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Childminder demands I stop breastfeeding

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Acr07 · 04/04/2024 15:10

Hi, I'm after a bit of advice. I've been sending my daughter to the childminders since she was a year old. The childminder happens to be her auntie as well. I've breastfed since birth and she in now 3.5 years old. Yes I know she's probably too old but she only has it at night before bed. Doesn't demand it at the childminders or anything. But today, she has said I NEED to stop as they're trying to teach her how to be more grown up and they associate BF with being a baby. Surely it's our choice when she's ready to stop, and nobody else's business of it isn't affecting her day to day? I've said that she will stop in hwr own time, but she keeps saying it needs to be now. She is my partner SIL and even though I've said something, she doesn't listen. Can she demand I stop?

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GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 18:47

First post you ask if she can demand you stop, like you weren’t sure, now you say you can’t believe her nerve and it’s none of her business?

6pence · 04/04/2024 18:49

she can’t demand as such but would she stop having her if you don’t comply? You are free to do as you want. She’s free to accept your decision- or not.

Notreat · 04/04/2024 18:52

Tell her it's none of her business. She can't dictate when you choose to give up.

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 04/04/2024 18:53

6pence · 04/04/2024 18:49

she can’t demand as such but would she stop having her if you don’t comply? You are free to do as you want. She’s free to accept your decision- or not.

The CM is not free to decline a place due to bf. That would be illegal.

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 18:56

Fundays12 · 04/04/2024 15:53

No she can't demand it but I am wondering reading if she has noticed your child is very babied and she can see it's causing an issue in age and stage approiate development and is trying to express this as a concern but its come out wrong.

Personally I think 3.5 years old is to old to breastfeed as at that age children should be starting to be taught skills in preparation for nursery or reception which some kids start at 4. Some of those skills include proper eating habits so kids are able to sit down and eat snacks and lunch with there peers. Is your child eating ok in the day time or are they not hungry because they are taking in lots of calories breastfeeding in at night? Sleeping patterns are very important to at that age. Are they waking a lot at night too feed and is it having a detrimental impact on them the next day? Is your child to tired to do much or learn properly?

I work with kids and would be a concerned if a 3.5 year old i cared for was exhausted daily from breastfeeding at night or going hungry in the day because they had consumed lots of calories at night breastfeeding or if they were showing signs of delays due to being babied. If none of that is relevant then it's not the CMS business and she has over stepped the mark massively.

None of that will be relevant if a child is having a breastfeed before bed, no. No more than a child having a small glass of cows milk.

muggart · 04/04/2024 18:57

Acr07 · 04/04/2024 18:45

For those asking why I still BF, I think it's just a comfort thing before bed. She sleeps through the night without waking, she wears knickers all the time so not in nappies, she eats and drinks great throughout the day. It affects her in no way. Her development is great and is learning rapidly. She sometimes seems more grown up than her 8 year old brother. I just don't think it's her business. I know she's family but boundaries are needed when it comes to my parenting skills.

I expect a lot more mothers do extended bf than we realise, because they are probably like you just doing a feed before bed.

I think it's wonderful for her body and mind that you've kept it up this long. I hope you aren't discouraged by some of the ignorance on this thread by people thinking that it somehow hinders their development/ willingness to eat / ability to sleep. It does none of those things and it is really odd to think it does.

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/04/2024 18:59

No of course she can’t.

Why do you, though?

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:01

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 18:00

It is true that 3 and 4 year olds now are generally quite delayed and babied compared to previous years. We seem to treat toddlers as newborns and reception aged children as toddlers now - dummies, bottles of milk, breastfeeding, nappies, up all hours of the night.

Breastfeeding doesn't belong in that list as the other things are for babies and toddlers, while breastfeeding is normal for all young children.

sussexlady · 04/04/2024 19:08

I was just going to say say your daughter is hanging on to the bedtime feed because it is a comfort as she nods off to sleep. She probably isn't really getting any 'food' from it. What is wrong with people? If people haven't breastfed themselves they don't really understand what it is all about. It isn't only about eating it is much more than that. I have 3 children and I breastfed them all for a long time until about 3.5 it just tailed off naturally but it was always the night time one that was the last one to go which makes sense. If mine fell and hurt themselves etc. I would just quickly feed for even a few seconds as a comfort. I was at a concert with them and breastfeeding and someone said in a friendly way 'you will be sitting on his lap doing that soon'. I am positive it doesn't make any difference to what they eat during the day or that it makes her clingy or immature or any of the other nonsense talked about on here. As long as you are both happy tell them to mind their own business. I know it's hard when it is your first baby with so many people thinking they have the right to tell you what to do. When you have 3 or 4 more you will be telling them to fuck off!
How many 40 year olds do you see being breastfed - apart from David Walliams on that sketch on TV? it will naturally come to an end. People are so mean

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:10

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:01

Breastfeeding doesn't belong in that list as the other things are for babies and toddlers, while breastfeeding is normal for all young children.

