Am I missing something here - what are the children whom you are meant to be minding doing while you are on the Internet??

[fivecandles]

Because I would be livid if I was paying you to mind my child and you were Mumsnetting.

Well it can't be this thread can it? You started this thread and you have no evidence that anyone posting on it is childminding at the moment.

If you have reason to believe someone is posting while minding someone else's children, and it makes you cross (which is a valid viewpoint), then post to that person on the thread they are posting on while (you think) they are minding children.

You seem very keen on whipping and discipline. Is there any connection between this and your grievance? I am sensing you feel a need to feel the ridged leather of the bullwhip in your angry palm.

Thanks FAQ - just so that I know

I rarely use the net when I am working (unless I am checking something/research for the children/ordering something for the children etc)

Mind you I also don't work F/T & I have had about 6 weeks off in the last 9 - Boy I wish I was healthy

and if you're a teacher getting, say, £25k plus a year, don't compare yourself to a childminder getting £3 an hour

as I said, the childminders I know do the job as best they can, but given the reality of a house full of kids most of the time some of them do occasionally turn on the tv or go online, to preserve their sanity as much as anything

You appear to be very keen on seeing people disciplined.

fivecandles. When you're teaching your pupils are awake, surely?

Would you be happy with your sleeping child being checked every 15 minutes? Unless the CM sat in the room with the children, I don't see how much safer they could be.

Would you be happy with a CM doing written work related to your child while he/she was asleep?

well maybe I'm just a shit mum, but I would personally be delighted if I found a childminder who does the sort of normal day to day things I do while in charge of my DC. I would want a childminder to create a "home" environment, so not always down on the floor playing "with" them, but sometimes doing a bit of this that or the other while my DC are playing happily on their own.

What about babysitters 5Candles - if you go out in the evening, are they not allowed to watch TV/use the computer etc once your children are in bed??

also if you're a teacher with kids, what childcare do you use?

What about if all childminders agreed to be whipped, say, twice a year, just in case of possible derelictions of duty, inadvertent or otherwise. Would that help?

Teachers get breaks also-just to point that out! Oh and a lovely short day too! Just a thought

Think you're missing the point flowery. THere are people ON THIS THREAD who are admitting Mumsnetting whilst childminding and justifying it. I started the thread because I realized (for the first time) with horror that this is common place because of comments all over threads in this section of the site.

asif I think it is reasonable to expect that if someone is being paid to look after kids then they are doing just that and not spending their time (which they are being paid for) surfing the net. At best this is irresponsible and unprofessional. In a job they'd be disciplined as I would. The fact that it's considered acceptable makes me very, very concerned about childminders. I could never trust my kids in their care if I would be always be worried that they'd be surfing the net instead of looking after my kids.

hully - I was thinking along the lines of supergluing the children to the childminders at the beginning of every session, and cutting off the electricity supply to their houses.

That'll learn 'em.

HC - I still think there is a place for the bullwhip. I hear the call of the crack of leather.

'and if you're a teacher getting, say, £25k plus a year, don't compare yourself to a childminder getting £3 an hour'

I think this attitude is pretty shocking. What's how much you get paid got to do with it? So now you're excusing the fact that some people who are paid to look after kids are actually on the Net because they're badly paid??? Oh my God. If you don't the money get another job but don't do the most important job of all - looking after kids - badly.

see, now you're getting into the idea of discipline too, hg.

Not relevant really but when I went to my Dr's this week, he had been browsing for new cars and had left the web page on his screen. He was very when I said "Don't get a renault they're crap"!

I suspect ds2's sore testicle was the high light of a very dull morning

well since I started posting on this thread a little while ago I have

Changed DS3's nappy and put his PJ's on
Listenend to DS1 read
Listened to DS2 count to 100 ~(well he's still getting there - he does it rather slowly )
Had a coffee
And had DS3 on my knee "helping" me write my posts

And now I'd better go for a few minutes as DS1 has just put DS3's bottle of milk next to me and DS3 is sitting on the sofa looking little pissed off that it's not in his mouth yet

I am allowed to go to the loo?

I'm not missing the point. You couldn't know when starting the thread whether anyone would come on here saying that, but you were clearly already cross about it, presumably from other threads. You are now cross with people on this thread as well, fine.

If you see comments 'all over threads' which show that people are posting while minding, challenge those people rather than starting a vague general thread asking what everyone's mindees are doing, at a time when most people on here won't be minding anyway.

Without reading it back, I think most people who have posted on this thread that they MN while minding do so when mindees are asleep, which I personally think is fine.

lol CT