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c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 10:39

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

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TheFifthApe · 13/08/2008 13:30

yes

BUT YOU MAY HAVE A VAGINAL BIRTH IF THE BABY ARRIVES BEFORE YOU CAN HAVE A SECTION

sorry for caps but you are not listening

you do need to talk to someone about your fears, the will not try to force you into something (which may happen anyway - see above) but you can talk through all these issues

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:30

thank you Iklboo.

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sitdownpleasegeorge · 13/08/2008 13:31

post c-section you are expected to be out of bed and looking after yourself and baby within 48 hours (a weekend). As with any major abdominal surgery full recovery will be 6 months or so but walking/showering/bathing/nappy changing etc all expected withinh 48 hours.

I went into my elective c-section with a positive attitude and I think this helps tremendously, just as it probably does if you want a vaginal birth and are looking forward to meeting your baby and cuddling/feeding them post birth.

If you do not initially see a consultant tomorrow, there should be one somewhere in the clinic and you can ask to wait and see them before you go home.

jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 13/08/2008 13:31

Agree with FifthApe. You cannot be in complete control of childbirth. It is simply not possible.

LiegeAndLief · 13/08/2008 13:33

I'm with Oblomov on this one. If you go with the NHS, and you go into labour before your cs date, no amount of insisting there will be no vb for you is going to put you at the front of the queue if there are other medical emergencies ahead of you. I had a cs for severe pre-eclampsia when not in labour, I was booked in for 8am and ds wasn't actually born until 17:30 due to emergencies coming in. I wish you the best of luck and hope you get the birth you want, but if you really really really must have a cs you might have to go private as I don't think you can be 100% sure of this on the NHS.

LiegeAndLief · 13/08/2008 13:34

Oops typed slowly, x-post!

Iklboo · 13/08/2008 13:34

My mother phoned me up p*ssed on the morning (7am) I was going in to be induced wailing about how she wished she could take the pain away and how awful it was going to be...

Granted, initial labour pains weren't fun (and, let's face it, you may still getthe labour pains before any CS anyway). Then I had an epidural, fell asleep and had to be woken up to push DS out 4 hours later.

No tearing, no stitches, up and walking as soon as epi had worn off. Home 2 days later and (ahem) at rudies within a few weeks

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:34

agree that a positive attitude helps you through and get over the birth. i have a really positive attitude to cs but if made to give birth i honestly believe it would have a terrible impact on me then and for years to come.
most elective cs go ahead with no early delivery through the v please don't try to scare me, already having bad bad dreams.

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LadyMuck · 13/08/2008 13:35

OK I'm curious - what would you do if you found yourself in premature labour?! Or are you going to turn up at maternity with every braxton Hicks?

msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 13:37

I went into labour before my second cs and still got one. So did friends. I have never known anyone not get one, actually. It's just done while you are in very, very early labour. Most first babies aren't born two minutes after the first contraction, contrary to what you see on EastEnders.
I was pretty fit and well after a couple of days. People absolutely love to tell you how awful caesareans are, I find. Especially, oddly, people who haven't had one!

msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 13:37

I went into labour before my second cs and still got one. So did friends. I have never known anyone not get one, actually. It's just done while you are in very, very early labour. Most first babies aren't born two minutes after the first contraction, contrary to what you see on EastEnders.
I was pretty fit and well after a couple of days. People absolutely love to tell you how awful caesareans are, I find. Especially, oddly, people who haven't had one!

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:37

truely i do not know ladymuck apart from panic. if they could not perform cs. then i'd go home to be on my own i think. end up dying!!!

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jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 13/08/2008 13:38

Positive attitude makes bugger all difference to your birth. And certainly no difference at all to caesarian section which will depend on the skill of your surgeon- as a first timer elective you would be more likely to have someone junior doing the op. These are all things you need to know.

The only time I was marked as someone who had to have someone senior was for my third as they thought it was likely to be complicated. I still had a registrar - although a senior one.

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:39

i know msdemeanor - still think if elective cs is planned i am incredibly likely to get one.

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msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 13:39

I had consultants. The second one was particularly staggeringly handsome. That was pleasantly distracting!

msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 13:39

I had consultants. The second one was particularly staggeringly handsome. That was pleasantly distracting!

msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 13:39

I had consultants. The second one was particularly staggeringly handsome. That was pleasantly distracting!

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:41

attitude has a huge amount to do with things. if someone feels incredibly positive and all goes as well as it can then recovery to bound to be easier - for a vb and cs

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jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 13/08/2008 13:41

Sorry that is bollocks.

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:41

always good to have eye candy!!!

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FioFio · 13/08/2008 13:42

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jimjamshaslefttheyurt · 13/08/2008 13:42

oh I find morphine always aids attitude

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 13:42

there is no need to swear jimjam

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bethoo · 13/08/2008 13:44

there is another thread in active convos ref private cs if you want to have a look Ema i am crap at links!

theyoungvisiter · 13/08/2008 13:44

Ema, I agree that you shouldn't be pushed into a mode of delivery you aren't comfortable with.

But the mners you are getting angry with are just trying to help you see things from the consultant's point of view.

For the consultant to sign you off, s/he will need to be persuaded that you UNDERSTAND THE RISKS OF A SECTION vs a vaginal birth and that the effect on your mental health is such that you are prepared to take those extra risks.

Forgive me, but on this thread you are coming across as NOT understanding those risks. You are contradicting people who are trying to tell you the statistics, and making light of possible complications that can arise from a c-section (both to yourself and to your baby).

In order to sign you off a consultant will have to be persuaded that you understand and accept those facts - otherwise you are not making an informed decision.

It's fine to weigh up the risks and decide that your mental health needs outweigh the physical risks to you and your baby - but trying to brush the facts under the carpet will not do you any good in your conversation with the consultant. You may do better to acknowledge the facts and then explain that that still doesn't affect your decision.

Good luck - I hope you get the birth you want, whatever the circumstances.

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