homeopathy treatment on private or nhs

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Hi. Has been a long time since ive posted here. My son 11 has severe eczema and just recently his dermatologist prescribed him 2 months of antibiotics and oral Steriods as a form of treatment. He has had many infections for the past years and Im concern that too many antibiotics and Steriods is harming his body. Id like to know if anyone has any experience with homeopathy treatment for eczema, if so would it be covered by the nhs. We live in the london borough of bexley. Ive been googling and is thinking about taking him to see one. However, I would love to know if there are clinics or hospital which specialised in this field.

The Royal Family have used homeopathy for generations.

So what?

Hi shhh. Ds is going through 1 500g tub of ointment a week on his whole body but no amount of cream or ointment seems to soften his skin but I will continue on doctor's advice. But im also open and willing to try other moisturisers if it helps him. Its try and error but ds likes diprobase ointment best.

OP, I really feel for you. It's desperate to see your kids suffering.

IIRC there was a study in the NHS (possible GOSH?) looking at the efficacy of Chinese herbal medicine (which has active ingredient whereas homeopathy is just water) to treat eczema. They compared about 100 kids being treated by a Chinese herbalist (so bespoke prescriptions) with tablets they made using the herbs most commonly prescribed by Chinese herbalists for eczema. Both groups showed improvement, but the ones getting bespoke treatment showed better improvement. I don't think there were control groups with placebo or medicine so it's hardly a rigorous trial.

I was going to suggest trying it if you're desperate, but having read the other story that the child was actually being given a huge dose of steroids, I'd be wary.

Please be wary of chinese herbalists. They are unregulated and very high doses of steroids have been found in them, enough to cause kidney damage

Thanks for the advice weasley and bruffin. Ds was using chinese herbalist back in september last year simply because from the start of 2014 to november 2014, he'd already took 3 courses of antibiotics.I had to stop the chinese herbs after two months because on December his skin was so badly infected he was admitted to hospital for a week. I haven't gone back to Chinese herbalist since then and the taste was revolting. But if it helps I might consider it again. I'll just have to wait till ds finishes his course of treatment with antibiotics and prenosolone. Still needs 3 more weeks of both.

And I judge the ones who recommend it to others, and so risk someone - especially a child - not getting the proper treatment that might help them

The thing is that allopathic medicine isn't helping this child, is it?

OP, try homeopathy, what have you to lose?

If you have a chronic condition that allopathy cannot cure or even alleviate, it makes sense to look at what other medical practices have to offer. And just, the brilliant thing about homeopathy is that you are not pouring risky toxins into your body, so if it doesn't work you are no worse off.

Shame about your experience with Chinese medicine, the one time I used it it was brilliant, but the doctor was an allopathic doctor who had trained in China in acupuncture and Chinese medicine for two years, so very highly qualified.

You are not pouring anything into your body with homeopathy because there is nothing there but water and sugar
That is the point, it is a total rip off
I need to stay off these threads homeopathy gives me the rage
I judge anyone who uses it as being unable to understand science or research

Oh and it is definitely not a medical practice

I judge anyone who uses it as being unable to understand science or research

And what are your credentials Babylon?

My understanding of scientific principles is that if you see a phenomenon, you wonder why it happened, develop a theory and then test that theory against reality again and if it does not work you start again until you have a theory that is compatible with reality. You are using a reverse process, you have the theory that homeopathy doesn't work, and no amount of people saying that it works for them and/or their friends and family will shift your absolute belief that it does not work.

And merely, I might add, because you do not understand how it works.

We know it doesnt work because when double blind tests are done against a placebo and there is no difference in the outcome .

Have you tried this OP? It helps my eczema (although mine is mild). If you are near the sea I have also heard that thalassotherapy helps with eczema (which basically equates to going in a clean sea).

What have you got to lose? Large amounts of money and your self respect, for a start.

If you think you know how homeopathy works, you dont understand the laws of physics. Substances do not get more powerful the less you use. Water does not have a memory. Shaking water doesnt make it more powerful.

And yet it works...

As for the laws of physics, my brother is a physicist and he uses homeopathy

Atenco your brother using it doesn't mean it works.

As bruffin has said, clinical trial after trial has shown it is no better than placebo. Now the placebo effect can be very, very powerful so people will often experience relief from symptoms. That is why medicine has to go through double blind trials - to show it is more effective than placebo.

Another cream to try is doublebase dayleve (in purple pump, not the ordinary pink version). It's fabulous for my DD's eczema. Not too expensive to but from the chemist (can get a small tube for £5 ish) but it really helps. Still need steroids to clear the raw patches but this is a great moisturiser.

I do sympathise as so much of it is trial and error.

And yet it doesn't. If it did, there would be actual proof. There isn't any. It makes you feel better because you believe it will, end of story.

Physicists can be idiots too.

And merely, I might add, because you do not understand how it works.

Tell us, then. We're all agog to hear your explanation.

"my brother is a physicist and he uses homeopathy"

Sadly, a university education is no guarantee of critical thinking skills.

Ask him how he reconciles what he knows about the behaviour of molecules in a solution with the basic tenet of homeopathy, namely that a solution becomes more potent (stronger, more active) the more it is diluted.

"And yet it works.."

No, it doesn't, actually.

If you manage to prove otherwise, there is a 1 million $ award awaiting you (yet unclaimed).

Check out what James Randi of the Randi Foundation has to say on this subject. He took a supposedly lethal (ha!) dose of homeopathic sleeping pills on stage and then went on to deliver this TED speech about homeopathy, quackery, and fraud.

sciencedigestive.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/my-application-for-job-as-homeopath.html

I wonder how homeopathy idiots square their belief that dilute solutions of toxic chemicals are uniquely powerful with drinking London tap water. Or do they only drink water for 450 quid a litre?

And these

Wow this thread has exploded. I'm back with another link from the Granuiad www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/17/homeopathy-idiots-science-jeremy

Puts it far better than I could. Apart from anything else, the aggressive arrogance of the naysayers is both disrespectful and off putting.

I'm well aware of what solid scientific evidence is. I also n
Know that capitalism and big pharma pour resources into study things that help sell their products / drugs. The spend their dwarves other sources of funding.

I know nothing does nothing