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hmmmm parents home late again and my son 10th birthday hmmm

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happychappy · 02/02/2012 18:54

not happy

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rubyslippers · 02/02/2012 20:28

I shocked they don't want to pay for over nighters ...

hohohoshedittant · 02/02/2012 20:35

'But how does the Op know they're not hours away!!
Any one can make a phone call and say 'Im half an hour away'

True, but unless they're really nuts they wouldn't phone and say they're half an hour away of they were hours away.

'And why should a 10yr old have to understand his mums gonna be late on HIS birthday'

He shouldn't have to, but he will have to because the OP needs to do what is in the best interests of her charge and that is leaving him asleep in his bed and not dragging him out in the cold.

thirdfromleft · 02/02/2012 20:36

Heswall demonstrates perfectly the attitude of 'why should CMs/nannies have their own life'

Which I think is the root cause behind the behaviour that the OP is having to put up with

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/02/2012 22:01

personally as soon as i would have got the first phone call i would have wrapped up charge warmly and driven to my own house and then been there for my own childs birthday dinner

yes obv your employers are wrong to do this but you could have done the above and made life easier for you

Heswall · 02/02/2012 22:10

I would hope the employers will have a good explaination for their lateness and no it's not ideal, but equally it's why they employ a nanny over say a childminder, for flexibility.
And pay a premium for the service.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/02/2012 22:12

theres flexibility and theres taking the piss!!!

you dont ring 10mins AFTER you are meant to be home and say you will be late

you ring as soon as you know you will be late, ie if not leaving the office at normal time/trains running late etc and you grovel and apologize

Heswall · 02/02/2012 22:18

No typically bosses don't grovel under any circumstances, they may apologise if they are wrong but if you are expecting anyone who pays your wages to grovel to you, you'll be disappointed.
They should have earlier of course, shit happens though.

NoWayNoHow · 02/02/2012 22:21

heswall the difference between a CM and a nanny, besides some EYFS issues, is location location location (and dedication to one or more children in the same family generally). A nanny is employed for certain hours in a week - they aren't generally employed "for flexibility". If the parent is running late, they should be calling the nanny the second they know they aren't going to be home at the contracted hour.

You DON'T leave it until after you're already meant to have been home, and this is especially poor form considering it's the nanny's DS's birthday and the parents know that.

Even if they have the best excuse in the world for being late, they have NO excuse for not contacting the nanny earlier and therefore giving her the opportunity to take her charge back to her house and spend her son's birthday with him.

hippoCritt · 02/02/2012 22:26

How old is your son? Hope he will not be in bed by the time you get home, dreadful behaviour made worse by late notice, hope you get to enjoy some time with him when you get home.

NotYetEverything · 02/02/2012 22:31

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Heswall · 02/02/2012 22:35

I employ a nanny and am understanding if they need time off for unexcepted things cropping up, happy for my child to go along to appointments during working hours if absolutely necessary. The pay off is if I am running late she stays until I arrive home.
I do however pay her for her time and do not expect to be bitched about whilst the meter is running on an internet site. Unprofessional IMO.

hohohoshedittant · 02/02/2012 22:37

Everyone gets annoyed and bitches about work sometimes.

I would have thought anonymously on the internet was better than to someone who knows you/your child.

TheCrackFox · 02/02/2012 22:39

I think she should just look for a new job. They sound like a pair of selfish arseholes.

Xmasbaby11 · 02/02/2012 22:42

It sounds unreasonable behavior, but maybe when they come home, you will hear the parents' side to the story.

bibbitybobbityhat · 02/02/2012 22:42

Am intrigued by the idea of a 3 year old asleep at 5pm. That's a terrible time of day for a 3 year old to sleep isn't it?

NotYetEverything · 02/02/2012 22:44

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hohohoshedittant · 02/02/2012 22:44

She posted he was asleep at 19:27, that's 7:27pm.

Where did 5pm come from?

RitaMorgan · 02/02/2012 22:47

Where did you get that the child was asleep by 5pm bibbity?

bibbitybobbityhat · 02/02/2012 22:48

Oh yes! I'm absolutely rubbish with 24 hour clock times Blush.

Not too good on east and west either but at least I can do left and right (unlike dh).

hohohoshedittant · 02/02/2012 22:51

lol fair enough!

wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 02/02/2012 23:07

Heswell. You may pay your nannies.wages but you do not own her.Jeese people with your high and mighty attitude certainly show yourselves up to have no reality of life .

happychappy · 03/02/2012 04:12

Goodness, well I'm up at 3 because I am really bothered by the going ons of today. I wrote on here because it was that or open my big mouth and it coming out all wrong.

