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Advice needed family childcare nightmare

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RedDragon26 · 22/09/2022 13:22

I really need some advice on our current childcare arrangement as it's beginning to cause my partner and I a huge amount of stress. This is a really sensitive topic so please no judgement.

I'm a FTM with a beautiful 19 month old DS. I am also 3 months pregnant with our second (and really feeling the first trimester fatigue big time). I took 12 months of maternity leave and alongside annual leave, I did the full-time care of my son until he was 15 months old. I appreciate that this makes me incredibly lucky and I cherished the time with him. Even though this was a massive financial hit for us we worked out that paying for childcare would have been more expensive and so to make ends meet I worked privately on the evenings and weekends whilst my partner worked full-time during the day. It was tough, but we survived....just!

When I had to go back to work part-time a few months ago we made an agreement that my son would go to one of his grandmas every other week. So my mum and my MIL are effectively doing 1 day each every 2 weeks. (My partner and I both work condensed hours to cover the other days). My mother lives 5 hours away from us, and my MIL lives a 10 mins drive away. I was worried that it was a lot of effort for my mother to take on but both grandmas were happy with the arrangement and keen to be involved so we're trying to make it work. We arranged to reimburse my mother for her train travel. My son loves both of his grandmas and they're great with him. We've worked really hard to build positive relationships with the family which is why this situation is so hard.

Here comes the difficult part, in the past 4 months I've had to ask my mother to cover my MIL's day with my son 4 TIMES!!!! Roughly, once a month, even though she's only supposed to have him twice a month. This isn't because of any family emergency or sudden change in schedule, but because she has been on holiday abroad.... 4 times in 4 months. She has just informed us that she has another 2 booked before Christmas as well as weddings abroad that will need covering. I'm really struggling to not feel resentful about this, and please believe me when I say I don't begrudge her the breaks or her social life at all. This is her decision and she is entitled to enjoy herself, however, I feel extremely protective of my mother. My mother is a widow who's travelling extremely long distances in her late 60s and is also a full-time carer for my sibling with special needs. I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of. When we've spoken to my MIL about this, she expresses how much she loves looking after my son, doesn't want my mother having to do more than her share, and wants the arrangement to continue however I'm feeling sceptical about how motivated she really is given the holidays always seem to fall on weeks she's agreed to look after my son. It's left me in a really awkward position as I have to work but I have no one else I can ask to help apart from my mother who lives so far away. I've even started staying down with my mum for a week (when I can work from home) with my son so that I can ease the travelling my mother has to do. My partner is feeling increasingly frustrated with his family and it's starting to effect their relationship which is so upsetting. It's also effecting ours because we've got no choice but to spend so much time apart. The best case scenario would be that we could get my son into childcare and not have to rely on family but unfortunately, we can't afford childcare in our area and I can't afford to give up my job, especially now that I'm pregnant again and need the maternity pay.

We're now considering moving closer to my mother (which is a significantly cheaper area) and putting my son into nursery there before the new baby comes. However, my partner is worried that his mother will see this as us being ungrateful (which we're certainly not) and choosing one grandma over another even though the point of the move would be so be don't have to rely on either on them for childcare. I'm really concerned that we need to resolve something before our second comes along. Has anyone been in a similar situation and it worked out? Im struggling to think of what other options we have at this point.

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PurBal · 22/09/2022 15:21

We also have this alternate week arrangement with mum and mil (although both are around an hour away). Mum/mil negotiate any “swaps” or cover between themselves then let us know in a group WhatsApp. They have a good relationship so works. Sometimes it means one comes over 3 weeks in a row. I personally wouldn’t have considered asking a parent who lives 5 hours away to do this but I also know people who do and it brings them a lot of joy. If your mil has agreed to childcare and can’t arrange alternatives herself then frankly she’s not helping and I would break the arrangement with her. I would put DS in formal childcare (but it would be tight financially) if you don’t move.

BecauseICan22 · 22/09/2022 15:22

ThermoSpooklear · 22/09/2022 14:50

I can't help but feel like she's being taken advantage of.

By you! Pay for childcare and take the pressure off your mum who is under no obligation to do this.

This is spades!!!!

How has this been a remotely good idea given how far she lives, her caring needs at home and that it's your child!!!!!!

Dude, outsource your childcare for 1 day a week, pay for it like most people do and take the hit.

I'm stunned that you'd put this on either grandmothers, good on your MIL for actually living her life.

People are amazing!

DeeplyMovingExperience · 22/09/2022 15:28

So you can't afford childcare, and you're having another child...

NotLactoseFree · 22/09/2022 15:30

I disagree with posters saying that you are the one taking advantage of your mother. But neither is your MIL. What's happening is that your MIL is letting you down and your mother is picking up the slack, which is unfair.

You do need to find better childcare. If it's a 5 hour journey, the train fares must be horrendous - surely paying for childcare is cheaper than that? When DC1 was small I found a local woman who wasn't working full time but could do ad hoc babysitting - could you find someone like that who is expensive, but only needs to be used when your MIL is travelling?

Or advertise/ ask around for a local family who wants to do a childcare swap - on one of your /your dh's days off you have their child and they have yours on a day you are both working.

There ARE options that don't involve you paying for your mother to do a ridiculous journey.

Flangelasashes · 22/09/2022 15:30

You are taking the absolute piss out of both of them. The NECK of you giving out because your MIL went on holidays. She is entitled to go wherever she wants, whenever she wants, she has reared her kids. You don't think she is motivated enough??? Are you having a laugh?

Your own mother IS being taken advantage of...BY YOU!!!!

Move to where you can afford childcare and stop the entitled twaddle.

