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Miserable Au Pair - really need advice

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flossiebee123 · 02/05/2016 11:56

Hi everyone,

I'm a 20 year old English girl who has just started working as an au pair in France. I'm absolutely miserable and already desperate to go home. I started last Tuesday. I get paid €80-€100 a week, depending on 'how well I do' for around 35 hours, although I would say I've already done more than that. The father told me how much I 'get right' determines how much I get paid. If I do something wrong, I get paid less. I get given a car so I can take the kids out to places. I am supposed to have 2 days off a week when the mother is off from work.. although today, one of the kids is sick (on the mum's day off, therefore supposed to be my day off too) and she's left me at home with a very sick kid and has gone out to meet her friends. She's taken my car so I can't go out, and won't be back til late evening.

So much has happened and come to light in the past week and I feel very torn about whether to go home or not. Deep down I know I am unhappy and won't last (I'm meant to be here for 4 months) but I'm so shy that I don't feel I can approach the parents, especially as they have been quite kind in some ways.

On the first day I arrived, everything was fine, I just followed the mum around and met the people around them. We had a chat about what I had to do, and that was fine. In the evening, she went out so I was left alone with the dad and the kids. He basically gave me a lecture on how important it was that I make a good impression on the first day and in the first week, which only added to the pressure. The younger of the kids, the boy, is very full of energy and sometimes plays up (although not when I'm around). That day, he did something a bit stupid and I was expected to discipline him. They told me about one of their other au pairs who wasn't that great in their eyes because she wouldn't tell him off. I don't feel comfortable shouting at other people's kids but it's what they seem to expect.

The next day, we went to all the kids' activities, and it came out that I was expected to drive them to their activities, which was never mentioned. I understood I would have to do some driving, but not entirely take over the parents' duties. I was expected to remember my way around after one drive. I also found out I'm expected to drive the kids' friends to the activities as well, which was again never mentioned. At the end of the day I sort of had a breakdown because she wrote up a 'planning' for the next week, and I found out I will have to cook for them which I was promised I wouldn't have to do, but I actually wouldn't have minded had they been honest about that straight up.

They have a camp site at which they spend the summer. I was told we wouldn't be going there until July, but I got told when I arrived that we are supposed to go there every weekend. In their emails, they promised me an all equipped caravan so I could have my own space. At the weekend, we went there and they had left the electricity and water disconnected, and I can't use the toilet or shower because they're broken. They lock the house at night so I can't go in, so I can't go to the toilet if I need to. I had no heating so I was really cold. Friday was supposed to be one of my days off too, but one of the kids (the one that's off today) went home sick from school and I was expected to drop everything and go to the camp site.

I was promised a smart phone so that we could keep in touch easily, and so I could keep in touch with my friends because the area I'm in is very isolated. They lied about this, then my actual phone didn't work because they couldn't be bothered to find the charger so I've been having to use my English phone. It's only today when V is sick again that they bothered to find the charger.

I have had next to no free time because of all the chores I'm expected to do, I haven't even been able to explore the area in the time I've been here. They leave the house in a tip in the morning so I spend most of my day cleaning, then I have to go and get the kids from school and do all my evening chores and jobs. Even on my days off so far I have just been cleaning. I was supposed to be off yesterday and today but have spent both days looking after the kids. I completed all the housework the other day, they came home and moaned at me because the cat was still in the house.

In the summer, it's only going to get worse as the parents don't have any time off so I will be working 7 days a week without any free time. I get a few weeks off while the kids go away to their grandparents', but I already feel so exhausted and unhappy. I don't know if I'm going to last that long.

Am I being unreasonable? Is it wrong of me to want to go home? I really don't want to let them down because they're a really nice family but I'm so unhappy and don't want to be here at all.

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Elvisrocks · 03/05/2016 10:46

You need to leave by Thursday at the very latest. They are treating you appallingly. Lots of my friends in England have au pairs and they are meticulous about sticking to the agreed hours and generally not taking the piss, like your host family is doing.

traviata · 03/05/2016 10:48

"nice people' - but not good or reasonable employers, not honest with you, not being at all fair with you.

'nice people' - who treat you badly. No toilet! Locking you out overnight! Expecting you to drive strange children in a strange town without proper arrangements. Threatening to withhold your money if you don't meet some notional performance standard. These are totally unacceptable.

