How would you feel if you knew a CM smacked a charge?

[warmsummersday]

This has happened on 2 occasions. Not going to go into detail but what would you do?

Tell the parents, without a doubt. If it was my child I would remove them immediately.

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wot scanner said

FIRED !!!!! if it were my bairn

and tell the parents if it was someone else's

Yup, I would take my child away and tell the other parents. I might also make a complaint to OFSTED.

I'd speak to the childminder, tell her you know she's done it and it's totally unacceptable
Not sure if I'd be so quick to report them but it would depend on what you mean by a smack - a tap on the hand of a toddler - although unacceptable, is not as bad as a whack across the legs or bottom of a child IMO

If you have seen it yourself then what everyone else has said.

remove child, immeadiately
tell other parents using the cm (& probably every other parent I met
probably report to ofsted

If you report them it will go on their inspection report for all to see

Potential clients should know whether their CM is a smacker who can't conduct herself within the remit of her profession, don't you think?

It's difficult for me though as this person is a family member . It happened years ago, obviously not the same child and then today when I was visiting.

As a childminder smacking is a definate NO! If she is registered take down in writing what happened and report it with who she is registed with which should be with her references. If she is not registered or you know her personally you need to remove the children from her care, paid or not paid. These are your children and if you do not want them to be diceplined in this mannor, do not leave them in this persons care. If there are any marks this is abuse, it may sound over the top but your kids are most important, not the nannies or CM's feelings. Good luck!

Aha, I see.
If it happened in front of me (assuming I wanted to stay friends with family member), I would talk about the law on smacking/what would happen if those parents found out.
I don't think I could, personally, keep quiet in that situation.

If it had happened years ago then I would say let it go - but today, in front of you No way. It's a horrible thing for you to deal with but you have to think of child protection. If she is prepared to smack in front of you what goes on when you aren't there?

I can't think of how you could report it without her knowing though

If I was the parent, I'd withdraw my child and report the CM to Ofsted
If it was not my child and I did not witness the smacking (ie my child told me about it), I'd warn the parent of the child concerned so they could decide what to do, and probably start looking elsewhere before my own child got a whack
If the CM was a family member I'd have to take it up with them I think, especially if it wasn't the first time. Oh dear

I know you don't want to go into detail but is this a pre-verbal child ie. One who can't tell mum or dad what is happening to them when with the CM?

KeepItPrivate- Why the at it going on an inspection report for all to see?

Thanks for your help.

I meant the CM is a family member of mine (eg my mother!) so it's very hard for me.

It happened years ago, she smacked a child for running off infront of her friends and me, I was shocked although doesn't suprise me and told her it was wrong.

then today her charge hit my baby ( I was up in the loo at the time) and she told me when I got down she smacked the charge. I didn't know what to do. I told her it was wrong.

My exCM looked after her grandaughter and would smack her across the legs. I really didn't know whether to report it though I was confident she hadn't smacked DS. I got a new CM at the first opportunity. I didn't report it though because the child was her grandaughter.

I would feel that she wasn't fit to be a CM tbh.

It's not hard not smacking someone else's kids, is it?

So you are asking if you should report your own mother, for smacking a child in her care... is that right?

If it wasn't a family member, would you report them?

Because someone reported me for smacking a child and I hadn't done so.
Ofsted visited me to take a statement and I was able to prove I hadn't been at the place where the person reported me said I had been. They had said I had smacked a 4 year old girl (all of my mindees are boys under 2 and a half)
The inspector said she had asked around about me including parents and my network co ordinator and they all said they couldn't believe it was true as I had been in childminding for such a long time with no complaints and was well known locally.
Dispite there being no other evidence other than this person, it still went on my next inspection report
On getting our solicitor involved, it turned out that the person responsible was another childminder who had made the whole thing up as revenge because someone had reported her for misuse of a mobility car and she thought it was me!!!
I realise this is quite different because the OP actually witnessed it happen but it still starts alarm bells ringing for me whenever the subject comes up.
I hope the child in question is old enough to tell his/her parents so that the OP isn't in this situation any longer

Just wanted some advice on the matter really. Im in a difficult situation as don't want to report her but I know it's wrong. If it wasn't a family member then yes I would be more entiltled to report. Do yuo understand where im coming from though?

good message and example the cm is sending out - dont smack but its fine for her(cm) to smack

i understand you dont want to involve ofsted as the cm is your mum but you do need to tell her that her beahaviour is not acceptable (god i sound like supernanny)

and think you really need to tell parents, if need be phone them up and leave an anom message just saying that you saw their child being smacked - though tech you didnt, you were TOLD about it - was the smacker crying /upset when you came down?

yes warmsummersday, of course but if it was my mother, I would still threaten to report her for two reasons:
It might make her rethink her behaviour mangement stratagies and
to avoid her abusing any other children (including your own DC)

i would threaten to report her and see what she said.