"Adult Only" things you'd pay a premium for. ** CHILDFREE SECTION**

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Whether it exists or not, what do you / would you pay more for?

DH and I always pay through the nose to stay in a nice adults only resort when we go away. We won't even entertain staying somewhere with just an adults only section no matter how nice.

I went to London Zoo for Zoo Lates this year and it was adults only with drinks and nice food - worth every penny.

Wishful thinking - I would give my right arm for childfree flights or a truly adults only restaurant.

thread title amended by MNHQ at the OP's request

@Galaxies there are plenty of irritating people in supermarkets. It's not children. I'm mostly annoyed by queue jumpers and thieves in my local store... not by a sleeping baby in a trolly.

I've never seen a kid zoom round in a scooter. If they did security would get involved.

Same with my DM. We were expected to behave and were taken out if we didn’t. Not indulged and let the behaviour carry on.

There were lots of pubs back then which refused to allow children in, very occasionally a games room or a pub garden but that was it. I can see their point now.

Absolutely fucking this. If parents actually parented their children and didn't let them do whatever because 'they're just children', other adults wouldn't be so eager to have childfree spaces.

I dont often report but reported Roberta - how dare you come into the part of mumsnet explicitly titled child free and compare us to racists??

you’ve got the whole other rest of the board to play in! This one tiny part is ours, your cluelessness is off the scale!!

You are the one behaving badly here, by inserting yourself into a discussion not intended to be for you, and telling off the other women on the thread.

I see endless threads here which pop up and infuriate me. I don’t presume to join them to berate the OP for acting like a twat, being a gullible idiot, being a terrible parent etc etc. but people like you do that here, to women who have different reproductive circumstances from yours. Why does that upset you so much? What is it about childless and childfree women that threatens and infuriates you so very much?

If you dislike the fact that some people would prefer to enjoy places without children in them, perhaps a better and more proportionate reaction would be to have a think about how you do your parenting, and whether or not your children might be the ones causing us to feel this way? Or to have some compassion for women who wanted children and can’t, and so having an occasional nice experience without children there gives them some respite from the feelings they have about that?

Same. I really hope it does.

But many people on Mumsnet, not just this thread, have posted about children on scooters in shops. It's always being posted about on facebook. Just Google children on scooters in shops and the top results are Mumsnet and netmums threads. Security don't do anything and elderly and disabled people are scared shopping when this happens and everyone else, whether they're parents are not are irritated by it.

Literally no one has said they're irritated by a baby sleeping in a trolley, you're making things up to try and make the parents, the childfree and the childless people on this thread look like they're nasty but that's not the case.

@readbooksdrinktea who are these parents you talk of? Most of us do our best

You don't know everything... those parents might not have help, single parents, autistic children. People that struggle with their own mental health. Etc.

It's not always just "poor parenting"

Are you proposing that we tell a young, single first time mum that she can't use the local cafe on a Thursday or a swimming pool on a Monday because of her poor parenting

This thread is bonkers

Why so much aggro between those who have and don't have children? Don't we all want to go somewhere without kids sometimes?

For me it's swimming pools. Especially in expensive gyms. Child free hours don't cut because I know (because I have kids) that they all wee in the pool, and I don't want to swim in other people's wee.

Do you have problems with reading comprehension? no-one's talking about banning people because of poor parenting - although I can think of a lot of places that would benefit from that.

This thread is bonkers

Go away then. Funnily enough it was fine until the parents jumped on to tell us how howwid we are.

As well as being a child once. I have also been a reproductively challenged adult that didn't think I would ever have kids. At that time I never even thought about increasing adult only spaces.

If people want kid free time... there are plenty of opportunities. I enjoy cinema in evening. Work out classes. Hairdressers and spas. All mostly kid free either due to company policy/laws or due to timing of the activity.

I have a DC and I'd support most of these child free ideas! I had to get a train recently for nearly 4 hours got on and the woman opposite me gave her two grandchildren a tablet with Blippi on it, full volume no headphones and a massive multi pack of haribo to share. You can imagine how that panned out.

I have no issue with well behaved children but I'm constantly annoyed by families who go into spaces like pubs and don't make their kids behave. I have adult children so I do know what it is like to have children, and mine never were allowed to run around in pubs, talk in the theatre, misbehave in restaurants or any of the other list of gripes here, it's called parenting your child, something that seems to have gone out of fashion!

