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Worst comment you've had as a child free woman

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derekdied · 09/07/2023 18:54

I'll start. Someone I had literally met about fifteen minutes previously. One of her first questions "do you have kids?" Me "no.." her "oh could you just not be bothered with the responsibility?" 😮

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KimberleyClark · 13/11/2023 20:38

A relative of mine lives in a three storey five bedroom Victorian town house with his partner and one child. No one asks them why they have all that space.

CrunchyCarrot · 13/11/2023 21:24

@All2Well "Aren't you scared living here without a man? I'd be scared in a house alone without a man. Sometimes you need a man. You can have my husband whenever you need him, we're worried about you, have already discussed it between usand have agreed you need him."

😂😂😂Did you take her up on her kind offer?

All2Well · 13/11/2023 21:45

@CrunchyCarrot Heck no!

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

JudgeAnderson · 14/11/2023 10:00

People are allowed to like what they like - even if they're out at gigs aged 55 so what? Who exactly are the hurting?

I don' think it's true anyway. My interests in clubbing and binge-drinking have been firmly replaced with DIY and gardening and I didn't even need to have children to achieve this.

GerbilsForever24 · 14/11/2023 10:07

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

I know, I thought this was hilarious on that thread! Didn't comment - what's the point!?

My children are getting older and more independent. I can't WAIT to be back in a position to go out to bars, and gigs and do more spontaneous fun stuff! I'll be 50+ Wink

Catsmere · 14/11/2023 10:17

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

Wonder how they'd cope with knowing this sixty year old childfree (not "without children", MN: childfree) woman has never been to music gigs and can count the number of times I've been to pubs on the fingers of one hand.

Funny how the childfree are simultaneously sad spinsters and immature hedonists, innit?

KStockHERO · 14/11/2023 10:42

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

Where do you draw the line, as in what counts as acceptable adult leisure activities?
Like two pals going for a brew in a garden centre cafe is probably fine by that poster's standards, but going to a pub for a pint probably isn't.
Or perhaps a pint in a pub is okay as long as its early evening and you're under 45. But if you're over 45 and you're out past 9pm, that's an indication of fecklessness.
Or perhaps it's even okay to be over 45, in a pub past 9pm and drinking a pint as long as you only have one.
Or even two pints might be okay.
But if you decide to go out dancing for a couple of hours, you're failing at adulthood.
Or maybe its okay to be over 45, to go for a couple of pints in a pub past 9pm and then go dancing, as long as you're in bed by midnight because the early hours should only be seen by teenagers.

Me and a mate went to McDonald's the other week.
I'm sure that poster would've been absolutely outraged at our failure to be proper adults. Should've gone to a sweaty meat carvery instead. DAMMIT.

LorraineInSpain · 14/11/2023 10:45

What’s wrong with a life revolving around music gigs anyway? My life has always revolved around music, and it’s the same for people I know (admittedly it’s a self-selecting sample of “people who like music”). Some even bring their kids along!

CrunchyCarrot · 14/11/2023 10:49

Well I fail totally! I'm an online gamer at 67!

All2Well · 14/11/2023 10:54

What are we supposed to be doing? Stay at home knitting jumpers to clothe the children and reading The Times? Going to bed at 9pm with a horlicks?

Since when does going to see live music have an expiration date? When should we be barred from bars?

Anyway...guess who's the go to babysitter to allow my parent friends to go out to bars, clubs, gigs etc?

Childless AuntieAll2Well that's who!

And my life is infinitely more exciting now than both when I was a student and my current student's lives (poor kids don't know how to enjoy themselves).

Anyway the last gig I went to had loads of cute toddlers with ear defenders on staying up way past their bed time having a ball there.

I'll be dancing and going to/being part of live music till the day I die, hopefully. Might as well kill me now if you're gonna take that away from me before I even hit 40.

Ugh.

Goodornot · 14/11/2023 10:56

I don't know why adults have such a problem with other adults living their lives the way they want to as long as they're not harming anyone.

My view is the parents are jealous of us as their lives revolve around bed time, school runs and cleaning.

MissMarplesNiece · 14/11/2023 10:58

I've never had an unpleasant comment. People have asked me if I have children and I just say something along the lines of "No, I don't have any children". I can't remember anyone making any further comment about what I've told them.

Flanksteak · 14/11/2023 11:14

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

The 'funny' thing is that in one day on Mumsnet alone (a few days ago) I read four threads about husband's going out and getting so smashed he pissed the bed\on the wife's clothes. Yesterday I read three separate threads about husband's going to strip clubs. Regularly there are threads complaining their husband is out\away\drunk all the time. So maybe some of that upset should be directed towards the people who have children and then try and relive their youth rather than the apparently many childfree people who do it.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 14/11/2023 11:26

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

At Iron Maiden shows, I see three generations of the same families. At festivals, I see parents with all terrain buggies.

There's no age limit on liking live music and parenthood doesn't stop people from attending.

Flanksteak · 14/11/2023 11:35

Also threads on Mumsnet alone, never mind other parenting spaces, are full of threads about annoying children\hating children\dreading playdates\excluding children from birthday parties\dont want my children around my niece\horrible neighbour kids etc. why do people think everyone with kids is tolerant and welcoming and loves kids and everyone who doesn't have kids is one step away from tripping or roasting the next kid they see!

