Grandpa just had conversation in front of my daughter saying no such thing as mermaids or Santa Claus.

[Traceyemc]

I'm so upset with them, they have no filter and I don't see hardly anyone due to lockdown and temporary accommodation being moved around by council annihilated my social life and business.

Just watching a Barbie movie, on holiday my dad said There is no such thing as mermaids and mum said she'll learn. Dad said: like saying no Santa. And mum said oh she'll find out there's no Santa soon too. She's said something just as awkward too.
I'm so upset and she's only four. They're 70 soon.

My next door neighbour told me the same thing when i was your daughter's age.

Needless to say, my mum wasn't pleased.

Do they think she can't hear? Do they often talk about her as "she" in front of her? They sound unpleasant.

What did you say when they said these things? Was your child listening and aware of what they said? They sound horrible.

@Traceyemc - tell her that a lot of grown ups don’t believe in Santa, and so obviously Santa doesn’t come and visit them - but as long as she keeps on believing, Santa will still visit her.

Why is this in Child Mental Health?

Why not?
What section should it be in?

I just hit my mum's arm and made a face to show dismay and disapproval. Sitting next to her and her next to my daughter.

When I spoke to my dad after her said she didn't hear and was too busy watching TV. Yet she's not deaf.

Good advice. I just worry as she's too young not to believe yet I heard other grandpa complaining a neighbour had told his son (6 yrs old) no Santa. I'm worried about trust etc.

mum said oh she'll find out there's no Santa soon too

I just hit my mum's arm and made a face to show dismay and disapproval. Sitting next to her and her next to my daughter.

You hit your mum in front of your four year old child?!

Thats domestic violence. You can’t be hitting your mum, and especially not while she is sat right next to a 4yr old child!

It doesn’t matter how much you want to maintain a fiction about Santa, it’s not acceptable to resort to violence.

My daughter was on the other side and I tapped her arm, pushed her arm, lightly shoved her arm, whatever you want to call it, DV, to get her to notice my face of shock and outrage.

I didn't slap around the face or punch her or threaten to kill her.

FFS. This is not going to affect your child’s mental health. Get a grip. Ask MNHQ to move this to the Parenting section instead.

Is this a joke? Obviously she meant tapping as if to say 'shhh'. Violence? Gosh, some people 🙄🤦🏾‍♀️

It’s not a joke. I can’t help it if the OP says they hit someone and then retracts that and says, oh I did not hit, I tapped.

There’s no need for sarcasm about punching in the face. I quoted your exact words OP.

She said she 'hit her arm' and made a face she didn't punch her mum's face

Just tell her they are inset Santa's didn't visit them last year.

I know! I never said she punched anyone! The OP wrote back to me like I had said that and I hadn’t. I had only cut and pasted her words. Screenshot.

This is the first time I've used Mumsnet FFS, I have no idea what you are talking about, what subject you think is adequate. All you are doing is demeaning.

First time I've ever posted, think I'll try the Samaritans next.

It's something people you trust or are close to, you do, at school / in families etc,..in loud environments, it's a way of grabbing someone's attention, without causing a scene, no one gets hurt. It's just to make them notice you want to make literary a point with your finger or maybe a mouth something.

Anyone know what I'm referring to: non verbal communication that isn't violence?
Or is any contact deemed violation?
Just with enemies.
Or people who want to twist things.
My daughter was on the other side of her on the sofa, she didn't notice. I wasn't talking as if she wasn't there.

And mental health and whatever department someone seems relevant. This is worse than Twitter, full of people who think they know best. Don't think I'll bother with this website again.

This may be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read on here. And that's really saying something.

Yeah, I think the post you've quoted is quite out there even for Mumsnet

OP, I’m sorry I took the word “hit” literally but we do often get posters on here that when they say hit they mean hit. Especially in the child MH department where mums are worried about the effect witnessing family arguments has on their young children.

I meant no offence to you nor did I mean to upset you.

Right now I’m also on another thread where a slap literally meant a slap as in DV.

Evening all. Shall we get the thread back on track, in terms of helping the OP with advice on her Santa issue? @BillaBongGirl has explained that she misjudged her response to the OP so it's probably best for all concerned if the thread returns to focusing on the OP's problem. Peace and love.

Thank you @LivMumsnet
Sincere apologies again OP