I am a very professional childcarer. He was asleep what work were you expecting me to do after the toys have been put away the house tidied and their dinner cooked, dishes washed and put away, chicken put to bed. Scrub the floors, sit and watch the TV trying not to crease the sofa. How many of those who called me being on the internet have NEVER used internet in their office? How many who have called me on bitching and never botched about their work. I just can't ring a friend so have done it annoymously it order I don't go home and sit in a foul mood with my family because I have steam coming out of my ears.

Just probably I was being a bit of a martyr but

  1. as a nanny I'm in a very vunerable position, I need my reference so have to be very careful what I say and how I say it.
  2. I was putting the 3 year old innocent first as he has done nothing wrong, has a flithy cold and really should be in bed not out in the cold.

My son was cool I think but I am very disappointed this is the first time I have ever been not around for his birthday. I have always taken the day off but it was made clean no time off until end of March (even though I have 5 days leave which I haven't used (not including overtime) to be used by 1st March. My husband was in hospital for a day last month I was fannied about so much about the day off even though I told them early December I needed that day off. I knew I had the day off after I had taken him to hospital!!!!

I don't might flexible, adaptable. I cool with the whatever approach for the most part BUT my family stuff that is known about way in advance and I try to plan for and then is fucked up I really am NOT cool with. I don't think I should be expected to be cool with. If the shoe was on the other foot that most certainly would not be cool with me and I would looking for another job.
Respect goes both ways and I am rapidly losing both patience and respect for them and the situation. I do above and boyond what is expected of me (including trying to fix electrics because the system blew again) but have pretty much autonomy in terms of how I do my work. Again there are benefit in this position I probably wouldn't get elsewhere particularly in this climate however the payoff doesn't always work.

I was planning to used my annual review at the end of February to reestablish the rules of ours relationship fully expecting them to want to change some things too. However, I am increasingly feeling that perhaps they need a mother/family member who is prepared to drop everything at anything time in order to accommodate their needs and wants. I can't see many other people staying very long in this job with the demands of it.

I have discussed this with DH and orginally agreed that the best road forward was to wait to the annual review and reestablish acceptable expectations. However given the last 2 weeks I can't see me not blowing my top and saying thank you but heres my notice. (Something I really can't afford to do). My DH feels perhaps nows the time to look for another role but I feel very attached to my charge and he is going though a really insecure stage and don't want to make that worse for him but my family are also suffering because of my work. I feel very torn.

Another reason for holding back on the conversation is I am very worried they will just say thats the job like it lump and I will say lump it. Thus turning into a very negative situation and at worse I then have trouble finding another role because of loss of my good name (something I have worked very hard for).

Hmmmmm what to do what to do.

PS those that seem to have a problem with me not working at 7.15 when officially I finish work at 7 having started at 7.30 in the morning. I assume in your job you have a lunch break? Coffee break? Are not restricted to where you can go during working hours? Don't have to have a mobile phone on you AT ALL TIMES? Can mostly choose if you've had enough and want to go home? Can choose ALL you holiday within reason ( I have chosen 10 days of which I ended up going in on 3 day of). nannying is a very reasonsible job which you have hugh restrictions placed on you not only in your own time but also free time (I saw once a mother on here her nanny smoked in her freetime; please when was slavery introduced). There is an increasing amount of disrespect to those who choose to work with children. I choose to work with children because it is something I am good at, trained for and actually like. BUT as most people who do this kind of job its the parents not the children who make it a great or just awful. Before responded I have not attacked anyone personally and was using this forum to rant however some people have been rather personal and unpleasant. I'm not looking for agreement but it would be nice before responding a tone of respect is used and understanding that I was when initially posting very very cross.

PPS I don't need or want grovelling just consideration as a human being and mother myself.

Ok phew got that off mychestSmile

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wakeupandsmellthecoffee · 03/02/2012 07:10

Well ať least its the weekend.

franke · 03/02/2012 07:23

To be fair OP nearly everybody on this thread posted supporting you and agreeing that your employers were out of line on this occasion.

I hope you find a solution to this.

happychappy · 03/02/2012 07:34

woke up with a massive temperature and rang to say wont be in at 7.30 as need to take some medicine before coming anywhere near anybody and has got the shakes and feel sick. They're aren't happy. They needed to leave early. Least I gave them 1.5 hours notice and am still going in regardless of how much I want my sofa and Tv and duvet. And wake up yes its the weekend which will be spent looking for another job.
Anyone want a nanny in the Essex/Hertfordshire/Cambridgeshire borders area? I don't usually moan like this honestly.

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