c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

[Ema76]

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

my mum is far from irresponsible. she would do it all again for me - but i wouldn't want her to.

I have had 2 sections. The first was an emergency and second planned although I fought as hard as I could to be allowed a VBAC, but had to go with the consultants recommendation ultimately.

I would have loved to give birth naturally. I've always felt, rightly or wrongly, that giving birth was part of being a woman. In some ways a right of passage.

I am disappointed to have not been able to do it naturally, and if we do have a third i know i will not be allowed.

So, if you want to know who really wants to give birth?

I do.

I looked after a lady in her early 60's when I worked as a carer, she had a pelvic prolapse.......but had no children, infact she hadn't even been married! Not having had children at all didn't help her.

jimjam - i never brought the stomach issue up! just mentioned that somethings are genetic - can't remember how it came about but someone mentioned about stomach and boobs never being the same either - i just commented that my mums are and i might be the same and hope i am - why wouldn't i want things to go back as best as possible!
mmj - my mum is not irresponsible and she is not here to defend herself so leave her out of it. my mum's story is not the only reason for my decision which has been my decision for 25 years. i have seen videos in school and heard many tales - some good but mosty awful to say the least. i have made my decision and just wanted advise to go about things.

I replied, like many others, as I felt genuinely sorry for you from your early responses, and having had both an emCS and an elCS I thought I could share my story. Then I just got the bit between my teeth as you blithley ignored what didn't suit what you wanted to hear. And further because whenever you have responded to any of my posts, I've had the grace to come back and respond further, which has caused you to respond which has caused me to respond. I think it might be called an exchange, but I might be wrong.

But, RL is calling so I will have to love and leave you now.

I hope that you take full advantage of the NHSs services and you can you can get whatever motivates you into wanting this CS sorted in your mind and that this it has a minimal efect on your child rather than just using the counselling as a stepping stone to get what you want and so obviously think you deserve.

having an overworked registrar that leaves with an overhang for life (unless you pay for a private tummy tuck) isn't genetic.

Dragon- depends on your consultant. Mine was happy to allow a trial of labour after 2 sections.

thank you lackadaisy.

jimjam - we'll see. i'm not sure we're going to have another anyway.

Just hope the same doesn't happen to you that happened to my friend - CS 4yrs ago has left her numb - not just where the scar is either. She can't enjoy sex because she can't feel it. When she climaxes she has no sensation of it at all. They cut through major nerves and caused irreversible damage and that was at the Royal Gwent too.

My other friend had her bladder cut during her elective CS and that has inplications for her now. That was at Nevill Hall.

My great great grandmother died during childbirth too, but back in tose days they didn'y have trained midwives like they do today, and if you wanted a doctor you had to pay for one. My great grandmother died soon after my grandmother was born, but again that was in 1938. It happened then. Did your mother REALLY almost die? Tearing is normal it happens. You may not though - I didn't with either of mine. My first was born in Nevill Hall and my second was born at home.

Piles can happen whether you push or not.
So can prolapse.

Out of my friends, only two have had CS's and those two have complications as described above. The rest have had V birth's (including myself) and NONE of them have problems now.

Sorry, I lied, i just remembered a friend that used to live next door to me and on her daughter, they actually CUT her leg when they cut her open. Her daughter had a HUGE scar on her thigh and had a lump there where she was cut. On a 3yo that scar was 3in long and a good inch thick and protruded a good half an inch or more. She couldn't sue because she signed all the disclaimers. Imagine if that was anywhere on her face - it would have been awful for her (more than it already is)

So thats 3 people i know who have had CS's and they all had problems then and now.

Oblomov - Think you need to re read some of your posts,
'Everyone , please give up on OP.
She doesn't want to know.
Let shope she gets what she wants. because if she doesn't , she'll be fucked.
Which will serve her right'

Nice

Ema76, okay so some of us agree with you and some don't.

As far as taxes are concerned I would say to all citing this that regardless of whether Ema76 has a CS or a vaginal birth it will cost the NHS money which comes out of the taxes we all pay. Tax is a necessary evil.
A CS will cost a certain amount - a vaginal birth might be cheaper but the cost of picking up the pieces of forcing a frightened woman through a labour and vaginal delivery will probably be higher than if that woman has a planned elective caesarean.

Tokophobia exists and the means of helping women through birth exist. For many of these women that "means" will be an elective CS.

I wouldn't rule out counselling though as in the unlikely event that you do go into early labour it may well help you through the period of time while they get theatre set up for a CS. So go to the classes and do all the breathing exercises just in cae you have to put them into practice (and hopefully you won't).

mumforfirst :
I have given lots and lots of advice and support to her. But each time it is snubbed and ignored. She is not listening. No, actually she doesn't want to know.
I am not alone in thinking, as my last post described. I bet you. I bet I am not the only one.
Lackadaisy and I feel the same. We started with lots of sympathy. But that evapourated , with her arrogance.

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I was just wondering, if you go in tomorrow and see your consultant (which you probably won't, it is usually the juniors who do booking in) and he says no he can't sign you off til 34 weeks or whatever, what are you going to do then?
Are you planning to argue or just thank him for his time and go private?

this is what my friend had

i won't argue there is no point in that. i might write a letter to the actual consultant and request a private appointment to see if it is possible. private is difficult in wales and want to baby born in wales. otherthan that yes it'll be private.

life threatening infections????

i'm sorry for your friend rehead. there are complications with both vbirth and cs. i have weighed them up and know what is best for me. sorry if somepeople disagree with that. thank you for responses even if i don't agree. i can accept the disadvantages of cs and am willing to take them.

it doesn't put me off redhead. but thank you.

but are willing to genuinely accept the help with easing your anxieties about VB? If you don't then you will end up passing on your phobia to your DC.

Well, if your mind is made up, good luck and hope it all goes well.

yes i'll do the counselling if i am offered it

but are you going to go into it with an open mind - or just to get the CS which you think will be best for you??