hmmmm parents home late again and my son 10th birthday hmmm

[happychappy]

not happy

Did they explain why they were late?

He was on a cnference call on his mobile, thats it

I think you should spend the rest of the day (apart from lookong after yourself!) finding another job.

These people, like Heswall, are inconsiderate employers.

People like this seem to have no idea that they are employing somebody. Treatment like this, and the manner Heswall alludes to, are redolent of slave conditions, not appropriate conditions for an employee!

Flexibility is an admirable quality, but you are being taken for granted and this is being massively exploited.

They evidently don't care about you or your own situation.

People who treat their nannies like this make my blood boil.

Oh, and ignore comments here about what you were doing being on MN! Bibbity can't work a 24 hr clock and others who made such comments have no idea of the realities of your day.

Good luck to you, and i hope you feel better soon.

Why couldn't one of them come home without the other, btw?

they go and come in the car together. In my contract it say I should work without a 12 hour gap. This rarely happens. As I say time to move on.

Sorry not feeling good. Its affecting my typing. It should say shouldn't

Stupid. If he had to stay late then it should be up to him to get himself home and she should come home without him.

And even worse, if he was having a conference call on his mobile then he could have continued it in the car or had it at home! That call will have had to be arranged in advance, I'll bet, so he would have known that he was going to be late and should have alerted you to that and given you the chance to make alternative arrangements.

Are the new to employing nannies?

I understand where you are coming from and sometimes we do need to just have an anonymous rant.

I love my job, the parents are nice and we get along well. We have the same childcare ethos, they always back me up with discipline with the children - discussing ways which we, as a team, can tackle things. I have autonomy over my day - I can plan activities and menus as I see fit. They pay me on time. They were flexible when I needed time off for 2 funerals in 2 weeks A lovely job and I enjoy going to work.

BUT, they are not very good timekeepers and it does rankle. You feel as if your own time is not respected. I had the same as you where they would telephone 10-20 mins after they were due home to say they were running late. In one month mb only got home on time on 4 occasions. I just think my employers don't realise that although a nanny is flexible and won't mind the odd late finish time it should not be the norm - in my last 2 jobs I could count the late finishes on one hand. Most lateness is ½ an hour or less so I would feel petty to bring it up but when I had to ask to finish on time one evening as I was going out with a friend I realised it was time to say something. Things improved for the next month, but have slipped back again (though, fingers crossed, the last 2 weeks have been good). If they are going to be late I do now get a phone call before I am due to have finished

You can still enjoy a job and have no plans to leave but still have one aspect you need to have a good old moan about and as happychappy says; better to do it on here than take a bad mood home with you or speak out of turn with your employers.

I agree and yes they are. I think they are going to go through a few.
I'm having a moment and thinking do I really want to do nannying any more given this and all the general rubbish that goes with it. I love working with kids but am not sure I can feel so insecure about my work. I know I'm not really up for working in a nursery, perhaps a school but then I won't get paid during the holiday. Really I have another 2/3 years and then I'll have my degree and can start something else, a new chapter but until then what. I chose to work as a nanny so I can be there fore my kids when they need me but as yesterday shows they are really getting the short straw.
I hate feeling poorly and really hate being grumpy about things I'm not really sure how to change. I'm usually such a positive happy person but feeling really out of sorts at the moment.

I'm sorry you're not feeling well Happy. I would also say to a nanny wanting to re establish rules that that is the job like it or lump it. Whilst i do not expect to own people I do need a wife for want of a better description (i'm female and have a husband but a wife is what I need) and that is why we pay a premimum for a nanny. If it suits you better to have a lunch break and be out the door at 5 on the dot try working for a nursery but you know yourself I am sure that you'll get the bare minimum and minimum wage too.

You pay a premium for a nanny? So basically you pay more for your nanny than any other nanny employers just so you can come home late and when she complains about working unauthorised overtime you can say "tough shit"? You obviously have more money than manners.

