from Ana abnormal and low ferritin. He had those bloods re done last week to check. Paed said primal food intolerance, said 4 weeks dairy free, 4 weeks wheat free (currently half way through) and 4 weeks low fructose and ‘see you in a year’ Hmm

Anyway about 2 weeks ago he starts having blood in his poo/the water. GP not concerned and said probably piles. Today he’s told me he’s being feeling something ‘there’ in his backside, been feeling it a while, didn’t want me to look so I said probably piles don’t worry and if he would feel happy me checking then to let me know. He’s just called me and said it’s happening and let me look. It doesn’t look like piles, I’m petrified it’s some sort of prolapse? He said it happens when he wees, poos and sometimes randomly. I could see whatever it is sort of come out his back side as he was on all fours...... he said when it happened is when the mucous comes out. This is all new to me and I’m really worried. Do I need to take him to gp tonight?? What does a prolapse look like? Could it really be just piles? He isn’t itchy ...

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:19

snake we don’t have walk in centres here. There is a&e, minor injuries or you call 111 if you need a GP out of hours.

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DoomsdayCult · 30/08/2019 20:19

I guess ask what they checked for when they tested his stools? Stool tests are like blood tests, they actually have to tell the labbto check for specific things. Also with giardia it usually takes 3 stool tests to identify 90% of cases as they have high false negative rate.

BendydickCuminsnatch · 30/08/2019 20:19

Surely piles wouldn’t cause blood in the urine? I’d call 111 for sure, can’t think of a downside to that. Good luck!

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:19

I guess as he gets up early I could ring 111 first thing.

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Amazonita · 30/08/2019 20:20

Obviously something is protruding from his anus which shouldn't be. Perhaps due to his on going bowel issues. You need to take immediate advice from 111 and if they say A&E, take him straight away.

Poor lad. It must be distressing for him.

DoomsdayCult · 30/08/2019 20:20

I just think it’s weird that he’s 13 and all of a sudden he’s developed a dietary intolerance.

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:20

ben sorry no not blood in the urine, I mean in the water when he’s had a poo.

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:21

He had food intolerances as a baby and was on medicated milk, that’s all the paediatrician was interested in. That and the fact I don’t eat a lot of wheat or dairy as it upsets my stomach.

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bobstersmum · 30/08/2019 20:23

My son is 5 and from age 3 had no end of stomach problems, alternating with diarrhoea and constipation and vomiting. He was also having lots of mucus in his stools and then blood too. No one was concerned as he was examined each time, but after a solid week of stomach pain and loose stools I took him back again. We were told to cut out dairy. We did and it has resolved it all. He is on omeprazole for acid reflux too. I just wanted to tell our story because its not always serious when you see blood etc, and from what you've said could definitely be piles that you're seeing.

hormonesorDHbeingadick · 30/08/2019 20:24

Dietary intolerance can occur at any time. My Dad has just developed multi intolerances in his 70s. I believe his was brought on by stress.

This is not answering your question but half of children who can’t tolerate dairy also can’t tolerate soya.

villamariavintrapp · 30/08/2019 20:29

It sounds most like piles, but definitely worth seeing gp to get checked out-maybe he's constipated and the diarrhoea is overflow?. I wouldn't go to a and e tonight-you'll be waiting around for hours, and there is no urgent treatment that's going to sort it tonight anyway-they'll suggest you go
to gp most probably.

DoomsdayCult · 30/08/2019 20:30

Poor kid. It’s an embarrassing body part too. I hope you can get some answers and treatment for him.

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:31

Everyone who’s felt his stomach has said he isn’t constipated....

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:32

Exactly doom plus the autism is making it hard on top of that. September will be 9 months of this. That isn’t fair on anyone.

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Whoopstheregomyinsides · 30/08/2019 20:38

You poor thing. I'm glad he's letting you look/ check him at least. Maybe try phoning g tomorrow to get an ooh GP appointment

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ThirstyGhost · 30/08/2019 20:41

When my DD had severe constipation and piles (she's 5) the doctor warned us about a rectal prolapse. I have a leaflet here (NHS) but can't find the link to it online. Here's a link to a BUPA one www.bupa.co.uk/health-information/digestive-gut-health/rectal-prolapse

It never happened to her in the end, but I was worried about it.

HerculePoirotsGreyCells · 30/08/2019 20:43

Many A&Es have a separate paediatric part. I have children with ASD and I do think it would be wise to get him checked. Hope he's ok Thanks

ThirstyGhost · 30/08/2019 20:45

... not from my health board, but NHS at least for info www.uhs.nhs.uk/Media/Controlleddocuments/Patientinformation/Childhealth/Analfissurerectalprolapse-Patientinformation.pdf

ThirstyGhost · 30/08/2019 20:47

Posted too soon. If it is that it's very treatable so not to worry. It's just when you explained the symptoms and how he was feeling it reminded me.

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Ouchmyheadhurts · 30/08/2019 20:49

Reading those links, particularly thirsty’s one to me sounds like a prolapse. I’m going to call 111 as soon as we get up so probably )
6am to try to see a doctor.

If he does have one, how quick will they start moving to stop it?

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ThirstyGhost · 30/08/2019 21:31

When I asked what to do if a prolapse happened for DD (she was already bleeding in her poo from straining and fissures at the time and had been for a long time) I was told that if it happened I would be asked to bring her in as soon as possible for an examination (so I would phone tomorrow as you are doing and I bet they ask you to bring him in tomorrow). Sometimes the doc said it's very like piles in that you can push it gently back in, but he also mentioned an injection as treatment (he kept saying, "similar to treatment for piles" a lot). I don't know what the injection does - someone else might know if they've had treatment for piles. Sometimes he said the child will need a minor operation, but I didn't ask about timescales or anything as it hadn't actually happened to DD yet - he had mentioned it as things to watch out for given her history and I was panicking.

He kept stressing (probably due to the terrified expression on my face) that it's a common thing and easily treatable. Sorry not to be more help. Hopefully someone else will be along with experience of the treatment.

tolerable · 30/08/2019 21:46

hirshprung?????

Orchidflower1 · 30/08/2019 22:54

I think 111 first thing is a sensible plan. If you took him now and procedure would be much tougher if he was stressed.

If you say he gets up at 6am, could you get up earlier say 4.30/ 5.00 and get yourself ready then phone in case they take a while to get back to you. If they are quicker as least you can go first thing and get it sorted. Good luck

Powerplant · 30/08/2019 23:06

Sounds like a prolapse go to your GP