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Intimate hygiene in girls

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cleanandfresh · 19/11/2010 23:23

Yeah I know crap title and I apologise in advance for "twee" terms BUT I am genuinely a bit confused about cleaning my little girl's "bits" (and I am calling them bits for brevity's sake rather than getting into labia major and minoria etc...)

So my girl is nearly 3 and she has a bath before bedtime most nights (except Fridays). I know that soap is not a good thing for the intimate regions so I don't get her to soap there but do remind her to "swish her twinkle" (yeah shoot me!) along with swishing her tummy and legs etc.

I have noticed these past few days that she has white, creamy deposits in the folds and around the top of her clitoral hood and wondered whether I should be trying to wash these away. She's been ferreting around this area occasionally and has said "look it's creamy" but it doesn't seem to bother her. The other day she was pretending to be a baby and have her nappy changed so I took the opportunity to get some cotton wool and try to really clean in this area but she really didn't like me doing it and I must admit it didn't feel right.

I guess I worry about thrush but I don't think it is and then I worry about messing about where I should just leave well alone. But then I worry about being too coy and maybe I should be actively encouraging her to "clean" there a bit more. I know on Mumsnet there is a small sector that think any female scent or secretions should be disinfected away and I don't want to fall into that trap - but I do want to keep my daughter healthy and instill a healthy, positive attitude towards her genitalia. I always use the words beautiful and fresh in relation to her body as in my own childhood I was very much given a negative impression of that area of my body.

Mothers of girls please help me out here Smile

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MoonUnitAlpha · 20/11/2010 10:33

Once a boy is older, you can encourage them to pull their own foreskin back to clean under it. A baby's foreskin is quite tight - even attempting to "gently" pull it back can accidentally cause damage - as a boy gets older it separates and can be retracted. It's unnecessary to try to retract a baby's foreskin anyway.

www.netdoctor.co.uk/ate/childrenshealth/200107.html

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JuanManuelFanjo · 20/11/2010 10:58

I clicked on this thread as I have a 10 month old DD and after learning -yes I had to learn how to properly clean her at a nappy change - I'm not sure what I should do as she gets older. Does that make me a man/troll/pervert? FFS

thelibster · 20/11/2010 11:04

DandyLioness as an appropriately qualified medical professional I will, of course, bow to your superior knowledge. I'm just bldy thankful I did no damage! How do some of these HVs get their jobs?! So sorry OP, what DandyLioness said. Blush

MoonUnitAlpha · 20/11/2010 11:09

Safest thing is to let a boy retract his own foreskin - obviously he'll know how much is comfortable and there's no risk of him accidentally circumcising himself!

After hearing some of the breastfeeding/weaning advice HV's dish out, I take their opinions with the same pinch of salt I use for MIL's Grin

Ilythia · 20/11/2010 11:15

FWIW I posted a very similar question to OP's a year or so ago (can't find it) as I was worried DD1 had thrush. I had (at that time) never had thrush so had no clue what I was doing/looking for and as DD1 has a phobia of dr's I figured best to check if it was worth going to see doc or if it was nothing.

I certainly did not get flamed this badly and think those that did start troll hunting should be ashamed of themselves.

If you suspect a troll you report and you do not post on the thread It is not difficult to understand.

ShittyBangBang · 20/11/2010 11:27

OMG at this thread, I can not believe some of the posters on here!

You ought to be bloody ashamed of yourselves.

treedelivery · 20/11/2010 11:48

ooo now you see I have often wondered how to clean my dd [6]. Should I let her do it, help her, how much should one do anyway? Will she be stinky, do young girls even get stinky, or is that a hormone thing for later.

I think the op's questions are understandable. If that makes someone a troll or not, well I have no way of knowing. However, I am not suspicious about the idea of seeking help on this topic.

I never ever use any sls/sle type product, and consider dd even more sensitive. So she uses plain water and I guess we hope that is enough. But as to how deeply and thoroughly one should go...I have no idea and I don't seem to have been given the guidebook to parenting girls that many posters here must have got Confused. Can't really remember what my mum did when I was 6, which I don't think is unusual?

