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Night Feeders Part 4 Up All Night Feeding, newborns, sleep regressions, toddlers, every knackered Mummy welcome!

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Cannotbelieveit · 09/09/2014 09:26

Here's a fresh thread!

Let's start by introducing us/babies again Grin

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AuntieMaggie · 30/09/2014 09:27

Ds woke again about 4 then 6 then 7 and has just dropped off again. But I didn't get much sleep cos I was listening to him cough and stuff. So another day on the sofa here - he's not sleeping deeply enough to put him down during the day with this cold. And tbh if his throat hurts as much as mine no wonder. He's also very windy which is part my fault as he was upset enough with the calpol and nose stuff that I didn't want to disrupt him anymore by winding him in the night so he's parping away loudly on me in his sleep.

He's been having a bottle of formula in the evening like the HV said but it's not making any difference to his sleep like she said it would!

writer HV told me any change in diet can affect their bowels upto 7-10 days even just the one little difference. unless he's uncomfortable I wouldn't worry but maybe try to give him some water and call HV?

Cannotbelieveit · 30/09/2014 10:06

Auntie formula won't make the difference with sleep as even formula only takes 3 hours to be digested.

Naughty HV's still peddling this nonsense (not anti formula at all it's just lies like that are daft with regards to sleep!)

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Writerwannabe83 · 30/09/2014 10:40

Well DS fell asleep again at 8am so we cuddled up together in bed and we've only just woken up Shock Smile

Last night was the worst night we've had in ages and all DS wanted to do was feed, feed and feed!! I reckon his teeth are really playing up too which isn't helping - poor thing. I don't want to keep giving him calpol or Nurofen though seeing as his stomach is being a bit dodgy but teething gels don't seem to help him much.

Sammyviv · 30/09/2014 10:54

Advise mummies
DS is being a pickle he fed every 2 hrs last night
He's normally asleep by now but being so fussy he feeds but snuffles around and won't latch on properly the boobs there but it's like he can't find it
I've tried winding him and walking around with the sling on
Saying that he's just fallen asleep on me
I find days like today tough

bumpiesonamission · 30/09/2014 11:35

Oh Sammy, sounds very familiar to when DS was tiny. Things will change daily I'm afraid. They will digest a full feed in 10/20mins so if he's more active he will need more!!

Just go with the flow sorry!

Sammyviv · 30/09/2014 11:42

Thank you bumpies

AuntieMaggie · 30/09/2014 11:56

cannot I thought it was nonsense but the HV was insistent it would! I've been giving him a bottle of formula each evening (well dp has) for the past few days. It's giving me a little time to myself... sort of...

sammy sounds like a growth spurt to me

bumpiesonamission · 30/09/2014 12:12

Maggie, mine said the same, we were doing it, z was waking more often and was more awake for bottle as it took time to make so back to the booby!!

Cannotbelieveit · 30/09/2014 12:36

It is nonsense im afraid. Both my boys have slept the same and by this point ds1 was fully on formula.

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cookielove · 30/09/2014 13:25

mrs you are welcome. Again as I said before any good nursery will be able to settle your lo, e.g we had a little boy who was very clingy to mum and would only sleep in a pushchair at home, he was very dummy orientated and wanted one on one care all the time, he refused to eat food at home too and mum was really worried about his weight. Within a week he was eating all his lunch at nursery and sleeping in a cot. We never quite kicked the dummy habit but with loads of one on one he became very social and such a delight to look after. Any way my point is good nurseries have the skills required to settle any baby, remember that any form of childcare is a big shock to the system for any child so things may go a bit haywire in the beginning Grin

squizita · 30/09/2014 18:18

Cariad I got into the habit of cinema, gigs and theatre alone at college (performing arts school- always blagging cheap tickets) and love it to this day! Enjoy!! Grin No waiting for mates to decide loo/drink/food stuff, just you and the show!

AuntieMaggie Poor you and LO! Sore throats and sniffles are horrible, so sore buy so little you can do for them. Hope it eases soon. I was told same as Cannot by my MW: formula doesn't fill them all night just 3-4 hr (mind you they might be pushing BF on me even though I'm happy BFING at the moment anyway!).

Sammy Mine is like that! Gets so hyper for the milk she can't hold still then can't latch. Silly thing! I just have to be patient - also I squeeze out some milk to guide her and do that "boob hold" midwives do that the NCT tell you isn't needed. Well since I started doing it for frantic feeds my boobs have not bled so no regrets! MWe said this young they do it not only during growth spurts but just before to set the boobs up for increased production.

