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c-section a must, if refused i'll need to pay, advise on getting c-section on nhs or paying the nhs in wales, or private c-section in wales

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Ema76 · 13/08/2008 10:39

a c-section is a must for me.
i am really worried that i will be refused one on the nhs. if so i have to have options. can i pay the nhs to give me one? really want to have my baby in wales too which restricts me as it seems more private c-sections are done in London.
Does anyone know of a good private hospital in wales (south in particular) and how much it would cost?

Many thanks for your help.

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expatinscotland · 13/08/2008 16:07

'you are never the same again is you get through vb and it is not for me.'

Oh, yes and pregnancy, pregnancy hormones and breastfeeding have no effect on your bits or boobs at all.

Boy, are you in for a very rude shock!

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:07

god I only asked about elective cs in wales, nhs or private!

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FAQ · 13/08/2008 16:08

well I don't know - I can't say I'm noticing that much difference from before - have a fab sex life (sorry if TMI) and certainly have no complaints of being like a bucket....

FWIW - you're never the same after a CS either - I've still got the stretch marks, I've still got the (very ugly - as it got infected) scar, and I've still got the horrendous overhang which doesn't want to shift no matter how many sit-ups/abdombial exercises I've done over the last 7 (nearly 8) yrs.

mumfor1standmaybe2ndtime · 13/08/2008 16:08

Reading this thread with interest. Especially at views on sections.
I am 17 weeks pg with number 2 after having an emergency c section at 40 weeks with ds. He was an undiagnosed breech baby and he was in distress with his heart rate falling rapidly.

I am now considering my options for birth number 2. I can understand the total fear of giving birth 'naturally'as this is how I feel too. I worry now that I will try for a 'natural' labour and baby will get stuck, be breech again, be very large like ds so will have to have forceps and the list goes on!
I do believe that any woman should be able to choose how she wants to give birth. If I wanted a water, home or laying flat on my back birth - it should be up to me.

Jimjam - I have seen a consultant at 12 weeks and discussed my options for birth. Not everyone has to wait to see a consultant until 30 weeks.

Ema76, you have to do what you feel is right for you. You will know after the birth if you made the right decision.

expatinscotland · 13/08/2008 16:08

Stands and applauds youcannotbeserious.

youcannotbeserious · 13/08/2008 16:09

And, (And I can vouch for this) once you've made your choice and have it sorted, you will stop having arguments like this.

THis IS your choice and by goin gprivte, you are not beholded to anyone.

IMHO, a CS is right for you. I wouldn't have coped well with a VB!

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:09

i am not breastfeeding expat - and that it my right too.

mmj - in the 21st century you have the right to choose what is best for you are use medical advances for you.

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FAQ · 13/08/2008 16:11

"I think honestly that if something is a true phobia that you can't hide it from your children. fears are different."

Very true - I have a phobia of wasps - and despite my very best efforts my DS's still picked up very young that I'm terrified of them. This initially displayed itself with fear of any small flying insect - but as they've got older it's confined to wasps and bees (I'm fine with bees). Thankfully their dad and most of their friends are NOT terrified of wasps so (so far) they don't seem to be affected by it as badly as I am. But I was absolutely determined I WASN'T going to let my children know about my phobia - even arming myself with wasp spray and marching "confidently" (actually nearly wetting myself with fear) into a room to "zap" them makes no difference to their knowledge of my fear.

expatinscotland · 13/08/2008 16:11

never said it wasn't, ema, but i can tell you right now your tits won't be the same.

and the muscles down there go very weak from being stretched no matter how you give birth, it's just that you can't work them back as soon as you can afer a csection as after a vaginal birth.

i had a forceps delivery with DD1 and it was even tighter than before.

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:12

mumfor1standmaybe2ndtime - thank you i will and have to can't do what's right for another women only myself. hope that your birth goes well - if you had one cs you have a good case to have another.

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NellyTheElephant · 13/08/2008 16:12

Hi, I haven't read all of the posts so something similar may have been said before, but I wanted to let you know that a great friend of mine had an elective section on the NHS. She and her DH had never intended to have children, but after the initial shock they were happy when she accidentally fell pregnant about 10 yrs after they married, but she was ADAMANT she was not going to have a VB. There was no particular reason (no problematic family history or particular concerns), it was just the way she felt. Her midwife referred her to a consultant, who basically dismissed her, so she asked to be referred to a second consultant (we all have the right for a second referral so if your appointment doesn't go well ask the midwife to send you to someone else). She managed to persuade the second consultant. Basically she was extremely strong about it being her choice and her right to choose and they agreed. She had a lovely happy birth the way she wanted.

I would never have gone down that route as prior to my first I was terrifeied of having a section (although now I've had 2 sections and they are totally fine and all being well I'll be having a third next year!). Good luck, I hope you get what you want.

bythepowerofgreyskull · 13/08/2008 16:12

FFS I wonder why you didn't adopt

you don't want to give birth or for your body to be involved in the baby why not just get one ready made

LackaDAISYcal · 13/08/2008 16:12

I pay taxes...doesn't mean I have the right to demand a tummy tuck or other unnecessary surgical procedure on the NHS, and lets face it an elective CS for the sake of preserving a pristine vag is definately unnecessary.

Fine if you do have a genuine phobia, accept the counselling and acknowledge that it will help with your obviously deep seated issues (be they about childbirth or otherwise), otherwise as someone has already said, get your hand in your pocket and pay for either the section or some vaginoplasty....although you might want to watch Ch4 on sunday before going down that route.

FAQ · 13/08/2008 16:14

muumsfor1st time - just wanted to give you some hope on big babies. Friend (5ft 2) had an EMCS after her DS1 (8lb 10oz) got stuck after nearly 40hrs of established labour. She went into labour for her 2nd DS - and he was born, VBAC, after just 4hrs - and was 10lb 5oz!!! no intervention at all!

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:14

no one knows how their body will be after expat, let's hope i follow my mum and gran - they are in great shape and my mum said her breasts went back to normal in no time. she's a 34dd and still pert at 60!

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Oblomov · 13/08/2008 16:14

Besides, Is OP a TROLL ?
I mean, its a bit late in the day to be investigating this.
She is already in 1st Trimester.
Maybe she should have investigated this prior to conception. Might have been sensible, considering how adamant she is.
When you clearly have a phobia. And have already decided that you WILL HAVE THIS. I WILL HAVE A CS. Despite nature maybe having other intentions.

themildmanneredjanitor · 13/08/2008 16:15

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expatinscotland · 13/08/2008 16:15

my mum's did, too, after me, her second csection.

except for her stomach.

with age, she got a prolapse and pelvic floor issues.

FAQ · 13/08/2008 16:16
Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:16

well actually lacksadaisy if you had a problem affecting you emotionally they do do some cosmetic surgery on the nhs.

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LackaDAISYcal · 13/08/2008 16:16

"i will get what i want for sure"

your arrogance knows no bounds

and fwiw oblomov has every right to express herself using whatever language she chooses.

ilovemydog · 13/08/2008 16:17

Oh, well as long as your breasts are still pert

expatinscotland · 13/08/2008 16:17

PMSL, FAQ!

LackaDAISYcal · 13/08/2008 16:17

FAQ....Lisa Rogers investigating the growing trend in vaginoplasty after childbirth

Ema76 · 13/08/2008 16:18

think itis a designer vagina programme on channel 4 faq.
won;t be watching it.

themildmanneredjanitor - the same reason as everyone else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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