your child freedom formula - has anyone tried it?

[lu9months]

ive seen adverts for this on fb. they claim to be able to cure anxiety in young people. im suspicious - and nowhere does it tell you the cost. however im fairly desperate since my 16 year old is very disabled by anxiety. thanks

We've all been there teen

Sunday evenings can be " challenging" in our household sometimes.

No, that doesn’t work. However, you are a human being. With emotions too and a limit. What matters most is that you are aware of that and can talk to your daughter later about it. Maybe you already have done. When I read that Philippa Perry book that everyone recommends, my main take away was to talk about and acknowledge when I was wrong or made a mistake in how I handled a situation. Felt very strange at first. But actually, it’s really helped. I admit that my kids are younger so I’m not sure of how it all goes with teenagers. Hope today is better for you teen. You seem like such a a good mum.

Thanks both. Yes we made up. Not helped by having an appointment for the dentist later today that she is extra anxious about. She does need to go though if at all possible as hasn't been for 16 months and wisdom teeth have appeared.

Ugh dentist. I bloody hate the dentist and cry with fear. I repeat the mantra ‘this will end, this will end, this will end’ through every appointment.

Well, dentist didn't happen. We'll try again in August.

Oh well. It’s not the end of the world.

@TeenMinusTests Yes, not urgent - can wait until she’s ready (ish!).

Is it any use if you don’t tell her in advance, and just go? I know it seems a bit abusing of trust, but I had to resort to this a couple of times - that & sheer bribery.
They just want to look at what’s happening? Not yank them out?

Are they erupted, or submerged?

I would never just go, she needs to be able to trust me. We'd had to give her a couple of bits of bad news over the weekend (prom cancelled and something else more long term troubling) so that is what did for it.

@TeenMinusTests I understand completely - you know what’s possible and what’s beyond. It’s just sometimes I find that if I leave appointment info until the morning of it, for example, dd doesn’t have the time to worry about it so is more able to take a clear decision whether yes or no, without the lead-up dread. (I wouldn’t force anything!)

hi all .the trading standards team have give ycff an oral warning about their claims and have given them written advice. they say if further complaints are made, or if they continue to breach legislation, they will be i consider formal action ( a criminal investigation) though this can take years. if people have ongoing concerns about claims still being made they can contact [email protected]

Well that is an update! Hopefully it'll make them reflect on how they present themselves on social media also, rather than them insinuating we'd rather spend the money on "new kitchens" than on our child's mental wellbeing. Must be all us mum's care about - nice how the dad's get off scot free though

Although it's not doing them any favours, they're getting some ridicule in the comments. If I'd have seen that when considering signing up that "advert" would have 100% put me off, no question. Shows a complete lack of class and professionalism, especially when they profess to care about people with anxiety.

It affects how much is overtly in the public domain, that’s all

That’s good to hear lu I’m not sure how it all works with trading standards. But thanks for letting us know.

Also, I don’t get the new kitchens comment on fb. Has anyone mentioned wanting a kitchen?

It was a weird one. Maybe the "good mums" never spend money on kitchens? But surely the only people that would feel cheated would be those who paid the £5.5k for the programme and had to use the funds out of their new kitchen budget? Makes zero sense, clearly an ill-thought out attempt at an insult. I'm ok with it though - I like my kitchen

Anyone received their legal summons yet?

Thanks for the update lu

I don't really know what to say about the kitchen comments but I agree the ranty Facebook post really doesn't show professionalism

im receiving emails from Kactus Kids anxiety recovery programme but the video is the same woman .

Me too, saying there’s free support but the one I watched just has a little story about giants. Not really practical stuff you can action. 😂

I can't believe I am reading so many aggressive messages regarding YCFF. These are from Mums who have never tried the programme. My children have been through hell and back with suicide, self harming and so on. I won't go into their personal details on here. Camhs have given medication, didn't work. Camhs have said "take a bath" "are you suicidal" "have a cup of tea"
We started YCFF and it is absolutely brilliant. Mums out here you need to try it BEFORE you write these ridiculous messages. We are already seeing a marked improvement in our daughter. NO this is not a coincidence it is because we are part of the YCFF programme.

Gracelands So glad your DD is being helped. Can you tell us any more about the advice you are given on how to handle things? How long have you been on the programme for? What kind of improvements have you seen so far?

@Gracelands - may I ask if you have read the whole thread?

@Gracelands I too am pleased that you are finding this really helpful. As mentioned in a previous post, I haven’t ruled out YCFF for the future but now is not the right time. We have had so many things fail that have been ‘guaranteed’ and each time it knocks her several stages back. Doing nothing is better than constantly failing.
It is the lack of information that is holding me back and some inconsistencies mentioned in the rest of this thread too. Qualifications, DBS checks and how long has this programme been running for a start. Also the aggressive Facebook posts are a little alarming too.
The emails are great at showing they understand our situations and emotions but I don’t find them useful at explaining the process. Mentoring, cocoon and butterfly etc. are used a lot but you never get any more detail than that. I’m sure a few others on here are in a similar position. We are just questioning things which leads to improvements in all areas of life and business, no aggression, just questions.
Let us know what has been the best, most helpful part for you. Again I am so pleased it is helping you.

@Gracelands

I can't believe I am reading so many aggressive messages regarding YCFF. These are from Mums who have never tried the programme. My children have been through hell and back with suicide, self harming and so on. I won't go into their personal details on here. Camhs have given medication, didn't work. Camhs have said "take a bath" "are you suicidal" "have a cup of tea" We started YCFF and it is absolutely brilliant. Mums out here you need to try it BEFORE you write these ridiculous messages. We are already seeing a marked improvement in our daughter. NO this is not a coincidence it is because we are part of the YCFF programme.

Hi Gracelands. Firstly, I just want to say I'm so so sorry you've endured a suicide in your family. I've had this in extended family and it really is the worst thing to ever have to go through

Nobody is knocking parents giving the program a go. What is being criticised is the lack of upfront information available, the aggressive sales tactics, the high ticket method, as well as the extortionate cost for people who aren't qualified. Not to mention the angry FB posts which don't exactly paint a compassionate and professional picture. We can't just "give it a go" without stumping up £5.5k. They say this is guaranteed, but I've not yet seen this guarantee clause. Perhaps you could share this? It would give prospective new clients much more confidence in the program.

Hi Gracelands, glad to hear it's working for you.

I don't have personal experience of how YCFF works so I can't comment on that, however, the things I am concerned about (and I'm not speaking for other people who have posted on this thread) are the public sharing of children's personal and sensitive information and identities, on the website and replies to Trustpilot reviews, and the use of a "high ticket coaching" business model which I feel is totally inappropriate for a company selling a service to vulnerable families.

I've followed this thread almost from the start and there has been very little aggression from posters questioning YCFF. Have you read back through all the posts?

Ps, I'm not sure if anyone has identified themselves as a "Mum", there may well be dads, grandparents, friends etc posting here.