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Passive Birth !!

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mogwai · 12/06/2005 22:16

Ok, so I know there's all this stuff about "active birth" and yoga, meditation, releasing your natural endorphins and riding on the crest of your waves of pain.

I really admire people who have the courage to embrace an "active birth"

Personally I feel that advances in medical technology have allowed me the luxury of wallowing in my own cowardice and I want all the pain relief I can lay my hands on.

Should I strat up a "passive birth" centre to advocate us cowards having as little as possible to do with the whole process, a random selection of cream cakes and DVDs in the delivery suite and a full bikini wax under epidural?

Who's up for that??

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serah · 30/06/2005 21:16

hmmmm... all quiet on the mogwai front. My 27p is safe it would seem. Muhahahaha....

mogwai · 30/06/2005 22:20

possibly not.......

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serah · 01/07/2005 00:13

doh.

and me being so sure.. I've already spent my 54p from you both. Any chance of a loan??

mogwai · 01/07/2005 01:17

hang on....

Contractions every 9 minutes, getting stronger. Have phoned delivery suite, they think I sound genuine.

You will be sooooo proud of me, passive ladies. In the last hour I have showered and straightened my hair, put in my earrings and set the dishwasher off. Not to mention coming in to the Passive Birth Centre (out of hours!!!!!)

The race may be on.....then again, I've lost all faith in my body recently...

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serah · 01/07/2005 09:43

yay!

highlander · 01/07/2005 11:22

fingers crossed for you moggers - the passive birth centre has had me in stitches over the last few weeks!

serah · 01/07/2005 15:33

Hello Highlander!!..... YOU said you were going to try teething gel beofre a wax at the beginning of July (glances calendar-wards)
and that you'd keep us posted..... WELL?????

highlander · 02/07/2005 10:40

aw, I've only been back in the UK 5 days - give me a chance! Sadly, getting the house in order is a priority over getting my tush sorted

Next week - I promise.

Have discovered extra sticky teething gel as well....

serah · 02/07/2005 20:05

soooo... let me get this straight..... you went on holiday BEFORE tidying your tuppence? Spider legs ahoy??? (Takes a contemplative sip from cappucino and wipes froth from moustache thoughtfully...)

kgc · 03/07/2005 00:55

Fuck about with this thread....have we not lost the subject of it.....

highlander · 03/07/2005 09:31

noooooooooo Sereh, I've returned to the UK after living overseas for 18 months. Too stressed to 'groom'.

Yes, very much spider tush

Anyone heard from Moggers? I hope she's not working too hard

serah · 03/07/2005 15:37

Ok, you're forgiven then Highlander

Erm, no, kgc..... actually, we haven't, but even if we had, we're all too passive to care.

Haven't heard a peep from either mowgli or snakebelly. They must be having a weekend at a health farm somewhere....

monkeytrousers · 03/07/2005 18:30

Hi, sorry haven't read all the thread but just wanted to know if an epidural is supposed to take all the pain away? I had dia-morphene and an epidural an hour later. It worked for the contractions but didn't touch the sides when I was pushing him out (with the help of a ventouse). It was absolute agony. Totally agree with Starlover's amputation analogy.

serah · 04/07/2005 17:07

Don't actually know to be honest Monkeytrousers... Mine barely worked at all due to tight timescales so not the best person to ask!! I'm sure Mogwai and Spikemomma will have a perspective on it when they get chance to take a breath, and comment on how relaxed they were during their entire labours, coughed to clear their throats, and out popped the baby..... or not

monkeytrousers · 04/07/2005 19:49

Thanks Serah, Just read the PB manifesto. How very refreshing. I did flirt with the idea of a water birth beforehand but in the moment after being bent double, grunting (the shame!), with my arse in the air for 3 hours before the anaesthetist arrived, I can honestly say the thought never once occurred to me! I can't believe we're thinking about having another one next year. Does the Passive birth centre allow for elective CS? That?s pretty much where I?m heading next time me thinks. If not for me then for my dp. Poor bloke nearly had a breakdown!

morningpaper · 04/07/2005 19:51

hehe I think we should set up www.passivebirth.com

serah · 04/07/2005 22:43

Oh yes, not only elective caesareans, but we've even broached the subject of general anaesthetic, in, ahem, general.

