your child freedom formula - has anyone tried it?

[lu9months]

ive seen adverts for this on fb. they claim to be able to cure anxiety in young people. im suspicious - and nowhere does it tell you the cost. however im fairly desperate since my 16 year old is very disabled by anxiety. thanks

Yeh, it does imply that. It’s not what I was thinking about when I was talking about safeguarding. But at least I’ve seen the word written down.

@Mibb2

I wonder what is meant by "safeguarding" here. It's implied that the information has been taken down to protect YCFF customers from 'flappy ears and her friends'?

That syntax is really familiar.

So sorry about the prom.

This wording has changed too:

What on earth is an uplift in safeguarding policy? Never heard of that before.

'uplift' I presume is a word for tightening whilst not trying to show that it was 'loose' before.
I can imagine many businesses using those kind of words. It gives an impression of generally improving without the negative connotations that might be inferred from tightening.

(Like downsizing or rightsizing or restructuring which all basically mean redundancies)

Oh ok. I’ve not heard it in relation to a safeguarding policy before. You either have one or you don’t. Obvs they get reviewed annually but I’ve not heard it called an uplift. Ever. Equally, online safety has been around for a long time so I’d have thought that consent to a share images or videos clause would have been there from the beginning. Not suddenly added in off the back of a mumsnet thread

Also, in the related field I used to work in, you couldn’t just refuse to provide a service because you’d complained! Which is what Sam is saying.

It's all completely defensive and amateurish.

If I were running a business and people were being negative about it online, I don't think I'd accept them as customers either as I'd be worried they would be there not as 'real' customers but as people out to cause trouble. Not worth the risk.

Anyway I get the impression the skeptical parents on this thread (including myself in this) would pass the initial call, as we wouldn't sound desperate enough.

In other words, wholly unprofessional.

wouldn't pass the initial call

You'd ask questions, Teen. That would be a killer.

I think it’s pretty clear now that it’s unprofessional and that Sam doesn’t really know what she’s doing. It’s been clear for a long time.

And I'm really sorry about your daughter's prom :( My DD is also disconnected from friends, which makes the whole situation and her recovery more fraught - I'm trying to encourage her to have one or two over - offered camping out in the garden for a USP. It's painful.
I don't know what to suggest other than encouraging her to have friends over to just hang out - starting low key, and one or two at a time. Or small group picnic in a park or other neutral place.

@SwanShaped no I didn’t sign up, we’ve found a private route instead (might even be cheaper 😂). We had the call, seemed to understand our situation well but did seem a little manipulative. Explained physiological aspects of anxiety (having tried so many things and read lots I completely understand how things have gotten to this point, it’s turning it round that people don’t seem to be able to help with). So that part wasn’t particularly useful although after reading this thread it could be to emphasise that this is not a mental health issue due to the coaching aspect. No real detail on how it works other than regular zoom calls etc. Nothing on what approach would be used. The financials were last and it was £5.5k, we couldn’t afford that, there wasn’t any flexibility in payments, she then delved into if we had credit cards or family members that could help. She suggested we look into it and get back in touch, the place would be waiting (depending on waiting lists). After the call you then start to question more things and it didn’t feel right at all, so we left it and googled a lot where we found this thread, so glad we did.
@TeenMinusTests hopefully you can arrange something in place of prom. My daughter was the same. They changed prom to a picnic on the field that she wanted to go to, from not even wanting to drive past school in the car to attending an even was massive after 18 months not attending. That has now been cancelled, I was really hoping it would be the first step and confidence boost for her.
Her main friend is living in the Netherlands so can’t come over anyway. We’re feeling positive about the next steps so fingers crossed.
On a side note, I noticed on the YCFF website (now closed) that CAMHS was spelt wrong in several occasions. You’d think that a professional in that field could get that right really. Didn’t jungle do the same?

Good luck to the rest of you in whatever you do.

Wow @Comfysofa78 - she actually encouraged you to get into debt? That's awful

I really feel for your kids. Mine was referred by CAMHS to an adolescent well-being service and it has really helped but these things are so hit and miss. I don't feel I can say he's better forever but he's better at the moment.

Perhaps the sales pitch will enjoy an uplift :)

We ought to start charging management consultancy fees (joke!)

Double - great idea!!! In which case I calculate my fee due from YCFF is:

£500 per day X 11 days of consultancy = £5,500

Sam: Please contact me for UHs bank details as she will accept the fee on my behalf

That’s interesting to find out a bit more about what happens at the initial call. Very unethical to ask you to get into debt for it. Maybe that is why they’re saying it’s not a mental health condition. I don’t know what the regulations are around claiming you can cure mental health conditions.

Sorry to hear that your daughter’s event has been cancelled too. What a blow.

I'm glad that YCFF has stopped sharing children's identities and sensitive information publicly on their website. I notice that they say this is still available on request, which is concerning. I think there may still be personal information shared on the Facebook page and there are certainly names mentioned in some of the replies to Trustpilot reviews as well.

whats happened to the website and fb page- all disappeared?

Hi lu great to see you back :-) So the website has been taken down, and the facebook page, I think, is now under a different facebook address. I don't have the link (I'm not on FB very much and always seem to lose things . Hopefully one of the others can link to it.

I hope you and your dc are getting on ok :)