It's good that the children seem to have taken to you, that shows you have made a good effort in bonding with them, but it is not by itself enough to justify you putting up with this treatment.

BoboChic · 03/05/2016 10:50

This is slave labour and completely illegal! Leave!

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 03/05/2016 10:53

Just leave. They are exploiting you.

Some of the stuff doesn't sound terrible like leaving you a note about the dance stuff (especially in the label says don't tumble dry!) but the stuff that matters like hours, duties, expectation, access to a working toilet and being properly registered as required by law really, really do.

Pack your bags, book your flight and get the hell out of there.

sparechange · 03/05/2016 11:00

Of course the kids really like you! You won't/don't tell them off, and ferry them to all their fun activities.

The Au Pair experience is about learning more than a language. It is about learning life skills and independence, which will serve you later in life.
That absolutely includes standing up for yourself, not being emotionally blackmailed, and not being lied to about jobs.

From the sounds of it, this family burns through Au Pairs, so it isn't going to turn their wold upside down if you leave. If it was, they would have learned their lesson before now and started treating them better!

It is a very unhealthy pattern for you to fall into where you overlook huge, huge problems when they show you a small chink of kindness. A couple of meals out does not balance or outweigh that they are treating you like crap all week.

Don't get into that mindset. Boyfriends, employers, family members will take advantage of it and you will potentially fall into a pattern of unhealthy relationships with a range of people.

Go home, and see if you can find a better job nearer your boyfriend for the summer. They'll be plenty of jobs in holiday camps etc which won't need formal childcare qualifications but give you set hours and accommodation.

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark · 03/05/2016 11:00

Ex au-pair here. And my family really were nice. Yours are not. At all.

Just think of these few things: if anything happens on your watch, you are illegally employed and wouldn't have a leg to stand on. EU bollocks. You need a contract. The only reason for them not giving you one is so you have no rights and no comeback.

Really, they are not nice.

flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 11:08

I think the reason why my expectations are low is because I've never done this before and I really don't know if I'm overreacting. I don't really know if I'm being a princess because they do pay for my petrol and my food as well as giving me a really nice room in this house and weeks off in summer, they often take their au pairs travelling with them etc, I don't have to get up early unless the kids are off/sick or the parents are going to work early like at the weekends, but I'm really quite shocked that despite their work being really busy they left me alone with their sick 5 year old all day yesterday.

They've had a lot of au pairs before but I don't know if they had to do half as much as I'm having to. I don't think they're very happy with me today because last night the cat pissed all over their bed, but they were here so it didn't happen when I was here alone. I'm just quite irritated that my days/time off have been spent looking after a really sick kid who doesn't really want me, he just wants his mum. I understand that au pairs are meant to be part of the family and pitch in but I think there's a limit.

LyndaNotLinda & SnoozeButtonAbuser, I'm obviously not happy at all re taking all the kids in the car.. especially when I don't know the way. I'm so anxious about it, I feel quite sick thinking about what I have to do later. I'm also not happy because it was never ever mentioned that I would be taking other peoples' kids around. I think they view me as a sort of nanny rather than an au pair.

I just know that this weekend I'm gonna be left alone during the days while the kids aren't there, so I'm really not looking forward to that. potoftea, that made me laugh, my mum is furious with them because of the whole caravan fiasco. My boyfriend has told me I can always go to his, for as long as I want if I want to. It's just his flatmates. But I think if it comes down to it, I could put up with them.

Radiatorvalves what do I do if I don't have a contract? Do you think this is bad? I really don't know what to expect or think. How do I have the conversation? I'm sorry for all these questions, I just don't know what to do.

I just really really wish I could stay at the house this weekend, instead I'm having to go to the campsite with them all even though the kids aren't going to be there.

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flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 11:23

ThenLaterWhenItGotDark, if I was registered through CPAM etc would I have had to sign anything? It's just that I've been given zero paperwork or anything.

There's really no clear cut separation of my hours and free time. I think I am 'on duty' until the kids go to bed, which is at 8.30-9pm.

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 03/05/2016 11:33

Pack your bags. Really life is too short for nonsense like this. You gave it a go, they took the piss, you left. That's a good outcome.

BoboChic · 03/05/2016 11:37

Stop thinking about it and leave. It isn't worth dissecting and analysing - it's just not good enough.