Luckily our local pub has taken action and enforces an only well behaved children policy who must be seated unless entering the premises or going to the toilets - no locals have complained, the holiday makers however whinge

It wasn't a case of 'letting' these children go in front - they just crowded in front of her wheelchair as if she wasn't there. The adults escorting the group were equally oblivious.

In the 1960s, my husband's mum used to play the piano for charity in a pub, and his dad would go round collecting money. My husband was left outside with crisps, lemonade and a comic, because children were not allowed in pubs back then. He says he was perfectly happy as the crisps, lemonade and comic were a treat for him!

This thread is bizarre. Wanting childfree spaces doesn't make people monsters. And of course there's the reality that probably half or more of the times children are annoying is because they are being poorly.parented but if you can't police parenting then suggesting certain times and places as being "not for children" is a great way to manage it.

I have children, but if I am out for an adult dinner in a nice restaurant at 8pm I absolutely get annoyed if children are there. Doubly so if they are running around causing chaos. Apparently I have drilled this into dd8 as when I collected her last night at 8pm from an all day dress rehearsal for her dance show, she was gobsmacked that I offered to take her to McDonald's. "But Mummy, won't other people think it's inappropriate that a child is in McDonalds this late?" 😀😀😀 my work here is done!

I am always deeply sympathetic to parents on flights but would love a child free option. For me, when travelling without children and to feel less guilty when travelling with kids. I can hand on heart say my children are pretty well behaved on flights but by definition they are more disruptive than most (normal, polite) adults.

I thibk an adult only Disney roundness worse.

As currently if they allow say 20,000 in, kids and families will be a lot of that and go on kiddie rides, leaving more adult stuff for rest of us.

All adults means longer queues!

(Just done all 3 Asia Disney parks and actually come up think of it, didn't see much bad kid behaviour, of course it was mid week in school time so less kids but I still saw lots)

You beat me to it. Thanks. Second all of this.

Adults only flights definitely, and an adults only gym (I used to be a member of the local David Lloyd until the entire weekend was taken over by kid's activities making both pools essentially unusable during the day)

@roberta12345Children are innocent beings

Won't someone think of the children???? Two words - James Bulger. Not all children are innocent beings. I don't want to go down that road as it's irrelevant to the discussion (and obviously not the reason for wanting CF spaces!) but honestly, get over yourself. You bred, woohoo. Top shagging

You don't know everything... those parents might not have help, single parents, autistic children. People that struggle with their own mental health. Etc.

And that sounds rough for them, but this doesn't mean they're entitled to get whatever they want forever more. If a single mum wants to go swimming with her child on a Monday but it's an adult-only session I guess she'll just have to wait till Tuesday... She'll cope.

I find it so odd that people would come on a boards page called "Mumsnet" and then be affronted that anyone who is a "mum" or have a child in general may comment. Regardless of the title.

Funnily enough, you can't really ban anyone from anything can you - much like you can't ban children from flights/zoos etc.

Incidentally I think there are situations where adult only would be great, but it's not financially viable in many cases (flights and zoos) and therefore that's why it doesn't exist!

Flights for example you can make life a lot easier by choosing airlines that are less likely to carry children - flag carriers like BA etc. jet2/TUI/easyJet will always have kids.

Wow

I think lots of you have had almost unbelievably terrible experiences 🤣 most kids are in bed by 8... well the ones that may bother you with tantrums or crying or being on a scooter or playing or listening to iPads without headphones.

Kids are humans too.... sometimes they have off moments and may sometimes tantrum at Tesco. It's a moment in time! Quickly over.

If you can't deal with different moods and noises that come from different humans then the problem is with you I'm afraid.

My child is deaf. She has some behavioural issues too as she easily gets frustrated due to her hearing loss. She also has some drs questioning whether she might be a bit different in terms of possibly being autistic. She can be noisy and she can tantrum in frustration. Is she not welcome in cafes, supermarkets and your posh David Lloyd pools?!

Definitely flights & Eurostar. Some adult only theatre shows would be good. Someone took their 4 year old to see Miss Saigon. He sat next to me bored, fidgeting & nudging me the whole way through.

@laladoodoo "top shagging" ummmm i have pcos, and had trouble actually. Including a rather painful miscarriage that lasted weeks as I tried to pass twins that had died at different times. At one point we thought one baby might make it. But it wasn't meant to be. I eventually had to have surgery to remove them from my body.