Poorly child

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Child is 14 months, has a cold, just generally not happy, contacted Mom to let her know, that she's not herself, Mom has told me she's got to much to do to collect her at the moment??? What do you do??? i can't just sit cuddling all day, have others to look after, ( i'm having a late lunch and 5 minutes right now!!)

Scary?!

That's brilliant!!! I'm actually laughing out loud. Actually.

Unfortunately many families are only understanding when it comes to their own child, not other people's

*I know you didn't say scary before you tell me

not scary outraged - sarcy, as in sarcastic....

Stop the madness!!!!! Would you let mindees behave like this? Expect you both have small children to look after tomorrow so please just give it up - you wont win an argument like this and all it does is bring the trolls out spouting rubbish about all cm's being money grabbing half wits who watch tv all day and don't give a stuff about children. Rise above ladies, rise above.

i'm off now anyway fivesacrowd. i can't be dealing with someone like this, don't have the energy for it. And people think nannies are the better option?!

oh, but it's so much fun five. Are you sending us to bed?

It's also been quite educational. There has been quite reasonable discussion from most posters. If you edit the name calling and personal insults, it's been interesting.

Ok this is going round in circles. Just looking back through the posts funny how the op could post several times when the child needed cuddling and she couldn't care for the others.

Why not put I'll child on lap and read the others a story instead of being on mumsnet?

Think it must have been a cold.

@ Reet.

She just can't stop.

I have been a childminder for over 20 years and in the past would give a sick child a dose of calpol with the parents permission rather than asking them to collect the child . At my last inspection I was told that due to a change in regulations I am no longer allowed to give calpol without getting signed permission before administrating the calpol. Also I am not allow to keep calpol just incase I might need it. When I questioned what would i do if I was unable to contact anyone to come and sign a permission form for me and the child had a high temperature i was told phone an ambulance.

Bed now! No supper and remember to brush your teeth.

Ok

....but I'm having some reading time first and don't you try to stop me or you can't come to my birthday!!

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Peace and love

Good point mrscupcake :)

No one is bashing cm's - ESP not nannies - guess we are surprised how some work / but in the end as many cm's on here have pointed out / they are self employed and can do what they want

Some parents who use a cm Would be happy with a duvet day - where others wouldn't be

Horses for courses :)

I would go to bed five but bubs needs feeding but also love a debate but then blondes is hitting the sack

The poster who said - "I think all parents know that childminders are unreliable - they take sick days, they go on holiday (while you are still paying for them) etc. " was bashing childminders, to be fair.
In 12 years of minding I have asked for an ill child to be collected once, I have had one sick day when I had suspected pnuemonia and do not charge for any of my holidays ( or my 1 sick day!). I am pretty typical of a childminder, we hate letting our parents/mindees down, we welcome our mindees and parents into our families, we offer flexible care and we are a great choice of childcare, as are nannies.

Hear hear Fightlikeagirl.

It would be unfair and insulting to call childminders unreliable for providing (often above and beyond) the type and level of service the parents have signed up to and pay for. Putting aside some of the more heated and personal arguments, it does come over very much as looking for a pretext to bash childminders.

In the current economic climate, with many families struggling to afford a nanny (or finding that their priorities or values do not lead them to that choice), it is understandable that some might be quick to emphasise the few areas in which the nanny/nursery/childminder service differs and do their best to plant concerns in the minds of potential customers. In practice I am sure that most parents are content with their choices and value their chosen childcarers.

As a parent who uses a CM, I'd probably do the same as an earlier poster and if the CM said my DC was feeling rubbish with a cold I would try and make sure someone could pick her up earlier. I take her in with a cold, generally all the mindees have colds at the same time anyway as they've all caught them off each other! So CM doesn't mind. I've had one call saying "please come and get her now" and she had a temp of 40+ and seemed to have difficulties breathing, perfectly reasonable and CM dealt with it brilliantly.

I hate the CM bashing that's niggling away on this thread Our CM is amazing, so much more flexible than a nursery, and we couldn't manage without her. I suspect it is because some people believe that the CM works 'for them', rather than that they have chosen to use the CM's services. Which is a huge difference.

i'm not a childminder, but my dd (2.4) is with a childminder 4 days a week. there have been times when dd has had a little bit of a cold and i've informed CM of this and said if she feels dd is getting worse through the day then give me or DH a call and one of us will collect her straightaway.

she did phone me once to say DD "was not herself" and was it ok to give her a dose of capol, i replied saying of course and did she need me to come home and pick her up??

tbh my CM's policy seems to be a bit of a cold/snotty nose is ok, but anything more serious then child needs to be at home with parent. my daughter has had a good few bouts of tonsillitis and i've stayed at home with her as i would rather be with her than anyone else, that being said when you are working its not always that easy to leave work straightaway for a non-emergency such as a cold!!

my CM has 2 other lil ones the same age as my DD to look after and she has a duty of care to all of them not just my lil girl xx

I find this really tricky - when I used a CM I was an hour away by train, plus time for the next train. If my DS was feeling poorly, it would have been difficult to get there quickly. DH would sometimes be around, often travelled though. (And no family closer than a 24 hour flight away, which rather defeats the purpose )

And yes, using a CM can be an unreliable form of childcare, especially if they have DC. My last CM had the DSs one day a week, term time only. We missed 3 weeks in a 2 month period because her DD's had Chicken Pox, another 1 the next month because my DS had Chicken Pox (obviously that would have meant being home no matter what form of childcare I used), then a couple more days of no childcare because her DDs had D&V the following month.

To have been asked to keep my DSs at home after all of that because they had a cold would have left me feeling like throwing my hands up in despair.

I suppose, though, my CM's have never had a really large number of children because they had their own DC, so their allowed numbers were always lower, and often they didn't want to be at their maximum allowed number during the day.

So if the DC had a quieter day because either her, my or the other family's DCs were feeling a little under the weather it was fine by all of us.

'obviously that would have meant being home no matter what form of childcare I used'

Don't want to start it all off again, but just FYI a nanny would deal with chicken pox. 3 of my 4 charges have had it while I've been here and neither parent has had to take a day off. I know some parents would want to be at home with them anyway, but my employers don't have the sort of jobs where you can take that sort of time off.

Ah, yes, but I didn't say I would be home, just that DS would be home!!!

And yes, I know that a nanny would be expected to deal with these type of illnesses - which is why I'm planning to get a nanny as soon as I can afford it.

'Ah, yes, but I didn't say I would be home, just that DS would be home!!!'

true!!

op never did come back and comment/update us ......

but as mrs cupcake said, she managed to post on mumsnet a few times with a very poorly child ........

just saying

nurseries dont get ill (as so many staff), but if your child does get ill they wont accept them and you need to find childcare/have day off work

cm may run the risk of themselves or their children being ill so cant have yours and you need to find childcare/have day off work, and wont have sick children

nannies may get ill and you may need to find childcare/have day off work, but they will look after sick children

so all 3 childcare settings theres a flaw tho in order of reliability i would say

nurseries
nannys
cm

Nurseries do get ill. I've known them to close either partially or fully during epidemics.
Using a term like "unreliable" to comment on one aspect of the care - a child's sickness - is ridiculous and provocative.

Personally, I think minderjinx is spot on when she says this thread has more to do with attracting potential clients than with the sick child.