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homeopathy treatment on private or nhs

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forgetandforgive · 15/07/2015 23:07

Hi. Has been a long time since ive posted here. My son 11 has severe eczema and just recently his dermatologist prescribed him 2 months of antibiotics and oral Steriods as a form of treatment. He has had many infections for the past years and Im concern that too many antibiotics and Steriods is harming his body. Id like to know if anyone has any experience with homeopathy treatment for eczema, if so would it be covered by the nhs. We live in the london borough of bexley. Ive been googling and is thinking about taking him to see one. However, I would love to know if there are clinics or hospital which specialised in this field.

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Mrsmorton · 17/07/2015 22:55

Yep, homoeopathy is tantamount to child abuse. Don't go there OP, it's so incredibly unfair on your DC. It is literally water that has had a spell said over it.

Homeopathy is made up medicine. I have eczema, if some wanky shaken up water could cure it, I would have been cured by now, as it is I take sleeping tablets so I can sleep through the itching. This costs the NHS a fair amount, if water could fix it, I'm sure they would be prescribing that.

Metacentric · 17/07/2015 22:56

There is a homeopathic hospital in London.

They shouid cut the budget to 1p a year, and find out whether the claim that dilution makes things more potent works for money.

Mrsmorton · 17/07/2015 23:00

Meta fantastic logic!!

Kennington · 17/07/2015 23:01

disclaer I do work in pharma
The placebo effect is strong but homeopathy just water
Going back to your doc and asking them for allergy advice in case it is something obvious like cat hair
I would stick to orthodox medicine though
But I would say that!

Metacentric · 17/07/2015 23:02

homeopathy is a specific system where minuscule doses of poison

No, that's assuming (as homeopathy's supporters' ludicrous worldview requires) that atoms don't exist. Homeopathic "medicine" contains on average not a single molecule of active substance. That's because it predates the discovery of atoms and molecules, and therefore assumes you can dilute to an arbitrary degree and still have some of the original substance present. Even if the ludicrous idea that dilution makes things more potent were true, homeopathic medicines contain no trace of the original substance.

So they are then reduced to stupid assertions about the "memory of water", and dredging up crazy misreadings of quantum mechanics (the charlatan's favourite) to claim this happens. When asked why, then, London tap water is not a universal elixir, as surely it will have a memory of every substance known to man, they fall back on the mystic property of leather pads and "succussing" or whatever it's called, at which point their idiocy is no longer worth engaging with.

villainousbroodmare · 17/07/2015 23:02

Grin @ Metacentric
I did wonder, Sunshine; I'm a long time gone from the UK and had heard that it was banned, but I know/knew of a few quacks...

I do think OP means the very best for her son and I do hope that he improves.

NoArmaniNoPunani · 17/07/2015 23:03

A baby died a few years ago after her parents tried to treat her eczema with homeopathy instead of medicine: www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/28/homeopathy-baby-death-couple-jailed

SouthWestmom · 17/07/2015 23:13

That link doesn't refer to eczema

Mrsmorton · 17/07/2015 23:18

noeuf in which case it's fine to treat a child with magic water, apologies, please carry on Hmm

SouthWestmom · 17/07/2015 23:23

Nope just correcting the poster who said it did

IamTheWhoreofBabylon · 17/07/2015 23:29

I have been covered head to toe with eczema at times
My dermatologist told me to stop using all prescribed ointments as I had got super sensitive
I used hopes relief cream which was very soothing
Its under control now but I never change what I use, only aqueous to wash with, aveeno as a moisturiser and I stay with the same washing powder

IamTheWhoreofBabylon · 17/07/2015 23:30

Homeopathy is only a viable option if you believe in magic

IsItStupid · 17/07/2015 23:40

forgetandforgive I think others are right in saying perhaps you have confused homeopathy with complementary medicine? Homeopathy is just water and/or sugar pills. Complementary medicine involves using a variety of health care practices alongside standard medical treatment.

butterfly133 · 17/07/2015 23:41

Presume diet has been analysed and all possible allergy testing? I do feel for him, I have suffered badly with it.

