mum brought baby but no milk

[amphion]

Had a trial morning with a 5 month old baby - from 9.30 to 12.
All went well except his mum brought him 'breakfast' - pureed fruit, and water from a trainer beaker to drink, which I did manage to get him to eat but he did seem like he really wanted a bottle but hey ho I did what mum wanted. (He had had a bottle already earlier in the morning.) When mum picked him up I asked if she would be giving him some milk at next feed but she said no, he would have 'lunch'. Oh dear, I'm a bit worried now she's going to keep me short of milk for him - afterall he's still a small baby - isn't he? Any advice?

Funny how people always wait until the small hours before making this sort of post

Charmed to meet you too, catew.

I am still giving my 2 years old son milupa forward before bad and if he wakes up in the night. And he is so happy ,healthy baby.sometime extra daytime

I started to feed him with solid food about 4.5 months but always slowly I introduced him now eating everything and still taking his milk happily.
I believe milk is very important in baby's life
Of course what think other mothers about this I don't know? It is so early pushing poor baby to eat solid food. Sorry if this idea wrong for some people.
Of course we are only childminder-I am very new actually-but we are the only responsible person looking after those little babies after their parents.
And if we can do better for babies why we won?t try . I am a mother I believe all mothers will understand me.
Thanks.

Im probably being a bit thick but I dont get the meaning of the picture hunkermunker. What is it

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Greensleeves, dietitian is spelt with two ts and no c. As in a practitioner of dietetics.

dietician?

Ive got to admit in my opinion Greensleeves you did come across as being rude and not nice about this subject. You may be a nice person but you have made a lot of us feel you have not dealt with this in a friendly manner - after all we are all on here for advice support and HAPPY discussions keep smiling

It feels like everyones jumped in with both feet here. As a childminder it a good idea to know babies routines in advance of looking after them I would have thought instead of speculating about how much milk they should or shouldnt take. As a parent it would have been sensible to tell the childminder about their feeding pattern in advance. Thereby preventing big arguments on mumsnet. Just to add that if a childminder felt it appropriate to give me advice about how to feed my own baby after 2.5 hours I'd tell her to stick it where the sun dont shine. Id probably add 'If you're so keen to give me advice where's your documentation?'(Im also a cmder)

Im amazed that we're only talking about 2 1/2 hours here. Hey ho.

Greeny have you been rucking again?

I do apologise, ladies, she does slip her chain from time to time and there's very little we can do about it...

I'm quite happy with everything I posted on this thread, I think it was a reasonable response to HappyMumof2's posts and I meant what I said. Childminders aren't qualified to offer guidance on infant nutrition and shouldn't presume to do so, IMO. I think clear boundaries are necessary on both sides where childcare is concerned, for everyone's benefit.

Nothing like a bit of McCarthyite witch-hunting to promote bonding though - go ahead if, you enjoy it.

It's a photo of some guides.

For...guidance.

Geddit?

[weak punny thing]

'Macarthyite witch hunting'? I think someone has a slightly inflated idea of their own importance. I think saying to someone 'your arrogance is truly astounding' in response thier mild-mannered comment, It may be they would welcome a bit of guidance' is just plain rude. Not to mention completely over the top.

'Macarthyite witch hunting'? I think someone has a slightly inflated idea of their own importance. I think saying to someone 'your arrogance is truly astounding' in response thier mild-mannered comment, It may be they would welcome a bit of guidance' is just plain rude. Not to mention completely over the top.

ishyan.........wot documentation does a cm need to give advice?! new one to me!!!

Read this with interest.Have to say,very diplomatically,that both sides have valid points.I childminded for a short time but could not afford the drop in pay so returned to work.Now at the risk of incurring the wrath of the CM club I had to say I found the registraion and inspection process very very easy.The course was simple and very tedious.I gained the hightest possible 'grade' in my inspection with no children present!Purely on the basis of my 'outstanding' paperwork.This side of cm'ing came easy after years of policy development work in the civil service.After the CM'ing training I was in no way equpipped to offer nutritional advice.I had gut feelings from my experience with my own children,but no doubt I did not do everything correctly with my own children.I would not have expected a parent to heed my advice as a cm.As a fellow parent and someone I had built a relationship with yes. However as a self employed person I was within my rights to refuse to care for a child whose parents I did not feel comfortable with.And of course a cm should know what the childs routines and the parents expectations are.And of course a parent should know what the child has been behaving like during their tiem at the cm's.And to come out in sympathy with cm's some parents have truly awful parenting skills.However it is like everything in life -there is good and bad everywhere and some cm's have very outdated ideas -I know my sil way was one of them (but is a good person)She was a childminder for 14 yrs and is a bit of a know it all and was always judging mindees parents and commenting on their decisions.As a parent I would not expect a cm to question my decisons unless they felt the child was at risk of harm.I'm sorry but after having the training I have to say it is just not rigourous enough to say that every cm is a childcare professional,some with additional qualifications yes,but all no.Before everyone jumps on that please bear in mind the word professioanl is bandied about a lot these days but a true professioanl posseses a set of esoteric knowledge and skills.I do not consider the skills and experience I gained in the short hours of the cm course to be esoteric. Have to say after seeing it from the inside the inspection process is a joke and anyone who is a bit crafty can pull the wool over a inspectors eyes with a few well worded policies and knowing all the right 'buzzwords'. Which is shame as I'm sure there are wonderful cm's out there who dont have this abilty and suffer because of that.But thats another thread.

thanks for explaining hunker I didn't get it on my own
I'm a c/m and i have a baby of 6mths (no4) and he still drinks stacks of milk and would still need milk between 10-11am

Thanks hunker. It was quite obvious now youve told us what it was.

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Haven't started quite yet with the baby - I'm going to see what mum brings on the day and how it goes. Without giving her advice (!) I can then tell her how I've found it.
Obviously, this posting has brought to the fore one of the most sensitive aspects of childminding, i.e. that although we may be closely involved with the up-bringing of someone's child, you have to be very careful not to overstep the mark, and this has been a useful reminder to me, even when dealing with parents whom I have known a long time and have a good relationship with.

Smeeinit- the documentation that you keep of my child's normal routines. Before anyone started giving me advice Id want to know as a parent that they had at least been bothered to find out what my babies normal sleep pattern was, how much milk they usually drank, what type of milk, what comforters they used, etc etc. Put it this way Im a nurse aswell as a cmder and I wouldnt dream of looking after a patient without knowing their background and history. Its like saying 'this patient needs an operation because they havent been to the toilet today only to find out later they usually go to the toilet every two days'. Why do cmders not feel the same? its very arrogant to assume you know everything about babies because you've looked after a few!

wtf?!! calm down ishyan..................
who suggested on this post that they knew everything about babies cos they looked after a few?

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precisely!!!