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Paid childcare

Discuss everything related to paid childcare here, including childminders, nannies, nurseries and au pairs.

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Poorly child

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ifmamaainthappy · 20/03/2013 13:49

Child is 14 months, has a cold, just generally not happy, contacted Mom to let her know, that she's not herself, Mom has told me she's got to much to do to collect her at the moment??? What do you do??? i can't just sit cuddling all day, have others to look after, ( i'm having a late lunch and 5 minutes right now!!)

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HSMMaCM · 20/03/2013 22:04

And I don't get paid for my sickness or holidays.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:05

that's good then Outraged, we got there eventually...

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:05

See that suprises me HSMM about the duvet day thing. I'm not judging, I'm just suprised. It's very different from nannying.

LingDiLong · 20/03/2013 22:07

I hate the attitude to childminders on here sometimes, I really do .

Childminders are NOT unreliable. I've been doing this a year now and have had one day off sick in that time. I don't charge for my holidays.

And it isn't about calling a parent to collect a child who 'just' has a cold FFS. Stop being so disingenuous! I'm starting to think this thread is just an excuse to give childminders a kicking. Thank God for my lovely parents who respect what I do and are happy to work in partnership with me rather than just demand I do exactly what suits them regardless of whether it's best for their child or the childcare setting their child uses. I'm beginning to see just how lucky I've been so far.

mrsthomsontobe · 20/03/2013 22:07

My daughter wasn't in childcare at the time she was with me so don't no If few hours would make a difference. Think it was more to do with her age, the not eating snd drinking, as they explained a child getting a urine infection is not the same as an adult. You don't just get antibiotics and sent home. She was about 12- 14months at the time. A urine infection can cause damage in young children and they then need follow up appointments to check for tissue scaring /damage.

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:07

'that's good then Outraged, we got there eventually... '

Yes!! Thank goodness. You've finally managed to read what I've written 4 times on this thread.

well done! I feel like it was all worth it now.

With practice you could probably get in 3, I reckon!

HSMMaCM · 20/03/2013 22:08

What's the surprise? He had a stinking rotten cold and could not take part in the normal activities in the morning, but we were home in the afternoon, so he could snuggle on the settee while the other children put on puppet shows etc and his Mum made her conference call.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:11

its any excuse on here LingDiLong to put childminders now. Nannies seem to think they are superior, those that use them think they are getting the better option too (because they pay a lot more for them...) what they fail to realise is most cms have been nannies already and are also mothers with years of experience under their belt.

There is a lot of snobbery around childminders. Its horrible. I don't charge for my holidays, my sickness (not had a day sick in errm, around 5 years or so!) or any time i am off with either of my ds. i work bloody hard for minimum wage, 10 hours a day, 5 days a week most weeks of the year, but yes, you are right, any excuse to give childminders a kicking on here!

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:11

Ling childminder's themselves are not unreliable, but it's an unreliable form of childcare that cannot accommodate a sick child. The same as nursery. Children get sick all the time. We all know this. I can't reliably send my child there and rely on the childminder to keep them for the full day because if they're (slightly)sick and can't join in with activities I have to leave work to collect them.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:12

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OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:14

HSMM being a nanny it's very much about facilitating the parents going to work no matter what. I thought (wrongly I now know) it was similar with childminding. So, in your example we would have all had a duvet/film day to accommodate the sick child, rather than preventing the parent going to work. I'm genuinely suprised.

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:16

'god what an unpleasant person you are Outraged. Really, really nasty.... '

Yes, I've been vicious and personal about you, while you've been lovely and polite. Oh no.....hang on....let's read back....yep it's you that's lobbing insults.

catkind · 20/03/2013 22:19

See, if our CM called to say baby was not herself, I'd say, OK, she's got a bit of a cold I know she's a grumbly, I'll see if one of us can leave work early. If I wasn't busy I'd collect immediately anyway, if I was I'd probably comment to that effect. (Well, in fact she'd be calling dad as he's the one that works locally, but if for some reason she called me...)
If CM called us and said baby's not well she needs to be collected we'd make sure someone got there as soon as possible.
Could it be a misunderstanding between OP and client, and client thought OP was just calling to inform her? May just be the way you phrased the post tho OP.

