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c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 10:39

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 17:55

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thanks for info on list of private hospitals - that's great. decided if it is a no tomorrow i'm going to book a private consultation. thanks again

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MrsMattie · 13/08/2008 17:57

OK, well maybe I'll just leave it then.

p.s. surprised the OP hasn't had enough 'support' ad 'information' by now, especially considering she seems so confident in her decision

RedHead81 · 13/08/2008 17:58

sitdownpleasegeorge

I'm not talking about martyrdom, I' talking about babies being cut by the surgical knife etc.. etc.. of which I have seen the consequences. Private school does not have the health risks i was talking about and comparing it to this is IMO ridiculous. Unfortunately I neither have the money for new clothes each season or gym membership, and certainly not private school, but I wouldn't CHOOSE to do something that could risk my baby's life without good reason. I do not believe that a great grandmother dying in childbirth many years ago is a good enough reason thats all. The op'd mother and grandmother had problems, but they still survived.

Yes there are risks for those who NEED to take those risks. I'm sure they are well aware of the risks, but for those people the risks of a vaginal delivery are higher than a c-section (Hence the reason why they NEED them not just WANT them)

I will stop "ranting" as you call it, but seeing as this is a "discussion" I was just discussing - it seems that if you go against the majority on Mumnsnet or you take a "there there" approach when you feed the OP's exactly what they want to hear then you get slammed for it.

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 17:59

i am just holding out for information i need - private care in wales for cs.

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chapstickchick · 13/08/2008 18:00

i dropped it way back lol in fact i dropped the thread far quicker than i dropped my 3ds which in fact were all c section babies!!!

LadyThompson · 13/08/2008 18:02

I think anyone who posts on here should expect to get a range of views. That's what makes MN so interesting. BUT I just wish that people weren't so fast to tear each other's throats out - that's all. I also think that it's a block to debate and puts everyone on the defensive, whereas people might be more willing to take advice, or at least think about it, if the advice wasn't rounded off with insults. (I'm not saying everyone who has posted is like this but a few certainly have been).

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 18:02

did you take note redhead of the problems i lists for cs and vbirth?

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traceybath · 13/08/2008 18:02

I had two very positive c-sections, one emergency and one elective.

Healed well and breastfed after both.

I think its sometimes difficult for people without phobias to understand just how irrational and horrid they are. I am totally phobic about birds - i will seriously jump in the road to avoid a pigeon. If i felt like that about childbirth i'd want a c-section too.

Should add i did want a natural first birth but it didn't happen that way. But baby was born safely and for me thats what counted.

Good luck with consultant appointment tomorrow.

RedHead81 · 13/08/2008 18:03

Please don't think I was trying to be unsupportive to the OP - i was trying to let her know my feelings that vaginal childbirth is not how it was years ago and that it is far safer now with medical advances. Thats all.

I didn't want to scare the OP at all
Ema76 in all sincerity, I am sorry if i did.

I will not however be changed on my views above.

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 18:06

thank you redhead i won't be changed on my views either. like i listed both have risks, i personally think brain injury through vb is also horrific.

risks to baby in cs
accidental surgical cuts, respiratory problems, not breastfeeing.

risks to baby in vb - brain injury, other birth injuries and brachial plexus birth injury.

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RedHead81 · 13/08/2008 18:07

Yes Ema I did take note of the risks for both, and when i googled the risks for CS i googled for Vaginal too, and yes, both have risks, but I just saw that CS had more than vaginal. All I was trying to do was show that vaginal isn't as it once was.

psychomum5 · 13/08/2008 18:07

this thread has provided lots of reading for me......bored and ill!!!

I have a question tho.....why did you not research all this (regarding CS in wales etc), before you became pregnant???

if I had the fear you have (and not disputing that.....I had the same fear about maybe needing a CS, luckily tho I gave birth 5 times vaginally), I would not have let a man near me UNTIL I KNEW I could guarantee a CS.

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LadyThompson · 13/08/2008 18:11

I'm sure you didn't mean to scare her, Redhead. Trouble is, we all feel hugely passionately about these things...but, sometimes things can come across as a little abrasive. Hey, I know, because it's happened to me! I've said things passionately or even just flippantly and it's offended people on here like you wouldn't believe! But I genuinely try to be a bit more temperate now and I also couldn't give a flying sock how someone else gives birth, it doesn't offend my world view...though I am happy to share my experiences. Hopefully tactfully.