Heswell and theHamish are persuading me to leave this type of work. When did you 2 crawl out of the dark ages? I work more than 60 hours a week on a normal week, what other jobs expects that? Its less than £8 per hour if you work it out? Wheres the premium. If I was in another setting I would be paid more than that given my experience/qualifications and abilities and wouldn't work 40 plus hours and have breaks. That 60 hours is normal hours when they are ON TIME. Heswell and TheHamish I don't mind the odd 20 mins every day BUT 90 minutes on my son birthday gets my wick. Not being able to take my husbands 40th birthday off gets my wick as does not being able to look after him when he comes home from hospital. I really hope you are trying to inflame. Heswell I hope you treat your husband better and with more respect and it's not 5 it 7.

It's rubbish, sorry OP. I think people forget one has a life outside of their own often.

I am a CM and gave notice to a family in Jan - love the little boy but his parents have no sense of time keeping... drop him off early and arrive late EVERY day. Traffic always the excuse... how come all my other parents are on time? I find it rude and evasive - I have missed 3 evening events and have been late to others due to them. They don't care, never mind how gushing their 'sorry' is every single day. So that's that. A shame as I really love the little child but his parents are too disrespectful to allow for a good working relationship.

??? HappyChappy, my comments were directed towards Heswall, I was agreeing with you.

It doesn't matter what you are being paid... top dollar or minimum wage.. if your employer/clients are not respecting you with timekeeping etc., it's RUDE. Heswall's attitude is why I gave notice to clients this week. I care for their child 10 hours a day (contracted), why on earth should I assume I must just suck it up and add another 20 mins to 1.5 onto that every day..? No way.

It's about respect.

Op, find another job, there are plenty of lovely people out there who need nannies who actually do think of others before themselves and treat people right.

I agree with ThaHamish.

Sorry The hamish v.touchy and misread the post, reread and understood it wrongly. Sorry.
Thank you all.

Going to stop wallowing now have a shower and try and be perky for the little man. I need to have a good think and work out wheres my next step but not in the wallowing way I am at the moment.

OP, I think you misread TheHamish's comments - she was actually on your side.

Heswall I count my lucky stars I don't work for you. Your attitude to "the staff" is appalling.

She isn't a slave, she is just a nanny wanting to set some COMPLETELY reasonable boundaries about going well over contracted hours and refusing holiday time that is owed .

If you're the kind of person who would say "like it or lump it" to that, then I shudder to think how many nannies you're going to plough through to the detriment of your DC and consistency in their lives.

Heswell what line of work are you in may I ask?

Grrr, seems like this family, and heswall, should have a day nanny, a night nanny and a weekend nanny, then they can be as frivolous as they like with other peoples time....i wonder how the little children feel when the parents regularly put other things ahead of getting home to spend time with them...things happen of course, but to do it regularly shows poor command of time and priorities.

You are taking this way way too personally, it's nothing to do with respect and everything to do with the way the world of work works these days. Your employers should communicate with you, of course.
However i make it very clear when i interview that there will be days like today when my nanny can come in late or go for a coffee and that will be fine. There will be other days when I will be stuck in theatre and if that happens to be a birthday I have to stay until the end and so she does too. And I cannot always call home either.

It has everything to do about respect. Sadly, many put work before their family. Priorities are all wrong. A BIG reason I gave up a VERY good job in the publishing industry years ago and became a CM... so I didn't have to put up with the 'Your job is all important, you are not allowed a life' mentality. At least now, being self employed, I can rid myself of clients who put their job ahead of their child's welfare. Poor kid. Were it once in a while, no problem - life happens... but ALL THE TIME... no way.

Lucky old you, perhaps the poor kids parents were trying to keep a roof over his head and hopefully they've now found a more understanding childcare provider.

Can I put the other side of the argument without everyone jumping down my throat.

It's a long time since I had to use childcare but when I did:
-It was a lot of money. You don't earn the sort of money that pays for a nanny by doing a 9-to-5 job. You had to have responsibility or commute or, basically, have (for want of a better word) an 'inconvenient' job that sometimes involves having to stop on to sort a problem or getting caught in traffic. The sort of job that makes it more likely that you will be late home.
-The chances are that, at the stage where you have young children, you are still trying to climb up the career ladder, still having to impress people and make your mark. It is one of those ironies of life that I now have the authority to say "clear my diary, I'm having the afternoon off for a nativity play", now that I no longer need to. Back in the day, I wouldn't have dared to be so bold because it could have impacted on promotion.

What I'm trying to say is that employers aren't always in control of their day. They don't want to be home late any more than nannies do!