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Advice needed family childcare nightmare

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RedDragon26 · 22/09/2022 13:22

I really need some advice on our current childcare arrangement as it's beginning to cause my partner and I a huge amount of stress. This is a really sensitive topic so please no judgement.

I'm a FTM with a beautiful 19 month old DS. I am also 3 months pregnant with our second (and really feeling the first trimester fatigue big time). I took 12 months of maternity leave and alongside annual leave, I did the full-time care of my son until he was 15 months old. I appreciate that this makes me incredibly lucky and I cherished the time with him. Even though this was a massive financial hit for us we worked out that paying for childcare would have been more expensive and so to make ends meet I worked privately on the evenings and weekends whilst my partner worked full-time during the day. It was tough, but we survived....just!

When I had to go back to work part-time a few months ago we made an agreement that my son would go to one of his grandmas every other week. So my mum and my MIL are effectively doing 1 day each every 2 weeks. (My partner and I both work condensed hours to cover the other days). My mother lives 5 hours away from us, and my MIL lives a 10 mins drive away. I was worried that it was a lot of effort for my mother to take on but both grandmas were happy with the arrangement and keen to be involved so we're trying to make it work. We arranged to reimburse my mother for her train travel. My son loves both of his grandmas and they're great with him. We've worked really hard to build positive relationships with the family which is why this situation is so hard.

Here comes the difficult part, in the past 4 months I've had to ask my mother to cover my MIL's day with my son 4 TIMES!!!! Roughly, once a month, even though she's only supposed to have him twice a month. This isn't because of any family emergency or sudden change in schedule, but because she has been on holiday abroad.... 4 times in 4 months. She has just informed us that she has another 2 booked before Christmas as well as weddings abroad that will need covering. I'm really struggling to not feel resentful about this, and please believe me when I say I don't begrudge her the breaks or her social life at all. This is her decision and she is entitled to enjoy herself, however, I feel extremely protective of my mother. My mother is a widow who's travelling extremely long distances in her late 60s and is also a full-time carer for my sibling with special needs. I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of. When we've spoken to my MIL about this, she expresses how much she loves looking after my son, doesn't want my mother having to do more than her share, and wants the arrangement to continue however I'm feeling sceptical about how motivated she really is given the holidays always seem to fall on weeks she's agreed to look after my son. It's left me in a really awkward position as I have to work but I have no one else I can ask to help apart from my mother who lives so far away. I've even started staying down with my mum for a week (when I can work from home) with my son so that I can ease the travelling my mother has to do. My partner is feeling increasingly frustrated with his family and it's starting to effect their relationship which is so upsetting. It's also effecting ours because we've got no choice but to spend so much time apart. The best case scenario would be that we could get my son into childcare and not have to rely on family but unfortunately, we can't afford childcare in our area and I can't afford to give up my job, especially now that I'm pregnant again and need the maternity pay.

We're now considering moving closer to my mother (which is a significantly cheaper area) and putting my son into nursery there before the new baby comes. However, my partner is worried that his mother will see this as us being ungrateful (which we're certainly not) and choosing one grandma over another even though the point of the move would be so be don't have to rely on either on them for childcare. I'm really concerned that we need to resolve something before our second comes along. Has anyone been in a similar situation and it worked out? Im struggling to think of what other options we have at this point.

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Rowen32 · 22/09/2022 14:20

Can you get a childminder in your area? Maybe a retired lady or young mother with her own kids?

Apart from that move, worrying about your MIL's feelings has to stop..she's making her own choices, you have to too..

Inklingpot · 22/09/2022 14:46

It’s madness to have your mother doing constant 10 hour round trips by train to look after your kids. Even allowing for you paying the fares, it’s completely unsustainable. I think you either need to find alternative childcare and leave both mother and Mil out of it completely.

If moving closer to her is an option for reasons other than childcare then go for it but I wouldn’t do it on the basis that she can look after the kids because when she can no longer do it, it will cause resentment.

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

TheFormidableMrsC · 22/09/2022 14:52

You need to pay for childcare. It's completely unreasonable for your mum to do that. Visiting for the joy of it is one thing, but this is madness.

downwiththebees · 22/09/2022 14:54

Surely the cost of a day at nursery (we pay £50) would be considerably cheaper than a 10hour train trip?!

Teadrinkingmumofone · 22/09/2022 14:55

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

Agree. It's not your MIL taking advantage of your mum, it's you, OP. You could sort out another plan on the days tour MIL can't do without involving your mum?
This situation does not seem like it will last!