RedHead81 · 13/08/2008 18:12

brain injury and fractured skull can happen both with C-section and vaginal, not just vaginal

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 18:14

psychomum5 - i did my best to and was told i could request a cs and always thought it i was refused i'd pay for it if necessary. lots of people i know have had elective cs so it is not totally out of the question. my concern arises as i want the baby born in wales. i have googled private care in wales manytimes and came across an article saying that you could not pay for an e cs in wales. posted then to see if someone knew differenly but it doesn't seem that they do.

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sherbetdipdab · 13/08/2008 18:14

I'm having a section in part because I had an emergency one only 13 months ago and also because my last was to halt pre eclampsia. So consultant is not keen to go much over 38 weeks with this pregnancy so if I go into labour prior to this I will have a trial of labour but if I don't I will have a section next monday.

I have been so confident of this plan, until the past few weeks when I have felt sad I don't have that 'anticipation' of not knowing when or how its going to happen.

Giving birth is such an emotive subject for women, not matter how you do it.

Funnily enough when I had DS people kept commiserating with me over having had a section but I couldn't see why they felt sorry for me when I had this wonderful, amazing baby that DH and I had made honestly that was all I could think about.

And at the end of the that is what is important.

Nobody really cares about anyone elses births or maybe thats just me.......

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 18:15

oh well thank you for all your messages, regardless of whether i agree or not.

off to have my bath and rub bio oil on!!

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twoboots · 13/08/2008 18:18

your nhs consultant may have a private practice so that would be a good place to start

psychomum5 · 13/08/2008 18:19

ah, I see.

well, I truely hope that things go the way you wish for them to go, but please, some advice (you may ignore me tho, my kiddies seem to)......try to deal with your fears just in case you do end up with some form of labour/contractions before you have your CS. if you expect to feel a few contractions, and know how to cope with them, you should not end up having any panic attacks, which I think is one of your fears???

I hoe also that you get to enjoy your pregnancy........

oh, more advice.......asking any type of question here will get amy type of answer.......ones you want and ones you don't. we are a very fiesty bunch, but very loyal and wonderful too.......

LadyThompson · 13/08/2008 18:26

I agree, PsychoMum5. I've been on threads that have had me APOPLECTIC, to the extent that I've thought about weaning myself off Mumsnet. But the good points far outweigh the bad and I have had SOOOO much support and good info, on an amazing range of topics. And people that you can be daggers drawn with on one thread, can turn up on another where you find yourself thinking "This person is so INCREDIBLY sound..." And I SUPPOSE I'd rather have people's unvarnished opinions...even if it makes me spit feathers sometimes.

I think I am just feeling very reasonable today. G'night everyone. Let us know how you get on, Ema76.

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 18:27

i'll post what happens tomorrow when i get home!

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RedHead81 · 13/08/2008 18:36

Yes, I was just going to say try to focus on enjoying the pregnancy for now and I hope you have what you want and that you don't have any of the complications. Sorry if my comments were abrasive as LadyThompson states. Yes I suppose I am very passionate about this subject and didn't realise how much until now

How about some hypnosis to help with the fear, it may work out cheaper than paying privately for a CS.

Good luck with the bio oil - i used it too (don't look at my belly!!!)

Just looked at Bridgend hospital for you, they have a private section, but don't do anything childbirth related. I did try but like you, can't find anything. Maybe your consultant will know differently.

good luck
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msdemeanor · 13/08/2008 20:27

God this is a nasty, nasty thread. The amount of abuse (arrogant, stupid, selfish, she'll be fucked and serve her right) and the amount of mental cruelty (all the anecdotal horror stories that would be considered totally unacceptable on, say, a homebirth thread the accusation that she wants to hurt her baby, will be a crap mother etc) that the OP has endured is incredible to me. Even her mother has been abused! And she has been so calm and has not said anything even remotely snippy back to any of the people who have been so mean. She's pregnant and has a phobia ffs. A PHOBIA. I doubt any of you would, say, want to give birth covered in spiders, or in a very confined space or whatever your particular fear is.
Leave the poor woman alone. anyone would think she was asking if it was Ok to beat her baby with a stick or if it was fine to strangle kittens, not the best way to achieve a caesarean, privately or on the nhs.
And Ema, ffs, step away now. YOu really don't deserve this.