Tell me I am right and this is tosh - GP tells me I must drink at least 2 pints of milk a day to 'make milk'.

[jennifersofia]

Didn't do this with my other 2 and that seemed fine..

doggie, you are right, spouting shite in a confident manner is bollocks

but

he has not really advised anyhting dangerous has he (unless jennifer is lactose intolerant)?

He's not advised she gives up feeding (I'm pro bf btw).

he is wrong, and should be told, but he is likely to be more receptive if you do it in a firm but polite manner rather than call him a fucking idiot. (imvho )

My usually sensible MIL at one point was concerned that all the fizzy water i was drinking would make the baby windy..

She's not a gp tho.

I had an argument with the head hv at my large gp practice who insisted all babies should be weaned at 4 months and had never heard of the 6 month stuff. I complained to the health trust solely so that some sort of training or updating of knowledge could take place. I was told that she was the one who advised all the gps and other hvs in the surgery and that uptodate training on weaning and bf wasnt compulsory.

It is just old fashioned - not really dangerous. In fact it is not a bad idea to up your intake of skimmed milk as it is good for your bones. It is important to have enough to eat and drink though.

Actually spouting can be harmful. It will be believed by some people who will then panic that they are not able to keep up with this therefore will stop bf. I have often heard people say they were too busy to eat the right food or drink enough water so gave up bf as they couldnt manange the whole thing.

Yes that's true slubber. I'm all for the positive approach.

Tis much funnier to call him a fucking idiot on here though

But what if you dont like milk? Of course you can breastfeed still. I repeat, nor do you need to ensure you are eating enough or drinking enough. You would have to be seriously malnourished not to be able to bf. Of course everyone should eat and drink enough breastfeeding or not.

bombard GP with bf information.

they are clearly in dire need of some accurate up to date info.

hercules, that's appalling about the "up to date training is not compulsory" stuff

What a great attitude, eh?

They have to do regular training but cant be made to do weaning and bf ones. Correct me if I am wrong someone.

If by any chance your lo has a cow's milk protein allergy/intolerance then necking down loads of cow's milk can in some cases make your child ill and affect their weight gain. It's not all that uncommon either.

Good heavens, milk, skimmed, low fat or whole is completely unnecessary in the diet of a grown up, let alone to make milk or to have healthy bones.

lots and lots common and cheap foods contain calcium.

the cultures of the American Indians, the Chinese, Japanese and SE Asians all evolved without the milk from another mammal in their diet.

I agree hercules. What ifthe op was struggling to bf, and the '2 pints of milk' was the last straw and she stopped? What if he says that to a pregnant person and they decide not to bf at all?

I beg to differ my milk didnt come in because of stress! I had a small baby and 2 toddlers to care for and this effected my supply which had been fine in other pregnancies. The more relaxed you are the easier it is to bf, and i think that diet is an issue..if you dont eat well then how can you give your baby all that it needs...just as drinking alcohol in large quanties is not a good idea..some things can also upset the stomach of a baby and you quickly learn what these are! And i have bf 4 children and helped countless others to do so. The milk thing defiently a load of crap! Not saying im right just thats what happened to me and i advise on diet, you eat a good diet when your pregnant i see no reason why that shouldnt continue afterwards. Of course its differs from woman to woman...stress wont effect all but some it does.

Bitcat, really you'd have to be stressed with something like a death in the family for your milk to be affected. Most mothers are stressed to a certain extent when having babies. Women have breastfed through wars and terrible conditions with atrocious diets.

You can also drink alcohol too- just not so you'd be bladdered but you wouldnt drink this much anyway if looking after a child.

There have been times over the years when I've breastfed that my diet has been pretty crap and it's never made a jot of difference.

hahahahahahaha
very funny
in the Stone Age we all had herds of cows outside our caves, otherwise the babies all starve

That is what i said,large quantities of alcohol! I didnt say never or none at all, i had 1 or 2 at xmas!
Yes but it does make it easier hercules!
And much better for both babies and mums.
Doesnt effect all women but it did me, i had lots of other issues, money problems etc..so yes it did effect my milk and i did manage to deal with it and eventually resume bf, with a lot of hard work but it was all worth it.

I suspect he's thinking of your calcium levels. Was probably thinking he'd done his bit to ensure that you weren't sitting in front of him in six months time, toothless and on walking sticks...

That's probably the reason for the Horlicks advice as well.

What you eat obviously affects the taste of the milk: I've heard that vanilla is popular, while mine got very windy after certain vegetables. This is all anecdotal, however.

I think it was more along the lines of PND, for me mildly, i had it again with 4th baby!

No the horlicks advice was from my mil who knows sod all about how breastfeeding works. She was thinking of milk to make milk.

Symptoms...depression which included snapping at everyone including baby, and the other children, crying almost 3/4times a day for no apparrent reason, feeling useless, unable to feed baby, baby not satisfied with milk, screaming, hungary because no milk there.

Sorry we will have to agree to disagree then. . I stand by what I said about stress not having an effect. Shock can cause a temporary cessation but stress doesnt.