17 week old and baby rice

[pamelat]

Any opinions?

The health visitor has asked me to wait another week as she is still gaining weight well but she is cranky (and has been for 2 weeks or so), waking frequently at night, grabbing my toast (!) and crying when she cant have it.

I believe she is genuinely hungry, especially at night.

Health visitor said to put her in her own room instead as that could be why is waking so frequently but personally I would rather satisfy her hunger and have her near us?

I know that 17 weeks is meant to be the earliest you start it but what are the negatives for starting it at 17 weeks?

i do think holier-than-thou is very often in the eye of the thou, tbh.

I wish we had tickers - I'd have that as mine.

"BF mums would urge people asking for advice not to wean as they tend to wean later,thats my point."

no, in this climate BFing mums have to arm themselves with info and research in order to justify what is actually the natural thing, because the unnatural one has dominated for so many years. so they're more likely to come across the research into the whys and wherefores behind weaning ages. imo.

if it's just daftie opinion that ffing mums are after then they can get that from their aunts and mothers. and do, ime.

CP that's total and utter rubbish. It's got nothing to do with whether they b/fed or not. Clearly you have lots of biased feelings towards women who b/feed, and advocate b/feeding though. Perhaps you are not the right person to be providing input on such threads?

Nor is it about options - there is no set rule.

It's about correct advice and information.

ah, there you go hunker, i just came right out and said it.

SM, yes, I see that A Lot too - women who are used to things going their way, to scheduling, to being in control - and then a baby comes along and it's all unpredictable and they see it as easier to get back into a predictable routine with a bottle.

Is that the case then? If you say so, because I ff dd1 I am unintelligent? Did I suddenly get a PHD because I am now bf dd2? Interesting as my nursing qualification means I have read thousands of articles, all be it, not many about parenting. It is akin to a pharmacist saying that everyone who doesn't know the use for all medicines is dim because he does iyswim. Just because I don't bother to read all the advice and articles etc doesn't mean I am incapable of finding them and reading them. The trouble is that the research is usually biased and carried out by pro bf websites.

Tori, i went back to work when dd was 19 wks old. Sleep deprivation made me a menace on the road every day, twice a day and my performance at work began to suffer significantly. I solved those problems by cosleeping full time. yes it may not be for everybody. it took me a while to get used to it and right till she chose to leave our bed, there were some nights that I wished she wasn't there. Dd just wasn't having solids and I now know that there was a biological reason behind her refusal. She is allergic to two very common weaning foods. I would feel like utter shit now if i had forced her to wean early or sleep train as I would have forced her to do 2 things she wasn't physiologically ready or able to do.

A stressful job shouldn't be used to advise women that it is ok to take health risks with a baby. it is an opportunity to look at alternative management strategies that respect the needs of the child without putting them at risk.

oh, not that you are wondering but... now that she has left our bed, she said to me the other morning when I was trying to get a lie in by inviting her in: I don't want to sleep in your bed anymore. Eventhough she is ill, she doesn't want to come to bed with us.

what are the stats, though, hunker, do you happen to know? i thought that there was a class disparity (for want of a better expression).

I love that there's an instinct for gut maturity though. That's just hilarious.

who called you unintelligent, tori?

But people do still have to do whats right for them based on the advice and how they feel.I think that can be difficult to do.

I never realised how people felt so strongly about feeding till I joined this site.

I never ceases to amaze me.

The World Health Organisation is biased and a pro-bf website so its research is flawed?

Tori, really?

Aitch, yes, there is a class disparity the way you suggest (older, middle class mums most likely to bf, I think). I am wading through the infant feeding stats atm - I'll see what I can dig up (bloody NCT have redesigned their website and lost most of the info on it - grr!).

"The trouble is that the research is usually biased and carried out by pro bf websites. "

Really?

Biased towards what exactly, and why?

Which research have you found that has been carried out by a website???? Am truly intrigued.

really? why does it amaze you that people feel strongly about correct information being out there?

Exactly so, CP.

But how can you "feel" that your baby's ready for solid food?

Tori, you aren't demonstrating uberintelligence here

dowsing, hunker.

tori

back down you will never win this argument.Like I said once that nipple comes out....

Im off to bed and to give ds his last feed.
night night

what? CP, really...

That's right, pro-bf websites.
Pro-the-norm-and-most-suitable-for-our-babies-websites, of course we shouldnt listen to them, they didn't go by 'gut instinct'. Stupid facts. Pfft.

You can prove anything you like with facts though, VS...

Except a negative, can never prove a negative.

Oh what a truly cock-headed thing to say. Honestly.

Thankfully, it's patently obvious that it's cock-headed to all right-thinking folk.

Pamelot will be scarred for life after all this though I'm sure.