Cookie I used to work with tiniest but now work with teens. Think I miss the little ones now!! Grin

DD has had a sleepy false advertising day with granny and mummy, mummy went to Bravissimo and found she was a 30GG Shock when she thought she was 34DD. Blimey. DD looked adorable in pram sleeping angelic for 3 hours. No farts, poops or feeds. Mummy's G cups were running over when we got home - they still ache a bit after 2 feeds. I hope she wants supper soon! She's chilling in the sleepy head now ... something she won't do in a moses basket. Hope it means she'll sleep in it tonight (and won't be hyper after long naps today).

Writerwannabe83 · 30/09/2014 19:24

Doing the bed time feed now. DS has only slept for 20 minutes today!!

20 minutes in the 9 hours he's been awake. It stresses me out worrying about his lack of naps. No matter how tired he is and no matter what I do he just will not sleep Confused

Sammyviv · 30/09/2014 20:04

For the first time ever DS hardly slept today too, he just had 3 hours and we woke him with DP came home. Fingers crossed for a few hours sleep tonight

mrsmugoo · 30/09/2014 20:13

Found the perfect nursery today - I can't believe how lovely it is! So it's official - back to work in November and I am over the moon!! DS will be two days a week and Fridays with his grannies alternate weeks.

He took an hours nap in this cot this morning and then we were out and about for a few hours and he napped in his pushchair on the way home and then again when we went out a second time to see another nursery. He only woke up at 5pm so I was pleased he still went down for bed at 7:30pm!

bumpiesonamission · 30/09/2014 20:16

Awesome day Mrs. I keep meaning to say that my lo sounds the same as yours. He very rarely opens his mouth for food from a spoon except yoghurtBlush but will suck the mush if with penne pasta!! We are moving to blw as it's proving to be more effective.

Cannotbelieveit · 30/09/2014 20:41

Only a 90 min nap in the cot this morning and a 10 minute cat nap in the cot this afternoon!! He's been asleep since 7.40pm. Hoping for a good night as I have friends coming over tomorrow x

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Cannotbelieveit · 30/09/2014 20:42

Great news about the nursery Mrs!

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squizita · 30/09/2014 22:42

Mine slept most of the day. Then, my breasts were totally full and she drained them 7 pm ish. Then out cold again to the extent I was worried ... then she spat up milk and still seemed sleepy so I was totally worried.
After that she did a HUGE poo. Woke up. Hungry again! And in no mood to sleep cause she slept all day! Currently farting and hiccupinG in her bed.

Bloody vague PFB books don't help ... what IS "liquid poo" for a baby? Ain't it all liquid? "Vomit should look like curdled milk" ... what if it just looks like milky milk? "Different level of wakefulness/sleepiness" ... Erm apart from extremes what's that!?! Confused
So now I'm worried even though pfb is awake and just socked like a spoonful of milk because she gobbled from an engorged breast.

And don't get me started on the mastitis chapter ... Shock

Cariad007 · 01/10/2014 00:25

I am not having much luck trying BLW s think I'll stick with spoon feeding. DS puts everything in his mouth except food! Even at playgroup the other da he was chewing on all the toys but there was some cooked spaghetti for messy play and that went nowhere near his mouth.

He behaved himself while I was at Kylie (who was fab) but when I got home he pooped in his sleep so DP had to change him amidst much screaming! I've just fed him to sleep but he seems a bit restless so don't think he ell sleep thru tonight.

squizita · 01/10/2014 01:17

Does anyone know a solution for this or just whether it is normal.
Not got to bed yet. DD has cried to be fed about 20 times. My breasts are empty but feeding for a short time seems to make her sleep ... For 2 minutes. Then she pants and screams - does hunger faces. She has had both breasts then anything left in them I can muster and seems satisfied, un latches ... then does hungry bird face and screams. It's not even proper cluster feeding.
Have tried getting DH to rock her. Useless. He is cross because he says me waking her to check she was OK when she was sick earlier led to this.
Oh god she was just calming down and has pooed. Sad

squizita · 01/10/2014 01:58

She's screaming hysterically now. It's quite scary. She can't even latch on.

squizita · 01/10/2014 02:02

We just can't stop her crying for the breast like she's starving. But once on, she hardly suckles. So worried.

squizita · 01/10/2014 02:18

She is calm now on DH. No food begging. Just comforted down.
But she wouldn't suckle for comfort off me she obviously wanted real food. Dunno how we will settle her to bed. Sad

Cannotbelieveit · 01/10/2014 02:20

DS just fed from both sides after 6 hours of sleep. Let's see if that suffices til morning Shock

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squizita · 01/10/2014 05:35

DH got dd to sleep 3-4.30 by comforting her (I couldn't do this as she just thrashed round for milk).
But then I heard her poo, so changed her and it's back to square one. Feeds, acts satisfied then screams with what appears to be hunger and goes for the breast instantly again when she is put down though she was "milk drunk " drowsy when fed. Like an off/on switch

I feel such a failure. I can't get her to sleep, I can't comfort her without milk, but my milk enrages her. Sad