My bloke didn't have time to have a breakdown. He just stood there pespiring slightly and backing off every time I tried to take a swipe at him when he approached with the gas and air mouthpiece..... Not exactly passive. I am an honory member of the PB group only because I wholeheartedly agree with its principles and defend it against attacks from beanbags, pools and wooden spoons.

I think you're onto something there Morning Paper... that is a domain which is not taken... do you think we could make some money???

beansontoast · 05/07/2005 14:18

ooohhh what a welcome

mmmm,where is everybody?..doing their hair???

xxxx

mogwai · 05/07/2005 21:33

Ahem

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mogwai · 05/07/2005 21:34

Room for a little one??

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mogwai · 05/07/2005 21:34

E-P-I-D-U-R-A-L

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fruitful · 05/07/2005 21:45

Mogwai! Get that birth announcement up then! Did you get to be passive?

serah · 05/07/2005 21:54

goddam Mogwai... first night in forever I get to go out for a pint and you appear when I'm out??? How ARE you doing???

serah · 05/07/2005 21:55

And more to the point, is my 27p safe??

mogwai · 05/07/2005 22:05

Ahoy there passive ladies..I'm back!

SO the labour turns out to be 41 hours, but who cares when you're dosed up to the nines??

Here's the story.

Went into the so called "latent phase" of labour on the Thursday evening/Friday morning, as evidenced by my last entry in the log book (having straightened my hair). Progressive agony throughout the day, lessened only by a TENS machine. Actually found the sensation from the machine slightly alarming (like electric shocks), sometimes I felt it intensified the pain. I only ever had it turned up to eight from a maximum of fifteen.

Presented at hospital, all ship shape, trimmed lady garden (side edgings strimmed at last minute, all weeds removed) around five o'clock on friday evening. Had hoped to avoid rush hour but had a "killer contraction" that almost made my foundation run, so grabbed the bag and off we went.

I was examined by a lovely midwife, but unfortunately, being a passive sort, I had to be given entinox before I could be examined (apparently cervix was very retroverted....what the hell.. a free shot at the gas for starters!). What dismay - only 2-3 cm dilated (though the Chanel nail varnish drew comments, so that was something). Sent home (the shame!) and told to return later in the evening.

SO we had a strange evening - I paced the house grabbing onto anything I could find, contractions every five minutes. Dh watched Jonathan Ross and cooked me a meal (surreal experience of eatng fried rice and having to grab the edge of the table every five minutes). Went back to hospital about 2am (by now saturday morning) to be re-examined - still only 2 cm dilated. Cried inconsolably until midwife gave me diamorphine and found me a bed. More comments on the Chanel nail polish

By 7am I was well drugged up, but this seemed to have done the trick - had got to 5cm. As the midwife examined me and told me the good news, I literally pulled the entinox tube out and shouted "Epidural!!", which rather made everyone laugh.

From hereon in, it was, frankly, a bit of a breeze. The anaesthetist had been primed to expect me (one of our friends is a doctor at the hospital and had told him I was coming in and would be wanting the old epidural), so by the time I got to the delivery room, he was already preparing his trolley (now that's impressive - he was in the delivery room before me!!). Had to sit still for a few minutes, but that wasn't difficult.

TO be fair, the epidural wasn't entirely successful. It worked like a dream until mid-morning (I sat there and put my contact lenses in, and could still get off the bed to use the toilet!), but I began to get feeling in my left side, so the anaesthetist was called back and the whole thing was re-sited.

SO I actually had two epidurals, just for good measure.

When the epidural wore off, I must have been around 8-9 centimetres dilated. I simply could not believe that sort of pain was possible and I have no idea how people go through that without epidural.

Second epidural worked a treat. Seemed stronger than the first (I couldn't have got off the bed withe the second one).It did perhaps slow the dilation down a little, eventually I had a syntocin drip to speed it up. I was fully dilated by 3.45 pm (and would have been watching Live8 but the telly in the room wasn't working). The pushing bit was wonderful. Dh had some classical music on the iPOD with speakers, so whole room filled with Mozart. The atmosphere was very calm, I watched the monitor and the midwife told me how and when to push.

Baby was delivered 45 minutes after I got to 10cm. Most of this was spent waiting around for contractions. No need for forceps or ventouse. Slight tear, couple of stitches.

SO that's the story. I had a little girl Mogwai who weighed 8lb 15oz. She's very very gorgeous and I'll be back to the passive birth centre when I have a minute!

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