Goingtobeawesome · 03/05/2016 11:38

Could they have seen this thread? They suddenly pay you $100 and tell you the kids like you. Sounds like emotional blackmail.

I was an au pair and didn't know I had to clean the whole house until I'd been there for more than a month but nowhere near as bad as your situation. Go home or get another job.

flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 12:08

Goingtobeawesome, I very highly doubt it as their English is not fantastic. What did you end up doing?

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut and BoboChic, I want so badly just to pack it in but I'm worried they'll think I'm being unreasonable.

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MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 03/05/2016 12:09

So what if they do? Stop worrying about people who don't give a shit about you.

Come on, woman up!

LyndaNotLinda · 03/05/2016 12:13

Why are you going to sit in a caravan with no heating and hot water all weekend? Don't go! Just leave.

They are supposed to provide you with food and board - that's what you get as an AP.

Seriously - have you sat down and worked out your hourly rate for your 100 euros??

flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 12:14

I know, I think I'm gonna do it this weekend while the kids are away. I don't want them to be there when we're talking about it.

I'm sorry, I'm just in a difficult position but I know you're right. Thank you so much for all your advice. I'm really glad to know I'm not the only one who finds it all unreasonable.

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gamerchick · 03/05/2016 12:25

They've denied you a toilet man, time to leave.

flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 12:32

LyndaNotLinda, yeah I've worked out that as of today - a week since I got here - I think I have worked out that tonight I will have worked ~51 hours (working 14 today alone). So, that comes out about €2 an hour, if not just under.

They've given me a portable heater for my caravan but there is not any hot water so I'll have to use the shower and toilet in their house. I don't think they're planning to spend any time with me this weekend so it's going to be really sucky sitting alone all the time in my caravan. When we're at this house (which is where I would prefer to stay this weekend seeing as the kids aren't around and they really don't need me), I have a really nice room and my own toilet but the shower doesn't work. We also aren't really here the majority of the time because we're always running over to the caravan site. They do give me food as well.

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Kidnapped · 03/05/2016 13:14

Stop thinking about it so much.

Work until Thursday, and then just tell them on Friday and head off. That gives them a few days to find alternative childcare which is frankly more than they deserve.

Spend a week in Bordeaux and see if you can find a job and share a flat with another girl or something. If it doesn't pan out then head home.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 03/05/2016 13:28

Stop saying they give you food and a nice room like it's a massive favour. I have a terrible au pair who expects me to provide very specific food, cook her meals do her laundry, announces she's not working X or Y day at no notice, doesn't do what I asked, gives me cheek when politely asked something and I still pay her £90 a week and her gym membership for an average of 22 hours! I even let her use the loo when she wants it would be nice if she returned the favour

Seriously, get out now.

MovingOnUpMovingOnOut · 03/05/2016 13:29

My au pair is "working" her notice btw. I'm not a total mug.

catsrus · 03/05/2016 13:41

I second the advice to look on the helpex site - my dd worked her way around parts of Europe doing helpex and is now in South America doing the same. I have had au pairs and one of them had a friend, another au pair, who was being treated like this in the UK - she LITERALLY had to polish the family silver Shock - we advised her to leave. This should be a wonderful experience for you, not torture!

plantsitter · 03/05/2016 13:45

God I was just like you when I was your age. Just don't put up with this shit. Leave - I'm guessing your French is good, go and get a summer job in a bar in Bordeaux or something. Stay in a hostel. Go and pick some grapes www.seasonworkers.com/summerjobs/resorts/summerjobsinfrance.aspx.

Don't waste your youth too timid to leave a manky caravan with an entitled pair of twats!

flossiebee123 · 03/05/2016 13:47

Thank you so much, your stbx au pair sounds like she's incredibly lucky. I know I need to get out.

I'm gonna let the kids go away this weekend and I'll speak to them then. That way if I need to go, I can get home. Gonna pack my bags on the quiet today, and then if I need to I can come back and grab them.

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didyoureally · 03/05/2016 14:08

I just did a double-take when I saw that you had only been with this family for a week. I can hardly believe what has happened to you in such a short amount of time. If this is an average week I think you will make yourself miserable by going through more of the same for the next few months.
You sound lovely, but you need to stop worrying about what this family thinks about you and use your free time to prepare for your escape!!

Goingtobeawesome · 03/05/2016 14:23

I stayed the year but refused to do a second one.

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