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c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 10:39

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

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KtBaby · 15/08/2008 11:47

and to weegiemum... hello! lol... but yeah...i know that risks of that! some people will need one more! of corse. thats why im consdering to find somewhere that will let me pay for one if all else fails.

i would have to get a loan mind u! lol
not the richest people alive!
xx

Weegiemum · 15/08/2008 11:49

the kt baby you will HAVE to go private.

No NHS hospital will let you pay to go in front if someone elses medical need is greater. You had better plan to go private from the start, I would think.

KtBaby · 15/08/2008 11:50

no i didnt mean find an Nhs that will let me pay to go in front... ! im not that evil! haha!!

i was just sayin thats all.
Im scared, and it hasnt even happend yet.

bluegreysky · 15/08/2008 11:54

ema76, as someone who is still having problems after a 4th degree tear,and anal sphincter repair op. in realitivly painfree, drug free, natural birth.
it think you have made the best descion.

good luck. hope it goes great for you.

StealthPolarBear · 15/08/2008 11:58

Fair enough Ktbaby if your mind is made up to that extent, just wasn't sure.
Hope you conceive soon and find some coping strategies for if you do go into labour before your CS date. Hope to see you in birth announcements soon!

StealthPolarBear · 15/08/2008 11:59

Sorry, don't mean you won't have a CS, just that you may be in labour first - which you have said scares you. TBH my labour was like period pains for the first 24 hours anyway

LadyThompson · 15/08/2008 12:00

Bluegrey, that's almost exactly what happened to my poor big sister. I am genuinely trying not to scare anyone, and I think traumas like this are comparatively rare (are they? God, I hope they are) but she had a final op last year and she's much better now. But my darling nephew is now 16

Sorry for your DH, Weegie! Sorry all round really, sometimes there's just lots of bad luck all at once, isn't there?

KtBaby · 15/08/2008 12:03

Thank You =]

i just need some help from people feeling the same now

xx

StealthPolarBear · 15/08/2008 12:08

Click on Add new thread in this topic (at top of this page) to start a new thread where you can get people to join you. Be warned though if you do this you may get some of what the OP has endured on this thread...

yummiemumma · 15/08/2008 12:12

ive had three sections and people say to me im too posh to push even tho all of the c sections were for medical reasond=s ad this hurts i would had love to had a natural birth and a so called friend often remarks how much of a failure i am recovery depnds on the person we ll recover a different paces and u have o be careful of ur wound as well i caught nacrotizing facilitis on ds2 and was painful on dd was my 3rd section and i felt so much better . ds1 was emcs cos he was in distress ds2 was elective cos he was breech ad cudnt turn him normally and dd was elective i feel often that im judged

RedHead81 · 15/08/2008 12:13

I wish to apologise for my earlier posts. I just re-read them and they are not as they should have been. I must have been having a bad day (which i know is not an excuse)

It put it completely into perspective when i read StarlightMcKensie's post regarding how people interpret a womans choice:

"A women has the right to make an 'informed' choice of how she gives birth. However, if she then 'chooses' an elective, she is obviously not yet 'informed' enough!"

I had no idea I was doing this, and I hope that all who were offended can accept my apology. I will in future try not to preach to those who are not out to being converted.

Sorry all.

xx

RedHead81 · 15/08/2008 12:16

Ema - I'm glad you are happy now and can enjoy your pregnancy knowing that the birth is how you have planned it. We do all indeed have a right to choose and I'm sorry if I was seemed as though I was undermining your choice.

Hope all goes well.
xx

youcannotbeserious · 15/08/2008 12:23

I think Mumsnet would really benefit from a 'CS' board...

I mean, can you imagine if a woman posted about wanting a certain type of VB and a bunch of the 'Pro CS' brigade waded in???

I appreciate that there are people who disagree with the medicalisation of birth and they do have a right to state their case, but I also think that a woman who has decided on a CS should be able to obtain information without it turning into a huge bunfight...

