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Nanny - are my expectations too high?

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Tyletylertyler · 14/09/2023 21:27

I'm employing a nanny for 21 hours a week. I'm not sure if my expectations of her are too high and I'd appreciate some opinions. I didn't go through the agency route and actually the children already knew her before she became our nanny.

My children are 6 and 4. The 4 year old likes her though I wouldn't say they are especially close after six months but the 6 year old doesn't seem to get on with her much at all. She seems to have no respect for nanny and I don't think nanny is very good with disciplining her - she can be difficult sometimes but she's always been good at nursery, at school and at after school club. I have overheard nanny talking to them sometimes and the discipline always sounds quite half hearted (almost a plea rather than any real boundaries / control).

The main issue I have with her is that she seems to lack initiative and is quite careless about things. Every time they do a messy activity there will be a new stain on the carpet (paint, slime, etc). She scratches all my non stick pans by using metal utensils in them even though I've asked her not to and put a pot of wooden spoons next to the hob. She just dumps all the kids stuff back in whatever box so their toys are never nicely put away and she'll put pens and even paints away without lids on. Shes not doing it on purpose i don't think, she just doesn't notice these things. It's hard to put my finger on exactly what I feel isn't working but I think it is a lack of initiative / common sense. If I give her any feedback she gets quite defensive and I don't feel like things don't change enough.

Another example is that I have to remind her repeatedly to meal plan, I asked her to let me know in advance what she needs for meals to cook them but the week rolls around and she hasn't done it - in fact she never has. I come home and my heart sinks because the kids have often eaten no dinner (because they don't like what she has cooked) yet they will be down from the table and playing, there'll be a new stain on the carpet, the toys are all chucked in random places and there will be some mess in the kitchen. She's always 5 minutes late. It's all little stuff but it's building to a point where I feel like she's just not a good fit. She's quite young still and i feel like she requires lots of input from me.

She is my first nanny and I am worried I am just being way too fussy and need to relax a bit. I don't know how much time I should give this.

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Hotsaucegal · 18/09/2023 10:54

i think everyone is getting a bit hung up on the salary aspect of this discussion (in part because I brought it up). My intention was never to shame you for the rate you pay your nanny. My suggestion was to replace her, and when looking for a new candidate consider paying a little more. The people who are “attacking” you might be ex-nannies or nannies (like myself) that have all too much experience being lowballed by employers. “Market rates” are helpful but they don’t always reflect what you should be paying individual. These thing depend on such a wide variety of factors including the duties you include , the number of children, the age of the children, the hours you can offer, the experience of the nanny, live-in/live-out situation. Your expectations and the role you describe places you at the higher end of the scale compared to someone with say school aged children and no cooking. Its actually refreshing as a childcare provider to hear people sticking up for our pay and people recognising that a skilled and caring nanny deserves to be remunerated well.

NurseryNurse10 · 18/09/2023 12:58

Tough one really. As a past nanny though, you do need to ensure your kids are showing her respect whilst she is with you all, even if you are not thinking positively about her at present.
I worked with 2 school aged girls and they got away with being so disrespectful and rude to me. I started to dread going in. Mum always had an excuse for them such as they were tired or had a sore throat which is why they were ignoring me. Crazy.
Good nanny relationships start with respect, trust and good communication.

Tyletylertyler · 18/09/2023 15:44

Thank you - that's a good point and I think for various reasons this all did get started off on the wrong foot and the relationship has just not improved since then with the children. I'm worried that this aspect won't change and it is just how my oldest is but she has bonded with lots of other childcare workers so I think I just need to give that a chance.

And that's good to know that I should be expecting to pay at the more top end of the market. That's £15 gross where I am according to an agency I'm now speaking to, which is what I was expecting. Feeling hopeful now that the next time around we're going to find someone who really gels with the whole family.

Thanks again.

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Mercibuckets · 20/09/2023 13:37

For what it’s worth I pay my current nanny (after school only) £13 ph in London. She is self employed as she has another role as a creative. She’s a fantastic fit for us and were all v happy with the arrangement and as I said before there are only ever v occasional issues.

Green777 · 31/10/2023 14:27

Meal planning and cooking proper meals hasn’t been part of what our nanny did, unless she’s given extra time to do those tasks. How will she find time to cook looking after two children? Unless it’s a very simple bowl of pasta or sandwich, YABU.

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/10/2023 14:32

How does a mum managed to cook for 2/3/4 children

A good professional organised nanny will easily be able to cook a healthy meal and do childcare

momtoboys · 31/10/2023 14:32

Sorry if I missed this information - how old is the nanny?

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