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homeopathy treatment on private or nhs

137 replies

forgetandforgive · 15/07/2015 23:07

Hi. Has been a long time since ive posted here. My son 11 has severe eczema and just recently his dermatologist prescribed him 2 months of antibiotics and oral Steriods as a form of treatment. He has had many infections for the past years and Im concern that too many antibiotics and Steriods is harming his body. Id like to know if anyone has any experience with homeopathy treatment for eczema, if so would it be covered by the nhs. We live in the london borough of bexley. Ive been googling and is thinking about taking him to see one. However, I would love to know if there are clinics or hospital which specialised in this field.

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butterfly133 · 18/07/2015 00:40

OP, sorry but that also sounds like hocus pocus. I understand the willingness to try anything but that's partly how I learned.

That cream that is helping, I'm sure there will be a cheaper options with the same ingredients. You could even see if a herbalist can make it up for you.

I just remembered I also used stellaria cream from Neals Yard, that was good.

forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 00:41

Hi lamp. Ds have tried zip zoc stockings for his legs which is the worst part but didnt help.
Danger. He has been tested for food allergies but is clear on everything except hazel nuts but dietician said I could slowly introduce it into his diet because its very mild allergic. He is
fine when he had nutella. Ds is allergic to environmental factors. Dust mites, pollens and grass. Preventions for the
following: bed, pillow and duvets covered with mite proof

protection. Washed all bedding at 60degree with sure care.
Comfi fast top and legging soaked before washing at 60 degrees. Vacuuming his matress and bedroom daily. Dont use any soap or perfume not even fabric softener. Puriton 3 times a day. But will be buying a humidifier soon. Maybe I need to be on
top of wet dusting. Thanks for the site trixy. Do I just type Dr Aron on the search engine. I will look Iook him up later.

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BabyKiwi1 · 18/07/2015 00:48

Please do not take your son to this appointment - it is all hocus pocus nonsense. Taking advantage of desperate people is the lowest of the low. Stick with your dermatologist and save your money.

forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 00:57

Thank butterfly I forgot about neal yards. I will give your cream a try. Maybe I should cancel that appointment and use it to buy creams that might help. Over the years we have got very stressed. My youngest son 9 whom also have eczema used to have it really bad for 7 years. We would wake up every hour with his crying from the scratching but now his skin seemed to have improved alot. Less itchy ond only wakes up 3 times a night. But my 11 yo ds has it the worst which is why I feel emotionally drained snd helpless so I was really hoping for a quick fix. was only feeling desperate because ds crys over his skin most days and I just didnt know how to help him. But thank you everyone for your good advice. Will take everything on board and look at other natural options.

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Metacentric · 18/07/2015 01:56

its called health assesment with quantum/EIS

Anything which claims to be medical which contains the word "quantum" is by definition bullshit. Quantum effects are almost entirely irrelevant to medicine: even MRI scanners and proton beams and so on are operating many orders of magnitude above the quantum scale.

hormonal balance, stress, digestive disorders, body oxyenation, toxicity.

It's bullshit. Toxicity? Bullshit. Body Oxygenation? Unless you're dead, bullshit. These are pseudo-science words to trick the gullible, naive and desperate.

it will cost £100 for 1 hour session

Lucrative bullshit, though.

Metacentric · 18/07/2015 02:00

Those with a taste for absurd bullshit should look at this "Quantum/EIS" nonsense.

www.healthrestore.net/bio-scanner-consultation.html

My favourite is "With an 89% Sensitivity and 84% Specificity, the EIS may deliver repeatable reproducible results." but the whole thing is complete and utter nonsense. OP, you could get the same benefit for your child by burning a hundred quid and sprinkling the ashes on your garden.

forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 02:05

Have googled up dr Aron and he has got loads of good reviews and helped alot of desperate eczema sufferers. Ive put my info down and someone should get back to me. Its a private hospital bit my main concern is the distance because Im not really a confident driver and id love to take ds to see him face face. I feel there Iis light at the end of a tunnel now.

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forgetandforgive · 18/07/2015 02:10

Will listen to your advice centric and cancel next weeks appointment. But no way will I burn £100 and spray it over the garden.

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forago · 18/07/2015 02:27

i know someone with excema who improved massively when they got rid of their curtains and put shutters in every room - also wood floors instead of carpets & I guess this is related to keeping dust levels down, might be worth try?

NoArmaniNoPunani · 18/07/2015 02:56

That link doesn't refer to eczema

This one does though (same couple)

m.smh.com.au/national/parents-guilty-of-manslaughter-over-daughters-eczema-death-20090605-bxvx.html

butterfly133 · 18/07/2015 04:39

Glad you're going to cancel that
If I think of any creams that are the same as the pricey one, I'll post
He might grow out of it....sis and i were left with only a tiny bit by late teens

differentnameforthis · 18/07/2015 04:42

Noeuf
It was indeed eczema

Atenco · 18/07/2015 05:48

Well homeopathy has worked for me and a lot of people I know. OP, find a recommended practitioner and try it. Allopathy isn't working for your son, so try something else.

I don't know why most English speakers are so sure that homeopathy doesn't work, especially as they most likely have never tried it, but here in Mexico it is very well respected.

paxtecum · 18/07/2015 06:22

modern medicine obviously is not helping your DS.

My neighbour's child had terrible excema that did not respond to the potions from the medics. She got it under control by the child wearing a hazel wood necklace and if she doesn't wear it for a few days, it comes back again.
Before you all scream ' placebo' the child was two years old, so would not be placebo effect.

