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nickelbabe is resigned to never giving birth

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nickelbabe · 06/12/2011 16:02

there.
part 2 of the "not-live-birth-thread"

How come I can conceive and carry through a pregnancy but I can't finish one?
Confused

No posting until the original thread has ended.
first thread

I am now officially 40+10.

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CarolCervix · 08/12/2011 22:35

schobe - thats fine if the baby needs its life saving. have you never 'laughed' in nervousness/disbeliief?

Figgyrollsintoapudding · 08/12/2011 22:36

Only 275 posts left - come on peeps lets get writing! Grin

CarolCervix · 08/12/2011 22:36

and also Xmas Grin at mimsy. i may need to adopt that one.

youtalkintomeunderthemiseltoe · 08/12/2011 22:37

schobe I discussed this with a friend the other day and actually she said that there weren't many statistics about risk post dates but that it had become more of a fashion to induce at between 10 and 14 days. Nickel has done her research and the dr was being hysterical, she hadn't declined an IOL just asked for more time. Doctors don't like when patients don't do what they are told.

youtalkintomeunderthemiseltoe · 08/12/2011 22:37

Sorry friend who is an Obstetrician.

Pantofino · 08/12/2011 22:38

It is the Dr's job to lay out the risks. Not that they are evil or "bad headmaster" types. I had a transverse baby at 37 weeks and extra fluid. I was hospitalised with daily monitoring to await a CS. This was the best and safest option for me and baby.

On CS day, 39 weeks, baby had gone head down. So now the best and safest option was to go home and await natural labour. I was a bit pissed off, but we went to the pub and got a chinese takeway which made me feel a bit better Wink

At 41 weeks, after several sweeps, best and safest option was to return to hospital for monitoring and induction. DD was finally born at 40+11 under emcs - with me fully out of it. It took a long time to get over the fact I never saw my only child born. I really regretted going for the promised VB that I wanted. I could have had the cs at 39 weeks.

I am waffling I know, but NB, I am worrying that you are starting to put your desire for no intervention before the health of you and ISBN. Dd and I could have died. Dh won't discuss the experience at all even now.

schobe · 08/12/2011 22:40

Oh well, if your friend said it was ok, then it must be.

ShirleyKnot · 08/12/2011 22:41

God yes CarolCervix - please start referring to your patient's mimsy's - that would be ACE! Xmas Grin

TBF schobe, nickel had been monitored - the baby is fine. Banging on about her baby dying is just fucking SHITTY and scaremongering. I'm Shock at your Shock at the Shock that I Shock and the Shock at the Dr's Shock

Grin
youtalkintomeunderthemiseltoe · 08/12/2011 22:41

Carol any tricks to get a baby to engage it's 4/5ths can i just give it a shove?? Need to get this show on the road.

CarolCervix · 08/12/2011 22:43

but nickelbabe isn't doing anything weird or extreme. she's not even 2 weeks 'overdue' yet. She is still within the realms of 'normal'.

CarolCervix · 08/12/2011 22:45

If it's not your first it's completely normal for it not to engage. it might not until labout starts. although swimming up under your ribs is also not particularly brilliant.

CupAndSorcery · 08/12/2011 22:46

TBH - I agree with Panto last paragraph tbh - as i said earlier. I really hope you are 'thumb to the nose' to me in a weeks time after a trouble free home birth - but please don't let your fear / dislike of hospitals put you in any danger....

YougreatChristmaspudding · 08/12/2011 22:46

Ladies - I went in to be monitored at 6 pm, the monitored me, checked, DD2 was still floating freely no contractions over a 2 hour period. They sent me home at 12.30am, got home at 1.15, sent ILs home, called ILs back at 1.45, hospital by 2.45, DD2 born at 3.10am. Things can change very quickly when baby wants out!

nickelbabe · 08/12/2011 22:49

schobe - i was laughing more in shock/nervousness than actually laughing at her - it's a natural, hysterical reactino humand beings have.

same way that I laughed when I viewed my grandma's body - it doesn't mean I wasn't upset when I saw it - of course I was, but it's a situation that you can't believe yourself to be in, and laughter is extremely close to crying in human behaviour. remember the phrase "you have to laugh or else you cry"?

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youtalkintomeunderthemiseltoe · 08/12/2011 22:50

Its my 3rd but MW with pointy finger nails today who booked my IOL and said i had an unfavourable cervix that could not be swept despite 2 previous sweeps last one 2 days ago and that there was no way i was going into labour until the baby puts some pressure on and engages Angry.

ASuitableGirl · 08/12/2011 22:51

I completely understand the nervous laughter thing. Although I normally go the crying route.

Come on ISBN, you could be born overnight couldn't you?

nickelbabe · 08/12/2011 22:52

second schobe comment
I also have a Mw friend who said exactly the same as youtalkin 's Obs friend.

Because the only evidence they have has given NICE its 42 week "deadline", the hospitals go to at least 2 days below that to cover themselves, but there isn't enough up-to-date evidence that 42 weeks is the cut-off, and it appears that gestation might be getting longer. but no one is willing to risk a trial that tests that theory, just in case (because they're dealing with human lives)

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OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 08/12/2011 22:53

My MW decided at about 38 weeks that a home birth was going to end in death for me, the baby and possibly all other members of my household.

Based on?

I was 43
My HB had been slightly low.
It was my 4th birth child.

There was no science, no facts, just her panicking like a big Jessie. She tried all sorts to scare the crap out of me and really stressed me out. She kept referring to me as Grand Multi Para even though it was my 4th birth. Kept going on about PPH although I had no history of bleeding in any of my births.
She said she would be on call if I would go to the birth centre but not if I insisted on a HB. She also suggested waiting till I was in established labour then travelling to the hospital, giving birth and then going straight home. Like I was going to get in the car during contractions and hang about being booked in Hmm. If I was to go straight home after I couldnt see how that would protect me from the dangers of PPH.
Frankly by that point she was the last person I wanted at the birth. She was far too flakey and a bit hysterical.

If she had presented me with facts and real issues I would have had a hospital birth despite my hatred of hospitals. But she was just being a bit mad.

CarolCervix · 08/12/2011 22:54

she was talking bollocks. bloody witch.

nickelbabe · 08/12/2011 22:54

Panto and Cup - did you read my really long post about Dot and being reassured that it's okay for me to still be induced and have a positive labour?

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usingapseudonym · 08/12/2011 22:54

Sounds like you had a similar visit to me in that I was reassured by the fact they could take induction slowly and still be pro natural birth as much as possible!

I've been having fake contractions (I hadn't had them before) but it looks like we're both on the same page still!!

youtalkintomeunderthemiseltoe · 08/12/2011 22:56

pseudo what are you doing here your supposed to be in labour.

nickelbabe · 08/12/2011 22:56

Blimey MrsDV - she really doens't sound like the kind of HCP you'd want at a birth!
she sounds scared shitless!
(not the best under pressure then!)

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nickelbabe · 08/12/2011 22:57

pseu - you might beat me (but yes, it looks like we've been twins all the way through!) Grin

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Figgyrollsintoapudding · 08/12/2011 22:58

Its cos no one wants to get into any trouble should anything go wrong.

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