In today's world, CS is an option for women. again, I appreciate not everyone agrees with it being an option, but it is and we should be able to discuss it without so much emotion.

This isn't a pop against Redhead (or anyone else) - I'm equally guilty of writing posts which I've re-read and thought just maybe a request to MN to have a separate area for CS relating topics.

StellaWasADiver · 15/08/2008 12:27

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LadyThompson · 15/08/2008 12:30

I might be being thick here...but what is the issue then?

StealthPolarBear · 15/08/2008 12:33

imo the issue is some posters getting angry because their unasked for advice is being dismissed or ignored.

LadyThompson · 15/08/2008 12:38

Well...for some people it was a straightforward discussion of cs. For others, it was a discussion about choice, or the nature of phobias, or even how NHS money should be spent. I think that was part of the trouble - people had different points that they were keen to make about different things and frustration set in.

To go back to YCBS's point about a CS board, interesting idea, but not sure it would be so different from this thread as people with views at both ends of the spectrum would be entitled to post there, as MN is of course a democratic site!

fragola · 15/08/2008 13:01

I think a seperate CS board would be a good idea, the c-section board on the babyworld site is much more supportive.

FAQ · 15/08/2008 13:13

lol - all the boards on BW are "supportive" as if you give an opposing opinion it's all to easy to get banned!

LadyThompson · 15/08/2008 13:19

Did everyone know there's another thread going about this thread? I though everyone was reaching a more reasonable consensus of the 'each to their own' variety, but that one is all judgey again. It's so DEPRESSING

FAQ · 15/08/2008 13:20

LT - I'm only judging BW now - a website I've been a memeber of since DS1 was a baby (he's 8 in September)

sitdownpleasegeorge · 15/08/2008 13:51

I know about the other thread and can't be bothered to post on there.

Some apologies have still not been forthcoming and posters are making the same knee-jerk Daily Mail reader judgemental type comments.

I hope that in some way I helped Ema76 have the courage to ask for her choice of birth on the NHS so I feel O.K. about not wading in again in defence of elective c-sections for "personal circumstances" reasons.

Starlight Mackenzie's post says what I've believed for many years now about both elective c-sections and formula feeding.

" LadyThompson I agree passionately that women should be able to choose the method of birthing their children.

However, I have come across many people on MN who would also say this but what they mean is:

A women has the right to make an 'informed' choice of how she gives birth. However, if she then 'chooses' an elective, she is obviously not yet 'informed' enough! "

People are not necessarily unable to interpret/understand the risks as is assmued by so many posters, leading to a wrong or uninformed decision taking place. They have simply processed that information taking into account there own personal circumstances.

I believe it applies to the "choosing to formula feed" debate too.

People deny this is what they mean about informed choice but some simply aren't able to think deeply enough about the issue to realise that we are all different in the risks that we will/won't accept in life and it comes down to personal circumstances and personal choice over risks we are willing to take in our lives.

Your life is not the same as mine what suits you may not suit me and vice versa.

sitdownpleasegeorge · 15/08/2008 13:52

apologies for using there when I mean't their in my last post

bluegreysky · 15/08/2008 13:52

lt, yes it is rare, but is terrible.
glad to hear your sister is recovering now even if it 16 years later.
imho planned cs is the safest way for mum and baby.

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Ema76 · 15/08/2008 14:03

KtBaby I am sure that you will be able to get an elective c-section when the time comes. I did and from your story it is not that much different to mine. If you are refused the consultant has to refer you to someone else, and if refused there you can still move on to a different cons and hospital. Also when you see your midwife tell her exactly how you feel and hopefully with her knowledge she will be able to put you in touch with an understanding and compassionate consultant. I was completely adamant but polite and stated my knowledge of all the pros and cons. If you believe in something enough someone would have to be very cold hearted to refuse. Goodluck Ktbaby

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