OutsideLookingOut · 14/11/2023 11:40

KimberleyClark · 14/11/2023 09:53

Here’s a quote from the “To think society hates children” thread in AIBU.

I think going by the comments your getting you are right.

People want to stay young and youthful for longer delaying adulthood for as long as possible, so that includes not having or liking children.

Men and women in their 40s and 50s revolving their life around music gigs and bars as if they are still teenagers at university. Adulthood has lost it's way and the attitude towards children reflects that, mostly because it does not match up to the lifestyle that a lot of people are choosing!

what a load of bollocks

Completely agree, was so shocked to see this in the other thread but then I don't feel bad about it. I pity them, imagine thinking like this?

AgeingDoc · 14/11/2023 11:45

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 14/11/2023 11:26

At Iron Maiden shows, I see three generations of the same families. At festivals, I see parents with all terrain buggies.

There's no age limit on liking live music and parenthood doesn't stop people from attending.

Quite. I'm going to see Slash/Myles Kennedy with my teenage son next year. He's perfectly happy to go with me so why is it anyone else's business? There will be loads of people there who are my age and older there and why shouldn't there be? I think it is a combination of snobbery and ageism that provokes negative comments about things like that. I can almost guarantee nobody would raise an eyebrow about the fact that I went to a classical music concert with my other son recently. That's ok, it's what naice middle aged ladies should be doing, not going to those horrid rock concerts or hanging around Blues bars. Sorry to disappoint the pearl clutchers but middle or even old age doesn't magically make you change your interests or stop you wanting to have fun whether you have children or not.

Goodornot · 14/11/2023 11:47

AgeingDoc · 14/11/2023 11:45

Quite. I'm going to see Slash/Myles Kennedy with my teenage son next year. He's perfectly happy to go with me so why is it anyone else's business? There will be loads of people there who are my age and older there and why shouldn't there be? I think it is a combination of snobbery and ageism that provokes negative comments about things like that. I can almost guarantee nobody would raise an eyebrow about the fact that I went to a classical music concert with my other son recently. That's ok, it's what naice middle aged ladies should be doing, not going to those horrid rock concerts or hanging around Blues bars. Sorry to disappoint the pearl clutchers but middle or even old age doesn't magically make you change your interests or stop you wanting to have fun whether you have children or not.

This about those who don't have children

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 14/11/2023 12:13

Wonder how they'd cope with knowing this sixty year old childfree (not "without children", MN: childfree) woman has never been to music gigs and can count the number of times I've been to pubs on the fingers of one hand

Was bored by gigs and discos at uni. Pubs, OTOH....😀

Funny how the childfree are simultaneously sad spinsters and immature hedonists, innit?

You're expecting logical grown up thinking. Don't you know any better? 😄

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 14/11/2023 12:22

AgeingDoc · 14/11/2023 11:45

Quite. I'm going to see Slash/Myles Kennedy with my teenage son next year. He's perfectly happy to go with me so why is it anyone else's business? There will be loads of people there who are my age and older there and why shouldn't there be? I think it is a combination of snobbery and ageism that provokes negative comments about things like that. I can almost guarantee nobody would raise an eyebrow about the fact that I went to a classical music concert with my other son recently. That's ok, it's what naice middle aged ladies should be doing, not going to those horrid rock concerts or hanging around Blues bars. Sorry to disappoint the pearl clutchers but middle or even old age doesn't magically make you change your interests or stop you wanting to have fun whether you have children or not.

My point was that intentional childlessness isn't motivated by a desire to stop going gigging.

EBearhug · 14/11/2023 12:58

I know loads of people my age (50s) who go gigging - we have the money and children are old enough to be left alone (or get the drinks in.)

Possimpible · 14/11/2023 13:38

It truly is quite, quite mad that someone would see this thread title, read the content and still think it's appropriate to chip in with their childcare arrangements or social plans with their adult child (disclaimer - I think we had some self-aware parents earlier in the thread who contributed intelligently to the conversation, I don't mean them).

Anyway, to get back on topic, tbh lifestyle factors have been a large part of my decision making process regarding children. I think lots of people my age are the same (millennials, born early 90s) and wouldn't deny it. That comment was rude though as it implies that prioritising gigs and fun is wrong and just not worthy enough.

KStockHERO · 14/11/2023 14:00

Possimpible · 14/11/2023 13:38

It truly is quite, quite mad that someone would see this thread title, read the content and still think it's appropriate to chip in with their childcare arrangements or social plans with their adult child (disclaimer - I think we had some self-aware parents earlier in the thread who contributed intelligently to the conversation, I don't mean them).

Anyway, to get back on topic, tbh lifestyle factors have been a large part of my decision making process regarding children. I think lots of people my age are the same (millennials, born early 90s) and wouldn't deny it. That comment was rude though as it implies that prioritising gigs and fun is wrong and just not worthy enough.

Absolutely. I get that you can contribute to any and every thread on MN if you like because its an open, public forum.
But it doesn't you should contribute to any and every thread on MN, or that your contribution is remotely welcome or relevant.

FarEast · 14/11/2023 17:01

Well, you should read the pasting that the childless/free are getting in that awful thread about how Britain hates children.

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