MsMarch · 22/09/2022 15:31

You wil have a lot of people telling you how awful you are for expecting childcare help but I get it - MIL promised to help and is now regularly backing out of the agreement. That's not great. But it's your responsibility to come up with a solution that doesn't involve her nor that requires your mum to travel for 10 hours.

Beseen22 · 22/09/2022 15:33

You need to pay for childcare but the amazing thing is you have 2 grandparents who can and are willing to provide any back up childcare. That is incredibly valuable.

User0610134057 · 22/09/2022 15:35

I think you might have to pay for a nursery or childminder place every week and then if there is a grandparent visiting who wants to help instead that’s fine you just don’t use it that week.

if the two grandmas are genuinely wanting to continue and in particular your mum is happy with her fortnightly visit then there needs to be no expectation your mum ‘covers’ for your mil! Either one of you take leave, or they do a swap so your mum doesn’t end up doing more, or you have an ad hoc childminder that can help but this is obviously hard to find as they will want to fill their places properly and your Dc won’t be familiar with them.

diddl · 22/09/2022 15:36

You can't afford childcare in your area but that surely doesn't mean that you have to move 5hrs away to your Mum?

Changechangychange · 22/09/2022 15:36

Your MIL has demonstrated she is flakey, so you need to find an alternative solution which isn’t your DM travelling ten hours.

Moving closer to your DM would be one option. Full time childcare would be another. This issue will presumably solve itself in six months anyhow as you’ll be on mat leave again.

allboysherebutme · 22/09/2022 15:38

I'd move closer to your mother if it is possible.
Also use a childminder when you get there as they're more flexible than nurseries I find.

If you can move closer to your mother you will have more support and childcare will be cheaper. X

TooHotToTangoToo · 22/09/2022 15:38

Pay for childcare, it's so much easier and you don't have the drama. That way not gp can be gp and not child minders. I know it's expensive, but it's not forever

allboysherebutme · 22/09/2022 15:40

Also would you not be eligible for some help with childcare costs. ?
Tax credits ect. ?

catandcoffee · 22/09/2022 15:41

It's obvious your mil doesn't really want to look after your child.
She just doesn't know how to tell you.

You don't book holidays on the week you've committed to look after gc.

Mariposista · 22/09/2022 15:41

You pay for childcare. If you can’t afford it, why are you pregnant again?

notalwaysalondoner · 22/09/2022 15:42

My parents do one day a week but I pay for nursery for that day for this exact reason - they weren't willing to do it if it meant they couldn't go on holidays abroad when they felt like it.

I'm sure you can find a childminder that has a free slot considering you are only looking for one day a fortnight (your MIL's day) and just pay for it as a back-up. Childminders near me are £6/hr so that would only be £48 every other week. They might even be willing for you to just pay a retainer that is less than that so you can keep the spot, and only pay the full amount if you actually need to use the slot. Most people pay many times more that for childcare.

Moving seems a bit unnecessary, unless you really want to move there anyway.

JenniferBarkley · 22/09/2022 15:43

Can't believe you even considered your mum doing childcare when she's 5 hours away. Our parents are 1 and 2.5 hours away and it never even crossed our minds.

For the sake of one day a week, let them both off the hook and use a nursery (honestly, the older they get the more they get out of it, mine go five days and adore it). Then you can see your parents socially, and your mum can choose when she feels like travelling, and your MIL can go on whatever holidays she likes.

DisforDarkChocolate · 22/09/2022 15:45

The only person taking advantage of your Mother is you. You need paid childcare, that's the bare fact of the matter.

TheBoxOfWhat · 22/09/2022 15:50

I'd move to the cheaper area for cheaper housing and cheaper childcare. You cannot always rely on family even when they are willing an able. My Mum died very suddenly and quite unexpectedly leaving my sister stranded childcare wise.

Your MIL having promised childcare can no longer be relied on and if childcare is not affordable where you are and you have the option to move then do it before the whole school places becomes an issue.

JSDLS · 22/09/2022 15:57

allboysherebutme · 22/09/2022 15:38

I'd move closer to your mother if it is possible.
Also use a childminder when you get there as they're more flexible than nurseries I find.

If you can move closer to your mother you will have more support and childcare will be cheaper. X

This 👆

SpiderinaWingMirror · 22/09/2022 16:03

There is a price to be paid for "free" childcare.
Pay for dc to do 1 day a week in nursery, if you can find one. Keep your parents to cover when ill or just to spend enjoyable time with.
If it works better for you, move nearer your dm but not so you can rely on her to look after a toddler and a baby, but to be an extra pair of hands.

ChicCroissant · 22/09/2022 16:05

I'm finding this all hard to believe - it's your job to cover the gap when your MIL goes on holiday, why would you expect your own mother to do it? Why didn't you just take a day's holiday?

Squirrelly1 · 22/09/2022 16:07

This situation is of your own creation.
It sounds as though MIL doesn’t really take the arrangement seriously, in that its regular help you need to facilitate your jobs and not ad hoc baby sitting. I wouldn’t feel bad for taking her out of the equation and changing the arrangements.
Is your DM happy to take on more child care if you were to move closer? What are the childcare plans for the second child?
Did you have a back up plan when you started this arrangement?
I doubt that you’ll find a palatable solution on MN. Either keep burdening your DM or pay for child care.

Tallulasdancingshoes · 22/09/2022 16:10

The more I think about, it seems like your MIL shouldn’t have offered to do childcare if she couldn’t commit. She is of course entitled to go on holiday etc whenever she likes, but she shouldn’t have committed to help with childcare in the first place with such a busy social life. She should have been more upfront to start off with and never entered into the arrangement in the first place.

abovedecknotbelow · 22/09/2022 16:10

5 hours away? I can't get past that bit. Does she stay with you overnight? The trains must cost nearly as much if not more than a nursery.

It's an unstainable arrangement.