Shocking picture - has this been posted before?

[Peckarolloveragain]

Just came across this

and cant believe it was actually a real advert for Macdonalds in Austria!

Aitch, there is a difference twixt reading and not posting. And never ever reading.

I don't post in this topic. but read out of nosyness. can I just pop into give bree a quick
(no idea if this an ongoing debate so not being funny)

LGJ (why was I calling you Bree?!), yes, you have the right to react to perceived smugness.

I have the right to call you on your perception and object to being called smug and bf mafia.

Offer of a friendly ear is there if you need to talk about it all. I am not smug and I do not judge - I would hope you would know that by now.

tbh bree i think if you were reading them you wouldn't have called me out for being part of the smug bfing sorority...

Have checked again and nope i wasnt smug AT ALL in my OP.

To fill you in on my breastfeeding career - I naievely bottlefed my first child not really realising there was another way (really!), breastfed my second and LOVED it, was so EXCITED to feed my third child (now just 6 months) managed 4 months which included many trips to a BFC, a relactation (documented on MN), exclusively expressing before finally giving up and bottlefeeding.

DAILY I get a real pang of sadness, regret and yearning to bfeed again (I think i will probably have another baby, almost for this reason alone). It is actually like the pain of missing someone/grieving/being heartbroken (Im not exaggerating here, fear I could probably do with some counselling to put it to rest) I have just given my daughter a bottle and even held her in a breastfeeding position just before I put her back to bed just to revisit it.

I am also a doula and strive to keep myself informed on the subject so that I can help support other women in their feeding choices.

I happened across this image on a doula forum and it shocked me - nothing about ff vs bf - entirely because it was so odd, ludicrous etc etc

Im sorry that your experience of breastfeeding has left you feeling so sad (rightly so, I really can empathise) but please stop making such assumptions about mine, or other well intentioned posters on this site smugness.

I expect I am supposedly part of the smug mafia/nazi/bitchy/preachy gang.

Bree - I'm genuinely sad for anyone who is sad they did not breastfeed.

I have never in my life used the phrase 'breast is best' except to point out its vacuousness.

The people who post in favour of a better breastfeeding support system here (inc me) are overwhelmingly non-judgemental of people who ff, for whatever reason.

Despite feeling sorry for you, Bree, I think it was mean of you to turn this thread into one that accuses people unfairly of smugness, and into something that's bitter and divisive (as well as massively off topic).

A TRUE MUMSNET BREASTFEEDING BUNFIGHT!!!!!!!!!

oh ffs.

Oh come on, HCC, I have been waiting for years for this thread, just to say that line!

Bloody hell...was it meant to be funny?

You know, there was breast feeding, and a bun, and .... well, these silly squabbles are called bunfights, and and and

Ok, I'll get my coat.

sorry I wasn't ffsing at you jill.
I was ffsing at this whole thread and the horrible insult being bandied about willy nilly.
just, you know: ffs.

I got it, NJ

LGJ, I am upset you think so little of me, really. Would you rather nobody posted about breastfeeding so that people who'd had bad experiences didn't get upset? How would that help? How has turning this thread into a bf/ff ding-dong helped anyone? I bet you feel pretty shitty about it too.

Bree I can understand that you feel that you are grouped in with people who chose to ff blithly with no thought about any impact on your babies health.

I suspect that in your head you were a breastfeeder and it will never sit well with you that your body let you down and you couldn't feed your boy.

But I think you are firing your wrath at the wrong people here.

Mumsnet has actually taught me a lot about BF problems, attitudes to it and a whole host of reasons why people don't/cannot BF. It has rubbed all my pointy evangelistic BF corners off and hopefully I am less annoying about it.

gotta say, there aren't a lot of people on MN who chose to ff blithely, and i'm envious of the few that there are, as they are confident and happy with their choice. seems to me that the majority of ffers on MN have more in common with Bree's story than she would know (from not having read the bfing threads).

Yep that's kind of my point really.

Ita those who chose pre-birth to FF don't have any angst about it.

Unfortunately all the Breast milk is better because x,y,z stuff could really stick in your throat if you had the decision taken out of your hands.

well ime it does, for a while, and then you do see that it's not the be all and end all of parenting (like Bree said on this very thread) and so you work through your feelings and see if there's anythig you can do to save yourself or others the harm the next time. or not, it would appear.

I can't believe this thread. I am one of the 'BF mafia' I suppose
I struggled with BF this time, was near to giving up many times, but struggled on and am still BF 9 months later.

But I don't see what a burger bun has to do with FF??

Bree - well no-one else has said it here so I will.
Congratulations on the birth of your baby, walk away from this thread and concentrate on your wonderful little one.

Don't upset yourself over your perceptions of bfing mafia (suppose I'm one too!). I'm afraid that I disagree with you though, the OP has nothing to do with ff.
Fundamentally there will always be people like me who rely heavily on the bfing gurus on this site, other people who will want to know the ins and outs of formula from sources other than the compaines who promote to what is essentially a captive market.
I'm sorry if this upsets you in anyway but I'm sorry I just don't think it is an option to not talk about this.

Bree has just given birth and had heart failure and is on medication for life now Have I got that right?

In which case no wonder she is ranting and raving. omg who cares what the thread is about, she needs support support support.