Why I love bottlefeeding............

[Gwenick]

with all of these debates about why people 'love' breastfeeding, why it's best and why people 'don't' want to Bf I reckon it's time for a "Why I love bottlefeeding" thread.

Before anyone starts I've had one of each - a BF for 14 months and a bottlefed from birth (BF was my first baby)

1. I can continue my 'life' - ie I can keep doing my director of music job without worrying about trying to express and (in the case of DS1) worrying about whether DS take milk from the bottle
   
   
2. DH can feed him
   
   
3. He's a happy healthy baby and I'm a healthy (not always so happy at the moment but that's different story) mummy
   
   
4. If I leave him with someone and forget to leave enough milk all they have to do is go to the shop
   
   I'll do more in a minute - DS2 needs to sleep now

[hercules]

well, out of order, shelley. I didnt want to comment on any of these threads but your last setence was offensive.

[marthamoo]

I don't often lose my temper, shelly121, in fact I never have on here - but that is absolute BLLCKS! It is offensive and ignorant. One of the best Mums I know, and my best friend to boot - someone I look up to immensely and in fact would want to look after my children if anything happend to dh or I, bottle-fed both her babies. She is a fantastic Mum. By your definition someone who adopts a child and therefore cannot breast-feed, or someone who cannot breast-feed because of medication etc. is not a "REAL MOTHER."

I thought I'd read every offensive post on here today abdout breast feeding and bottle feeding but you win the prize for making me totally lose my rag.

[hercules]

I am going to have to restrain myself......

[Yorkiegirl]

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[anchovies]

I think it was so utterly ridiculous and unbelievable that it doesn't really warrant a response. Talk about b**llocks.

[HappyMumof2]

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[dejags]

I know I said I was going, but have been lurking and CANNOT let this go without comment. Shelly121 you are ignorant and your comments are hurtful.

YOU and people like you are the reason I have no intention of coming back to MN.

[galaxy]

Don't normally get involved in these controversial threads but that comment is apalling shelley. I hope you feel proud of yourself.

[wanda]

Dejags
Am fairly new to mumsnet and this is the first topic I have got stuck into. Its taught me a lot about MN and you know, I've decided I really dont like it either. Bye!

[tiktok]

anchovies, it you do a search on my name and alcohol (!) you will see loads of posts about this, inc ones where I put the calculations about alcohol in breastmilk....basically it takes about an hour and a half for the body to process (ie get rid of) a unit of alcohol. Alcohol does get into the milk, but it diffuses out of the breastmilk back into the bloodstream and it is then processed by the liver in the usual way. Any alcohol in the breastmilk (and it is a small amount) is processed by the baby's liver...obviously, you would not go in to the SCBU totally pissed and feed a tiny 27 week prem, and at the other end of the scale you would not worry about a one year old feeding an hour after you have had half a shandy. In between, is the real world where you make up your own mind.

Personally, it wouldn't bother me to breastfeed and drink, and I certainly wouldn't ever pump and dump - there is no point in pumping and dumping as it does not get rid of the alcohol any more quickly.

Hope this helps. Ultimately, it's up to you

[marthamoo]

I know, I know It wasn't worth dignifying with a response, it certainly wasn't worth getting worked up about. It's just that I've logged on a couple of times today - seen the "debates" raging across the boards and thought "sod this, this is not what I come on MN for," and gone and had to do housework/cooking/spend time with my children instead

It's just so pointless. Anyway, I am calm now. I am the epitome of calm. I am a little oasis of calm in a raging sand-storm battered desert.

Ommmmmmm.....ommmmmmmmmm...ommmmmmmmmmm.

[Gwenick]

well I have to say there's be some pretty controversial and possibley also 'personal' comments flying around the bottlefeeding/breastfeeding threads today - but I'm afraid I think Shelley's is taking it too far.

NO-ONE (as far as I've seen) has questioned the parenting abilities of people feeding their baby in any fashion, even if we've had a good old debate



PS - I guess that must mean I'm a REAL mum to DS1 - but not a REAL mum to DS2

[Polina]

Cannot believe what I have just read, Shelley. I thought this board was for support, not abuse.

[piffle]

dejags you must not leave.
Please!!!
Breastfeeding is great if it's for you
Bottlefeeding is great if it suits you better or you cannot breastfeed for whatever reason
No way does choosing either method give anyoen the right to throw slagheap at another mother on this site.
This has got truly repulsive, we are here on ths site as mothers seeking support, friendship and intelligent debate
Well lately it's very much 0/3 isn't it
Only the people who care about this site can bring it back.
Real mothers, that is a troll like comment
A real mother does not have such a glib and offensive definition
Piff

[tiktok]

wanda, I sincerely hope it wasn't an NCT bfc who treated you in that way.....if it was, then you can (and should) complain about it.

Of course it can be normal for a baby to feed a lot, but bfcs are trained to listen and support - not to dismiss a mother's concerns in that horrible way.

You can make a complaint about a breastfeeding counsellor by calling the breastfeeding line 0870 444 8708 and choosing the feedback option or by emailing [email protected].

I hope you will follow this up - you ask me to pass on a word of advice to the bfc concerned, but obviously I can't do that (not knowing who it was or who you were). But you can do something. All bfcs work under support and supervision, and when we get complaints, they are acted upon, believe me.

[HappyMumof2]

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[Gwenick]

I don't often ask for posts to be deleted - (apart from my own ) but I really do feel that Shelley has gone too far with her comments there - any chance of an 'edit' or 'delete' being used????

[HappyMumof2]

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[PuffTheMagicDragon]

rofl HappyMum

[wanda]

Tiktok
It was an NCT BF counsellor but it was 5 years ago! I didn't want you to have a word it was just a form of expression. Thanks for the info anyway! Second tme around was so much easier but I'm told thats boys for you!

[jabberwocky]

Agree piffle. I've been lurking a bit, did not have the energy to get drawn into this debate again. Shelley has definitely drawn out my troll radar...

[tiktok]

Oh, right...five years ago you say You're right, then, not much we can do about that now!!

[Gobbledigook]

PMSL at 'Shelley'!! What an arse!

[galaxy]

shelly's been posting for a while on for sale threads for example. Not a troll - just totally ignorant