LingDiLong · 20/03/2013 22:20

Outraged, that isn't how it was put by the previous poster - as well you know. Her exact words were 'all parents know childminders aren't reliable' before making out that we all charge for own holidays. The very clear implication being that we're a bunch of unprofessional, money grabbing, lazy cows.

I have never worked so hard in my life as I have in this job.

I hate letting people down and was a working parent after my first child so I understand how much parents dread getting that phone call from a childcarer to ask them to collect an ill child. But the way in which people are deliberately downplaying what the OP said again and again is actually pretty depressing. It suggests an inherently negative attitude to childminders; the assumption that we send a child home with the merest sniffle while chuckling to ourselves as we pocket the full day fee.

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:22

'Outraged, that isn't how it was put by the previous poster - as well you know'

Sorry I thought that comment was to me, because I'd said childminder's are unreliable earlier on. What I meant was, as a from of childcare it is unreliable.

Fightlikeagirl · 20/03/2013 22:23

Outraged, surely the reason that a nanny can accommodate a sick child is because her other charges are siblings of the ill child?
Us cms have children from different families and I don't think parents would be impressed ( and rightly so) if their child had to miss out on going on outings/ activities etc because I was l

HSMMaCM · 20/03/2013 22:23

Outraged ... unfortunately the other 5 families did not want their children stuck inside all day accommodating a sick child and the parent of the sick child was more than happy with the compromise that was reached, as I have never sent her child hone sick in the past 3 years.

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:24

'The very clear implication being that we're a bunch of unprofessional, money grabbing, lazy cows.'

I don't think this. If you look at my previous posts, I've always included nannies/childminders as one. I always advise parents to use a nanny or childminder instead of a nursery. I always tell them it's better value for money for one child to use a chilminder. I'm not bashing childminder's. I am suprised at the approach to dealing with sick kids though.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:26

this thread is just going round in circles - Outraged clearly won't let it go, even though she has admitted she didn't know how childminders worked until now....

LingDiLong · 20/03/2013 22:27

There are also days when you couldn't have a 'duvet day' if you wanted to what with school runs etc. I had a poorly boy with me on Monday and the school run was horrendous, I had two schools to pick up from and he broke his heart the whole time I was out. Luckily his mum didn't send him Tuesday as she recognised that he really wasn't well enough. He was just 'not right' by the way, not a temp, not d&v but very, very unhappy even after a dose of calpol.

Fightlikeagirl · 20/03/2013 22:28

(Whoops too soon ) ..... Was looking after a child who was too ill to join in with normal routine.
There are lots of differences with having a nanny or childminder. Pros and cons for both.
Definitely feel childminders are getting a bad time on MN at the moment.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:29

i would never have a duvet day - i am being paid to do a job - not have a duvet day! if a child needs a duvet day, it won't be at my house!

Mrscupcake23 · 20/03/2013 22:29

I don't think Leeds is bashing childminders. Reets post made me laugh out loud . Giving out personal insults is really really nasty.

OutragedFromLeeds · 20/03/2013 22:29

I see that now Fight and HSMM believe me I'll be muttering 'sick child, childminder, NO!!!' in my bloody sleep.

I understand the other children from different families would miss out, but I thought that the parents would be understanding because when their child needed a duvet day/was sick they wouldn't have to take time off either. I think if you're using group care, you have to accept you can't have things all your own way. I WRONGLY assumed sickness and duvet days were part of this.

ReetPetit · 20/03/2013 22:31

did you read the post to which my post was in answer to MrsCupcake?? it was sarcy and horrible and i didn't appreciate the tone, hence my post. Sorry if anyone thought it was ott, i will ask to have it removed - but i don't appreciate someone trying to belittle me in that manner.

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