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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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losing my first mindee - to an unregistered childminder

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maximummummy · 09/09/2007 22:26

i'm feeling really sad as i've had mindee for a year and he was my first regular his sibling is just starting school and going to a friend of the mum's who is as yet un-registered so parents feel it will be too much hassle to use both of us
i had a feeling this would happen but i still feel really shocked also he is my ds's favourite mindee and he always asks for him in the morning they are the same age and will go through nursery and school together

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PillockOfTheCommunity · 09/09/2007 23:45

if they'll be going to nursery and school together it may work out for the best that you are not his childminder

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maximummummy · 09/09/2007 23:48

why?

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PillockOfTheCommunity · 09/09/2007 23:52

because it might cause an issue if they stop being friends at school and you are still minding him, can you imagine how difficult it would be if your ds was forced to have this boy at his house when he didn't like him? and how awkward it would be for you and the parents if the children fell out?

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maximummummy · 09/09/2007 23:56

erm maybe i'll just wait for someone who isn't playing "let's clear unanswered threads"

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PillockOfTheCommunity · 10/09/2007 00:03

i'm not. i'm being quite serious actually, i was in this situation as a child and it was really awkward.

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maximummummy · 10/09/2007 00:14

yeah i was in that situation too come to think of it but it didn't kill me and i'm a childminder he's going to have to put up with kids he doesn't like sometimes that's inevitable really

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PillockOfTheCommunity · 10/09/2007 00:16

It put me off looking after children of friends and friends of ds actually, had thought about offering as ds1's best friend needs someone to go to for an hour after nursery, but i can imagine it becoming a nightmare for me when they weren't talking

Kiddi · 10/09/2007 00:35

OOH! Gutting! (BIg HUg) tried to leave long cheering messsage but had probs logging on and that was at 11.30 last night. so here goes short reply as im off to bed. Stay professional, and you never know she may have to come back with both of them soon as unregistered childcare can have its own problems. good luck and head up.

Rubybees · 10/09/2007 14:16

I'm a bitch (but in line with regulations) I would report this un-reg childminder [smile}

KaySamuels · 10/09/2007 14:43

I would report the unregistered childminder too, but not because I wanted mindee back (his parents have shown they don't respect your proffesionalism anyway by choosing an unregistered carer for their children), but because it is my biggest bug bear.

Unregistered carers are not police checked (nor are their partners), not insured, not inspected by anyone - and always make the newspapers when things go wrong - giving registered childminders a bad name! Plus they usually charge less and parents go to them as they would rather save a few quid a week than put their kids welll being first! (That's how it is in my area anyway!)

Report them, they won't give out your details, and then move on.

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maximummummy · 10/09/2007 14:46

LOL rubybees i'm very tempted to report her as i heard that she could get a £2000 fine- that'd serve her right
Took me ages to get to sleep last night as i was ranging from sad that i'd miss mindee and really annoyed that i'd been messed about
I know it's a danger of the job but it's still knocked me a bit . . . .

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fifilou · 10/09/2007 14:56

I would like to second what kay said- so many chilminders work so hard to vget where they are, its unfair and unregistered should take your mindee. Outrageous! Report her!

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maximummummy · 10/09/2007 15:05

when the mum phoned me and told me what they were going to do i did say "you do know that it isn't legal to childmind if you are not registered?" and she just said that she knew that they wouldn't be able to claim childcare because she's not registered !
the mum wants to meet up this week and i will tell her what i think of situation but i don't want to fall out as i might need a reference from her

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dmo · 10/09/2007 17:27

my mindee that i have had for 4yrs is leaving to go to his friends house after school each night
so she is a sort of un reg childminder
feeling sad bout it but hey ho

Rubybees · 10/09/2007 21:33

Glad I'm not the only one who would report hehe it's because of this childminders get a bad name and everybody thinks it's an easy life hardest thing I've ever done (Uni, supervisor in Asda ect I used to be normal lol)

juuule · 10/09/2007 22:37

Sad if you and your ds are going to miss him but part of the job, I would think. Your ds will meet up with him again at nursery from what your say, and they'll probably be glad to see each other. Perhaps you could invite him over for tea or something.
Parents choose for their children to go to where it is best for them and their families. This family think this is a better arrangement for them. I don't think it would be very professional of you to sabotage their plans by reporting their friend unless you have concerns about the children's safety. And you never know if you have been fair with the family then if things don't work out they might come back to you anyway.

Tricey · 11/09/2007 12:44

Maximum - A question for you and the others here...
Is someone who works for a family for 8-10 hours a day and 5 to 6 days a week also supposed to be registered? Are they considered childminders? Thanks.

hennipenni · 11/09/2007 12:51

Tricey, if the person involved worked in the families home then they would be considered a nanny. However, if they were working in their own home then yes they would need to be registered as a childminder. It is illegal to look after other peoples children in your own home for more than two hours aday for any kind of payment. HTH

Tricey · 11/09/2007 12:53

Thanks Henni. Fast!
Ok, so nannies don't need to be registered then. And childminders are those who mind children in their own home.
Appreciate the help.

hennipenni · 11/09/2007 12:56

Yes, that's right (am fast as waiting for mindee to tidy the things away that were thrown in temper!)

I think that a nanny can volunteer to go on ofsteds register although it's not compulsory (nannynick will correct if I'm wrong)

JodieG1 · 11/09/2007 13:09

If you report her then they'll know it was you but I'd still do it. It's illegal and children could be harmed, as they aren't police checked you never know.

juuule · 11/09/2007 13:23

How do you know they aren't police checked? The mum's friend isn't registered (yet, so might be in the process), but she may be police checked for something else. A

JodieG1 · 11/09/2007 13:29

I don't but you don't have the same assurances as when they are registered.

Hulababy · 11/09/2007 13:32

Is te inregistred woman definitely getting payment for looking after the children?

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