c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

[Ema76]

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

I say again, if you're offered it, but not because you need it? You should be demanding it, IMHO.

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Can't believe you are willing to risk your child being CUT

Risks to me i could deal with, but willing to risk safety of your child??? FAR SAFER TO DELIVER VIGINALLY FOR YOUR CHILD.

FOR YOUR CHILD

I think people are wasting their breath, here.

VIGINALLY???
LOL
*Vaginally

Stitches caused by vaginal births can get infected too and babies can be permanently damaged by vaginal forceps deliveries.

I knew a boy with the top part of his ear missing as a result of a brutal forceps delivery many years ago.

There was a case of a child whose skull was crushed with forceps in the press recently, I can't remember the exact circumstances but I read about it via a mumsnet link on a thread. I think the doctor wasn't properly qualified or something.

The risk of baby suffering oxygen deprivation in the birth process is much lower in an elective c-section.

lol, I thought you said VIRGINALLY!

I agree MrsMattie.
Sad when people put their own selfish reasons before the safety of their yet unborn child

OP didn't ask for advice about whether c-section was the right route for her. She has already made her mind up. Most of the commentators getting angry with her are doing so because she isn't listening to advice she didn't ask for.

I want a homebirth. This is my first. I too have done the research and decided this is best for me, and my baby. I am not as extreme as Ema in that if I do my best at home and it isn't working, then I will go to the hospital and even have a c-section if that's what is right for my child. But I'd like people to respect my decision to at least try for a HB. Ema's position is different in that she won't consider alternatives, but I still think people should respect her choice to be single-minded about this.

Ema, just go private. Solves all your problems. Yes it will cost money that you don't have, but you then know you'll get what you want and can put your mind at rest.

VIRGINALLY - now that would be impressive (and definately the safer option!)

Not as much fun though

RedHead81 please stop it, you remind me of one of those charity workers in the high street on speed.

She doesn't want a VB, she wants a section.

Leave the poor girl alone.

She's got to do it one way or the other as have loads of other women on these boards and ranting evangelically about the risks is only going to make her scared about having the child in the way she feels less terrified of, too.

I hasten to add that it is not very tactful to the millions of others here who have needed or will need sections for all sorts of reasons. So fgs put a sock in it.

And of course this continues with putting our own selfish reasons of wanting a nice house and a holiday/new car ahead of paying for the best private school fees for the child produced or not buying organic food to feed the little darlings because we want to still be able to buy nice wine each week too or pay for our gym membership/new clothes each season.

Motherhood isn't a martyrdom competition.

Ema having read your fears, it is obvious you have made up your mind, i am sure you will get an NHS cons to agree, remeber you can ask for a second opnion on the nhs.
Be aware that an elective cs for psychological reasons would be regarded as low priority on the NHS. So even if you are given a date you may be bumped (I've seen it happen to women for a couple of days) Also, if you did start to go into labour whilst waiting, they would try to get you in asap, but again if there is clinical need that outweighs yours, you may have to wait (hopefully for not too long). These sort of things are impossible to predict.
Good luck.

in all honesty - for the cs.

Absolutely, Fanlight.

Yes, RedHead. Remind me to tell that to my best friend, who needed a CS for a breech. Technically, that's elective. She could of course have insisted on a VB, which would have been against the advice of all the medical staff. I am sure she would have been persuaded if YOU'D been there bellowing

"Can't believe you are willing to risk your child being CUT

Risks to me i could deal with, but willing to risk safety of your child??? FAR SAFER TO DELIVER VIGINALLY FOR YOUR CHILD"

Like I said above, people give birth in all sorts of ways. Who am I to scream at someone that they are wicked/potentially a bad mother etc etc etc. There's a difference between disagreeing with someone, and abusing them or denouncing them as arrogant just because they don't share your views. This thread is getting ugly, which is a shame. Can't we have a good natured debate without insulting each other? Sheesh...

redhead - risks to baby in cs are accidental surgical cuts, respiratory problems, not breastfeeing.
risks to baby in vb - brain injury, other birth injuries and brachial plexus birth injury.
i know the risks thank you redhead
i had injuries myself when i was born due to forceps and the top of my head now has a flat part due to it

i totally agree ladythompson. i don't understand why women have to tear stips off each other for differences of opinion. it doesn't change things. and what is right for one is not for another

thanks stellawasadiver. i don't want to breastfeed as i am going back to work quite soon and it would be very difficult to do. might try for first 6 weeks but might be easier not to start at all. we'll see

easier for baby i meant too! as it might be kindness not to start and then try to get them onto a bottle. in case i get beaten up for that too and it is interpretated wrongly

Oh FGS, this is juvenile! We could all post up our horror stories on both sides until eternity. The facts are that for most people a vaginal birth is a safer and preferable way to deliver their child (their first child at least). If the OP knows the facts, knows her own feelings, wants a c-section and can find a doctor to do it - what the heck?

There are wider issues here we could debate. I for one think that the c-section rates in this country are shameful and feel 'is it any wonder?' that more women elect for sections these days - it's become a completely normalised procedure when it really shouldn't be, after all...

Regardless, the OP has made up her mind, obviously doesn't give a fig what anyone else thinks. So shall we all just drop it?

List of private hospitals by postcode

I can understand being scared of a natural birth. But I think you should look into counselling whatever route you take so as not to continue to live with such a fear.

Good luck.

yes mrsmattie exactly.

MrsMattie- ema started this thread for support and information, i thought that's what we were doing here.