I disagree. I know a lot of babies who have weaned themselves at 12-18 months. I have just finished bf DS who is 12 months, he has happily moved on to follow on milk with no screaming or meltdowns. I always wonder how grown men will feel when they have memories of being breastfed as 5 year olds, tbh.

Fundays12 · 04/04/2024 19:11

HellonHeels · 04/04/2024 17:56

exhausted from breastfeeding at night

What on earth? A breast feed at night isn't going to make a child exhausted!

It will if they are waking up constantly through the night to go and feed and not sleeping well because of it there sleep is disrupted and they are exhausted the next day. If they are just cuddled up sleep feeding it won't.

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:12

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:10

I disagree. I know a lot of babies who have weaned themselves at 12-18 months. I have just finished bf DS who is 12 months, he has happily moved on to follow on milk with no screaming or meltdowns. I always wonder how grown men will feel when they have memories of being breastfed as 5 year olds, tbh.

If your baby was biologically ready to wean he wouldn't need follow on milk, just food.

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:13

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:12

If your baby was biologically ready to wean he wouldn't need follow on milk, just food.

Of course he would. Everyone needs calcium in their diet, adults included. I will add its oat milk, not cow.

Alstreena · 04/04/2024 19:14

Your childminder has no right to demand you do anything.

Find a better childminder.

Noyesnoyes · 04/04/2024 19:15

This is the problem with family childcare!

You might save money, but they overstep the mark.

Pay more and don't have the interference.

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/04/2024 19:15

The “baby” is 3.5.

Cheese? Yoghurt?

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:17

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:13

Of course he would. Everyone needs calcium in their diet, adults included. I will add its oat milk, not cow.

Adults, and children past biological weaning age don't need milk or a plant based milk substitute. Follow on milk is a breastmilk replacement for children either not breastfed or weaned prematurely.

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:18

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:17

Adults, and children past biological weaning age don't need milk or a plant based milk substitute. Follow on milk is a breastmilk replacement for children either not breastfed or weaned prematurely.

Then why do adults need calcium and take multivitamins? Should they still be being breastfed?

Humblechicken · 04/04/2024 19:19

I'd ignore all posters who haven't breasted up to child age. They just won't get it and most people can't even begin to try if it's something they haven't done. However it is biological normal to be feeding at her age. I fed mine until 4 years old/just over. My daughter is super secure as a ten year old and has been for a while, I'm sure other things have way more impact on this than a bedtime breastfeed as a preschooler. I think we forget we are supposed to be an interdependent species and 3.5 years is nothing in terms of brain development which continues developing up to age 25+. Your childminder has no right to demand this.

jannier · 04/04/2024 19:21

fuckityfuckityfuckfuck · 04/04/2024 15:54

Natural term weaning for humans is ~7yo, around the time they lose their baby teeth (or milk teeth - clues in the name!) because the mouth shape changes slightly making it difficult to latch effectively.

The shock shouldn't be for bf school age children which is biologically sound. The shock should be for paying for milk from another species, and feeding it to our children.

Can you tell me where you found this information?

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:22

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:18

Then why do adults need calcium and take multivitamins? Should they still be being breastfed?

Adults can get calcium from a variety of foods. Dairy is not a necessity.

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:24

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:22

Adults can get calcium from a variety of foods. Dairy is not a necessity.

Hence DS having oat milk…

Alwaysalwayscold · 04/04/2024 19:25

Acr07 · 04/04/2024 18:45

For those asking why I still BF, I think it's just a comfort thing before bed. She sleeps through the night without waking, she wears knickers all the time so not in nappies, she eats and drinks great throughout the day. It affects her in no way. Her development is great and is learning rapidly. She sometimes seems more grown up than her 8 year old brother. I just don't think it's her business. I know she's family but boundaries are needed when it comes to my parenting skills.

Judging by this she's perfectly capable of giving it up. 3.5 is too old.

Seems like it's you who doesn't want to give it up.

Kalevala · 04/04/2024 19:26

GoodnightAdeline · 04/04/2024 19:24

Hence DS having oat milk…

Dairy or a fortified plant based replacement is not necessary. If he was biologically ready to wean he could just eat sardines or many other calcium rich foods.

RichinVitaminR · 04/04/2024 19:26

They're trying to teach a 3.5 year old how to be more grown up, fine. What's that got to do with her being breastfed though?! Unless she asked for it during the day, it really is not childminder's business as to what you do! Jfc Mums receive relentless judgement whatever they do, don't they? Breastfeed? Great but you'll need to stop by xyz time, otherwise you'll be judged. Don't breastfeed? You're awful and you should be. Not for too long though.
As PPs have said, I think you might need to find a new childminder. You're doing what is right for you and your child and that is nobody else's business.

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