Hugasauras · 22/09/2022 14:57

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

Yes, this is nuts! You are the reason she is doing insane journeys for a day of childcare! Sort it out - if MiL is unreliable then arrange for paid care. It's not your mum's problem to fix.

Namenic · 22/09/2022 14:58

i think you just need to take annual leave to cover MIL days. Personally I would move to an area with more affordable childcare - ideally to be closer to your mum too (or at least more in the middle of both parents).

NuffSaidSam · 22/09/2022 14:58

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

This! It's not your MIL's problem that you're planning to have two children, but can't even afford childcare for one.

ODFOx · 22/09/2022 14:59

I concur with the previous posters. The grandmothers helping isn't workable moving forward. It's time to look for local childcare for one day a week or another way to condense your hours to cover the days that your DMiL was covering.

Gensola · 22/09/2022 14:59

Pay for childcare like everyone else!

hedgehoglurker · 22/09/2022 15:00

Does your MIL ever offer to swap weeks? Either way, if moving works for the family, it sounds like the best option. Your DM deserves a break, at least from the constant travelling.

thaegumathteth · 22/09/2022 15:01

There's no way on earth I'd have my mum travelling all that way to begin with!!

arethereanyleftatall · 22/09/2022 15:03

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

Exactly this. Just what I was thinking.

FlibbertyGiblets · 22/09/2022 15:04

You say to both that you and DH have reflected on the arrangements and you can see that they are not working and are unsustainable. Much as everyone loved the idea of sharing childcare you and DH have realised that it just doesn't work. Thank you all for your magnificent efforts. Stand down.

And do this asap.

CrotchetyQuaver · 22/09/2022 15:05

You need to research childcare options in your area. This is unsustainable for all of you going forward and I can't help but think the cost of the train fare when your mum comes would go a fair way towards covering the cost of the childcare that day. Unfortunately this is how it is with young children, it's a few years where most of your wages go on childcare, but it works out better for you in the longer run than taking a few years out then returning to the workplace.

FlounderingFruitcake · 22/09/2022 15:06

Having your mum do that journey does sound like you’re taking advantage of her tbh. You also seem to be insinuating that MIL should be declined wedding invites and not be able to go on holiday whenever she wants because she has to be on call as your unpaid sitter. I feel sorry for the pair of them. You should be really grateful they help you out at all! Why aren’t you or DH taking leave to cover when she’s away? But if that’s a no go for some reason like you’re both teachers then you’ll have to sort proper childcare and find a way to pay for it.

DistrictCommissioner · 22/09/2022 15:07

Surely the train fares are equivalent to the childcare cost?

AperolWhore · 22/09/2022 15:08

downwiththebees · 22/09/2022 14:54

Surely the cost of a day at nursery (we pay £50) would be considerably cheaper than a 10hour train trip?!

@downwiththebees this 🙌🏻

my parents have our child every Monday but also holiday frequently, I just book an extra nursery session for that day. I can’t see how that can be more expensive than train fair…

Tallulasdancingshoes · 22/09/2022 15:08

I think you need to move so childcare is more affordable. Your current situation is a lot for your mum and MIL sounds like she’s too busy to help regularly.

Ponderingwindow · 22/09/2022 15:14

Your MIL has no responsibility for the burden being placed on your mother. That is 100% with you and your husband.

Childcare isn’t an optional expense when you make the choice to have children. You either pay it directly by employing someone or indirectly by lack of labor. You need to review your budget carefully and find places to cut. That may mean a radical overhaul of your life, even moving somewhere with a lower cost of living. You can’t keep expecting free labor from women who have the right to enjoy the time they are still healthy. Adding a second child is only going to increase the unfair demands you are making on them.

wut · 22/09/2022 15:14

"I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of."

Yes. You are taking advantage of your mother. If you can't afford childcare for one day then why on earth are you pregnant again? Beggars belief.

Feyre · 22/09/2022 15:15

Could the grandmas swap weeks?

user1474315215 · 22/09/2022 15:17

So many people saying it's not the MIL who's taking advantage, but she shouldn't have offered to take on this commitment if she wasn't prepared to stick to it. I do regular weekly childcare for my DGC and make sure that I arrange any social events around it. You need to be clear with your MIL that, much as you appreciate her offer, if she wants to continue to provide childcare she needs to be prepared to be reliable.

lickenchugget · 22/09/2022 15:19

This is what happens when you don’t pay for childcare, it’s not reliable.

What are your plans for when DC2 is born and you have to return to work?