Have Salcura cream or aloe Vera been any use?

Homeopathy is nonsense, literally. My sister also tried a Chinese tea, in total desperation and it made it a lot worse. She grew out of hers though.

forgetandforgive · 17/07/2015 23:42

Thank you everyone for your advice. I think bumper have help corrected me. Thanks. I did meant complementary medicine but got confused with homeopathy all along! Yes ive book an appointment for next week with the organic company in oxford street and I think my son will be asked to sit still while they do a body check using I dont know the name but a machine which can analysis his vitamins and toxic levels. Then if needed they will prescribe him with herbs or vitamins depending on my son needs. Sorry for the confusion!

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Metacentric · 17/07/2015 23:57

a machine which can analysis his vitamins and toxic levels

I hope it has flashing lights.

With flashing lights, you will at least get something pretty for your money.

forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 00:01

Hi butterfly ive tried sulcura spray awhile back but it made his skin red. So many products ive tried from e45 to argan oil but the one he uses now is diprobase ointment and dermol 500 for showers. My friend whom also has a son who used to suffer from eczema adviced me to avoid ingredients using petroleum which I know diprobase contains so she introduced me to a product called ultra dry skin from the organic pharmacy which my son uses on his arms only. Thatm seems to cool his itch slighty but very expensive £45 for100ml. It contains evening primrose, rose hips & tamanu. I shall buy some more and try on other parts of his body.

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Metacentric · 18/07/2015 00:08

£45 for100ml

So that's £450 per kilo.

The current New York spot price for sterling silver is $480.01, which is £307.64. It must be pretty fantastic stuff. Look on the bright side: at least you're hoping it's worth its weight in silver, rather than in gold.

You can say one thing about "complementary" medicine: they know a nice earner when they see one. No research, no testing, no quality control, and they can charge more than the price of silver for water with a few herbs in it.

BertrandRussell · 18/07/2015 00:09

"Yes ive book an appointment for next week with the organic company in oxford street and I think my son will be asked to sit still while they do a body check using I dont know the name but a machine which can analysis his vitamins and toxic levels. Then if needed they will prescribe him with herbs or vitamins depending on my son needs. Sorry for the confusion!"

Do you really not feel the need to know more about it than that? Before you let them loose on the most precious thing in your life? Really????????

trixymalixy · 18/07/2015 00:12

Google DR Aron. My friend (who is also a MNetter), has seen an amazing transformation in her DD's eczema since consulting Dr Aron.

LamppostInWinter · 18/07/2015 00:14

Have you tried zinc bandages OP? They've worked wonders for my eczema in the past.

dangerrabbit · 18/07/2015 00:19

My DD1s eczema cleared up when we stopped feeding her stuff she was intolerant to - does your DS have food allergies? Might be worth looking into?

forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 00:21

Centric I almost couldn't help but lol when you said that. And no it hasn't got flashing lights.Grin its called health assesment with quantum/EIS which meant to give a profile on hormonal balance, stress, digestive disorders, body oxyenation, toxicity. Sounded perfect but still undecisive since it will cost £100 for 1 hour session includes consultation. But have just got their book infront of me. They promote internal treatment with back to square 1' homeopathy'herbs and nutrition or topical treatment. They also have a homeopathy dispensary and pharmacists. Quite confused now! Should I or not let my son try this or just go back to how he is?

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BertrandRussell · 18/07/2015 00:34

Forgetandforgive- do they have links to peer reviewed studies? Have you googled them and read what other people say about ti? What do they mean by quantum?

UrethraFranklin1 · 18/07/2015 00:36

I wouldnt bring my child to that appt. Sounds like utter bullshit. You cant analyse vitamin levels with a machine, you need proper blood tests. They are goung to give you some meaningless made up report to justify selling you very expensive woo water and crappy cream that will never work.

I understand the desire to try anything to help your child, I have a dc with a chronic illness. But dont be tempted by this nonsense, its a waste of money and its bad for the child.