Amanda Holden .....Another one who is..........................

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Too posh to push - its an awful coincidence all these showbiz mums....anyone know her?!!

Why does it matter how she had her baby? Its her choice and only she knows why she makes those choices. She is healthy and so is baby. Thats whats important isnt it? Having a C/S and associated recovery aint no picnic - i dont know why people think having one is an easy option.

So what if she's a (crap) actress/attention seeker/whatever?

Why do you allow it to get under your skin ffs!

Have to ask for info. here. Just to state my credentials : had 37 hour labour followed by emergency c-section.

Right at the beginning of the thread someone, I think, mentioned something about AH having a c-section so that she had nice neat bits and a neat tummy? Maybe I've misremembered that but when my stomach muscles were cut as part of the c-section I certainly didn't wake up with a nice flat tummy the next day. Did you mean a follow-up operation to sort out the stomach or did I do something wrong ? I thought one of the drawbacks of a c-section was that you had to rebuild your stomach muscles all over again and if you didn't know or bother it means your back doesn't have any support because it relies on these muscles etc etc

Apparantly some people geta tummy tuck done at the same time as their c section. I had read though that this was more likely with a second (or subsequent) c section though, as they take away scar tissue from the previous section.

Totally agree with Anchovy - who gives a rat's ass tbh.

there are a million reasons why women choose an elective CS. I don't see why it's labelled as an "awful" birth choice.

The mrsa in the c-section scar was an extra treat! Like any surgery a c-section is not an easy option. It hurts and it leaves you with flabby belly - but maybe these stars can have a tummy tuck at the same time!!!

I think that's the problem, SR. So many of the celebs have a C-section, for whatever resaon, and it's portrayed as something to aspire to. What they don't tell you is that it is a major operation, and the recovery can be very hard for mere mortals who don't have the benefit of a nanny, or mat nurse, or cleaner etc etc.

But if the UK c-section rate ranges between 15 and 30+ % that still only means around 1:6 to 1:3 births, celeb or not, are one. For every AH , whatever her reason, there could be 2 or more "celebs" giving birth normally but just not getting the same press coverage.

I think the problem is that stars who have c-sections are labeled as "too posh to push" giving it a bad name for all of us.

Um, like, who cares?

not even the bit about her picking her toes watching tv expat?

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I don't watch Amanda on TV, allie, cuz I find her annoying. Hence, who cares if she had a C-section?

Seriously, tho, I didn't feel particularly virtuous whilst pushing out both girls, so I don't see what the big deal is about it.

I've had major surgery - not Csections - and felt like I'd been hit by a lorry afterwards, so I don't see how it's seen as an 'easy' way out.

I think it is indecent the way everyone expects to know the details of anyone else's birth. Are there any other circumstances in which a woman would be expected to talk about her vagina / uterus in public? I mean, to people they don't know?

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er twig, you told us about your tidy mott

no, no, it's fascinating hearing other people's birth stories in a gruesome sort of way (although I agree that sometimes there is too much detail. Since joining MN I've learnt parts of the body that I'm sure they never told me about in biology class ). Anyway, I'm sure old soldiers swap war stories/show off war wounds. It's just the same

ahh but no-one "expected to know" I just volunteered its pristine glory

hi can i join? i agree with the sharing of the war stories - it does feel like a battle and half! as for not getting the birth you wanted contributing to pnd, i do think that some of these "professionals" take hardly any notice of a birth plan - especially after i made the mistake of turning round when dd got stuck and saw doc with some scissors.

i crown you queen twiglett, evil parent and fanjita of the year

Not wanting to stand up for AH, BUT I was due to go swimming onthe day I gave birth to my DD. She was a week early.

Accoridng to Hello! magazine, she wanted her DD to be an Aquarian like her, so I doubt she would have planned to have the cesaerian ? Also I did read that if the pain got too much, she would go for all the drugs.

Doesn't matter, she'd have gone private, so she's entitled to what she wants........but I DO wander if she's breastfeeding ?!

BTW I am 17 weeks, I feel frumpy, itchy & have piles - she probably hasn't worked for the last 4-6 mths, has a cleaner, someone to do her shopping & a stylist - she's bound to look/have time to feel good!

I've had 2 natural deliveries so no experience of c-section, elective or not. Have to say labour is not a piece of cake and bloody hurts, and the pain afterwards from stitches, nobody warned me about that, and I walked like a cowboy for 2 weeks afterwards.

But I couldnt never understand and find it completely alien that people would want a elective c-section, surely its major surgery!

BTW I went swimming the day before I gave birth, I was due the next day, but doubted anything would happen when it was supposed to!

By the sounds of it AH HAD to have a c-s, from my understanding you can have a low lying placenta which ends up 'underneath' so to speak at the last min. Perhaps this is what happened.

We are totally our own worst enemies here, FFS I don't particularly like AH, but instead of critising birth choices we should be happy that there is a choice and we don't all die like 100 years ago, OR that we have to pay £100's for an epidural!

i think that any teenager who thinks that it's easy to have a baby should read this thread. i think mother nature has a lot to answer for when she thought giving us hormones to make us think 'babies were all cute and cuddly and why shouldn't we have 3?' was a good idea. i had a bad time having dd cos she was big for me, tore quite badly, and i saw ladies who had cs in pain. so i was going to have an ecs now i think i scared myself reading you lot!