20 years ago people who dressed leg ulcers with good quality honey and used tea tree oil on minor burns were considered lunatics.
Guess what the NHS now use on leg ulcers and burns?

Many people think that anything other than modern medicine has all the answers and anything else must be woo and even the mention of homeopathy causes uproar.

DougaltheCheshireCat's post is really interesting.

Why on earth would anyone not pay £100 to try and get an improvement in your child's health?
Modern medicine has had ELEVEN years to sort out his excema and hasn't succeeded so why not try something else that may help?

RJnomore · 18/07/2015 06:31

Pax I think you're confusing alternative medicines (herbalism for example) with bullshit.

paxtecum · 18/07/2015 06:39

worldofhomeopathy.wordpress.com/2012/07/04/an-interview-with-peter-fisher/

The link is an interesting interview with the Queen's homeopath.
The Royal Family have used homeopathy for generations.

Anyway, op has now cancelled the appointment, which wasn't with a homeopath anyway. What a shame.

totallybewildered · 18/07/2015 06:46

I also think that there is a difference between good research evidence which proves something does not work, areas where there is a lack of good research evidence

On the contrary, there is massive evidence that homeopathy doesn't work.

(see recent Jenette Winterston article on fasting www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jul/11/jeanette-winterson-why-i-fasted-11-days quote from Dr Andreas Michalson 'If I had been studying a new drug and got these results, I would be getting phone calls every day.

utterly bizarre assertion, no you wouldn't you have nothing like the threshold of significance and reproducibility required to have any serious scientist even take a second glance. This claim is so wildly unscientific that you have to ask your self if this person has any scientific understanding what so ever.

It is very easy for critics to say there are not enough studies when we know there is no funding for these studies.

Who knows there is no funding? in what way has the funding in this area been any less than the funding in other areas. This is not true, there has been ample funding, why lie?

totallybewildered · 18/07/2015 06:47

Before you all scream ' placebo' the child was two years old, so would not be placebo effect.

You clearly have no understanding of what the concept of a placebo means.......

ShowMeTheWonder · 18/07/2015 06:50

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totallybewildered · 18/07/2015 06:55

Be very careful with any form of alternative medicine. My neighbour gave her daughter a herbal remedy for persistent eczema. The herbal remedy worked, where traditional medicine had not.

However, the herbal remedy did in fact contain very strong steroids, far stronger than the prescribed medicine, not only was the little girl receiving a dose totally inappropriate for her size and age, it was also being administered in a totally uncontrolled and unrecorded way.

bruffin · 18/07/2015 07:12

I have used neals yard on my exzema and my foot swelled up twice the size
Coconut oil is pretty useless as well. The best moisturizer i have found is flexitil heel magic. Amazing stuff. Been using it for a week and my skin which was extremely dry all over my feet is now soft. The type of exzema i have is dishydrotic exzema which in me is hormonal, so i still get the blisters deep under my skin, but there has been a huge improvement

PageNotFound404 · 18/07/2015 07:18

I don't know why most English speakers are so sure that homeopathy doesn't work, especially as they most likely have never tried it

I can't speak for the entire English-speaking world, but I know it doesn't work because of the wealth of evidence that proves it doesn't work.

I certainly think there are many things in our world that cannot, or we have not yet understood how to, measure and quantify.

Yup, me too. That's the basis of science after all - ask a question about the world, devise a way of testing the outcome. However all the meaningful, measurable, repeatable questions asked about homeopathy have proved categorically that it doesn't work.

I would have more respect for homeopaths if they admitted upfront that what they were selling was the placebo effect, rather than hiding behind pseudo-scientific jargon.

OP, I hope you find something that gives your son relief. Eczema is a miserable condition. My stepdaughter's improved dramatically after a course of Vitamin D light therapy (sorry, I can't remember the proper name for it!) Please don't let your desperation lead you to fall prey to charlatans and shysters though.

I try not to be too judgemental, but I judge otherwise-educated people who persist in believing in homeopathy. And I judge the ones who recommend it to others, and so risk someone - especially a child - not getting the proper treatment that might help them like they're going out of fashion. I get through a pair of judgy pants a week on those people alone.

elcarim · 18/07/2015 07:54

I dont know about homeopathy or excessive eczema but my son had eczema when he was smaller & is still prone to outbreaks now if i stop using his specific body wash & cream. I use Liz Earle orange flower botanical body wash & the same cream with no other soap on him. Detergent i use persil non bio & comfort pure. Again if i change they make him break out.
Hope your son gets some relief soon Smile

mrssmith79 · 18/07/2015 08:01

Homeopathy is a load of old shit. This worked wonders for me - not saying it'll work in your case but it's a damned sight better value than any homeo-snakeoil:
www.purenuffstuff.co.uk/products/Eczema-Cream?cat=71

sashh · 18/07/2015 08:15

My friend whom also has a son who used to suffer from eczema adviced me to avoid ingredients using petroleum

Why the hell are you ignoring the Dr's advice and treatment and then wondering why the treatment isn't working?

Also I don't believe petroleum is in any cream, petroleum jelly certainly is but that is a different substance, just because the name is the same / similar doesn't mean it the same.

eg table salt, it's chemical name is sodium chloride. Sodium is a metal so volatile it reacts with water and chlorine was used in WWI to gas people. They are two substances you would not want in your home. Salt on the other hand is not a problem.

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