Hth.

thelibster · 20/11/2010 13:00

And sorry again, I should have said missdee NOT OP! This thread seems to have gone a bit "off track" from girls to boys and I got "confuzzled" Confused. Quite usual for me I'm afraid! Grin

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llareggub · 20/11/2010 13:24

Well, I'm one of the wankers from last night. I'm not going to try and justify why I had my Hmm face on as it has all been said already on this thread.

thelibster · 20/11/2010 13:30

OMG! found this missdee please read. I trusted my HV! I'm very, very angry! Angry

treedelivery · 20/11/2010 13:30

Is op around today? Hmm...

cleanandfresh · 20/11/2010 13:35

OK - so I am back. Was busy this morning with my family. Am heartened that some people feel they can advise each other on this thread and I don't feel such a klutz as I can see other women are a bit hesitant over the right approach to take (conflicting advice about soap or no soap). I also have a son and found it a bit easier to find info about cleaning him - bit more standard to find info on the net about the foreskin issue (pull back or leave well alone!)

As I said before, I prefer to be quite anonymous on Mumsnet and find that liberating. I am not a confrontational person in real-life and often find I come up with my witty retorts a few hours later. I too like to Mumsnet later in the evening when I can formulate my answers or even just spend a more concentrated time lurking on interesting threads and not necessarily contributing to them. I have phases when I post and phases when I just lurk. I don't think that's particularly odd or off. I personally am not interested in developing a recognisable Mumsnet presence but enjoy many posts of those people that do.

I think there have been 3 main types of posts on this thread. The most alarming to me being the paedo-troll screamer as in:

"...the OP has a weird turn of phrase...it does not even sound like a woman...far too scientific...phrases lifted out of books. Mother are instinctive and the majority on here agree that the OP is a perve."

The second type is the rather snide, unhelpful, dismissive type that actually might WANT to scream "troll" but are holding back... for now, as in:

"88 posts and all that needs to be said is ' good wash - and pop to drs if you suspect thrush! "

They obviously have very strong self-belief and therefore are mystified that not EVERYONE knows what a "good wash" means and that any further debate or discussion is strange.

That to me winds me up more than the ones who call paedo because at least they are pegging their colours to the mast and might have genuine and sad reasons to be so sensitive to this issue.

The last type of post are the ones from people who have taken the time to post helpful responses and have also communicated their own slight confusion/awkwardness/hesitation regarding the issue:

"you know OP, i do also know what you mean about cleaning a young girl down there/applying sudocreme or whatever feeling peculiar. not because, OBVIOUSLY,it is anything to do with sex, but because i want her to have very clear boundaries and don't want anyone touching her there without her permission etc. but then to whom would she give permission, she's only very wee, doesn't have any adult understanding of what might happen. so then i feel like i'm over-reacting and then get myself embroiled in a torturous convo with her about who exactly is allowed to touch her down there... oh lord, and then you don't know if you just should never have said anything in the first place... it's just a bit of a minefield i think"

Thanks to Aitch for that last example and thanks to theLibster for your advice and support throughout the thread and thanks to the many of you who have also posted useful advice.

I think that I shan't be overzealous in the cleaning and won't use soap unless there is a large build up and if she starts itching like crazy then I will of course be taking her down the Doctors! Good tip about keeping the nails short and glad to read that a certain amount of deposit down there is normal.

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scurryfunge · 20/11/2010 13:55

shineon.....is your plod spider sense working, cos mine was last night? Grin.

thelibster · 20/11/2010 13:58

shineoncrazydiamond Please read. The OP was referring to the first type of "troll screamer" poster when she said "genuine and sads reasons..."

thelibster · 20/11/2010 13:58

*sad

thelibster · 20/11/2010 13:59

Bear @ scurryfunge

scurryfunge · 20/11/2010 14:00

I shall bow out again.

winnybella · 20/11/2010 14:01

he he

I'm tempted to say 'welcome back' but perhaps that would be presumptuous Hmm

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cleanandfresh · 20/11/2010 14:07

Shiney make your mind up - you are the same person that posted:

"cleanandfresh is V similar to WWC... remember all of that?!?!"

That was AFTER your previously mentioned advice of popping her to the doctors. So your defence of "I didn't think you were a troll particularly" sounds a bit feeble.

I also know that you feel very strongly about trolls and have defended your right to shout troll in the past.

Congratulations on your confident parenting skills. I am glad you have no sensitivities to this issue sad or otherwise.

So you think I am pathetically sad and wierd. Fine. Glad you got that off your chest.

Am off to take my DS to a party now so no hmmmmms Hmm "where's the OP now Hmm posts please.

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thelibster · 20/11/2010 14:08

winnybella not presumptuous, just bonkers! Grin I think this thread has been done to death.