Night Feeders Part 4 Up All Night Feeding, newborns, sleep regressions, toddlers, every knackered Mummy welcome!

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Here's a fresh thread!

Let's start by introducing us/babies again

Newborns not wanting to be put down to sleep is so normal - they think they are still part of you!

I admitted defeat quite quickly and we just did all daytime sleeps either in my arms or in the pram until 3.5 months when I started putting him in the bouncer and using the motion to keep him asleep after the transfer.

At night I would feed him wrapped up snug in a blanket and put hi down I the basket so he didn't notice the temperature change, then I'd stuff rolled up blankets around him to make a little cocoon so he felt packed in and secure.

He grew out of his Moses basket by 8 weeks and then we just switched to co-sleeping.

Next time round I will just co-sleep from birth and not bother trying to faff around getting a newborn into a basket they don't want to be in!!

next time - those are words you'll never hear me say

And I meant to say regarding the 'death rattle' - my DS was very snuffly and mucousy until he was about 10 weeks old. He was born via CS and that can make the problem worse but in general I think it affects all babies

Oh yes, this one did all manner of grunts and strains from about 4-10 weeks. Gripe water was our saviour. It's just their digestive tracts maturing and dealing with the increased milk intake.

Something someone said on another thread yesterday - its not up to us to fix things, it's up to us to survive things!

It was said in relation to short naps but I think relevant to a lot of our baby related issues.

Morning everyone. Sorry to hear there were so many unsettled nights, strong all round, I think.

DS had another good night, down at 8.30/9, fed at 11ish and then went through till nearly 4.30. Up for the day at 7. Unfortunately I'm now so used to being woken that I was wide awake between 3 and sometime after 5 so I've only had about 5 hours!! Feels so unfair to be awake while DS is sleeping, but I guess it will take more than 2 good nights for my body clock to reset. I'm trying to stay positive even though I'm shattered because at least DS seems to be sleeping a bit better please, please let it continue

I'm the same Kate - he's having really decent night but I'm struggling to get to sleep. Last night I went to bed at 10, took ages to fall asleep by then was woken by the thunder at 12 and someone shouting outside at 1. He was awake just before 2 for a feed. Took me til about 3:30 to drop back off then he was awake and feeding again at 5:30. Less than an hours doze until up for the day just before 7.

So 3:30-5:30 was my longest sleep of the night

Thanks for all the nice welcomes and advice. My friend said mums net would be my saviour - wish I had come here 4 weeks ago. Re co sleeping - would you think it is safe (safer) if ds is in my arms sleeping ( lying on a hard pillow) with me propped up with loads of pillows behind me? ThAt is how I bf in bed and we both fall asleep but that way I can't roll on him and he's got no bedding near him. Am terrified of all the negative co sleeping advice but it is contradictory. Hope everyone manages a nap today or at least gets some help from people over the weekend!

Olivia no that doesn't sound safe - have you ever tried feeding lying down on your side?

If I was co-sleeping with a newborn now I'd invest in a sleepyhead (google it, available from John Lewis) and feed lying down, that way you can fall asleep feeding and it's still safe.

Never have your duvet near your baby and ever put them in the middle, always next to you with their head by your armpit and your legs curled around them.

Definitely get the sleepyhead! We've had both sizes and love it!

As has been said olivia - do not fall asleep holding your baby and especially do not have pillows near them. I didn't first co-sleep until DS was 4 months old because I just felt too scared too. I took all the pillows off my bed, swapped my duvet for a very light sheet and has DS in the position as described by mrsmugoo. To be honest it wasn't very comfortable and I didn't sleep very well but I think part of that reason was because I didn't feel it was safe. DS is now almost 6 months and although we do co-sleep together quite frequently I still worry every time I do it. It can be done safely and I think there are mothers who feel fine doing it and others who would never consider it, it's just personal choice. I float somewhere in the middle of those groups as I only co-sleep if I feel there's no other option (I.e he won't go to sleep otherwise and I'm shattered!)

Co-sleeping was never something I wanted to do long term because I feel very strongly about babies learning to sleep independently as soon as is developmentally possible but saying that, I am completely comfortable to co-sleep and co-nap as a tool to get the sleep we both need in a specific circumstance (frequent night feeds, illness, early mornings)

Thanks so much for all taking the time to reply

I was against formula, dummies and co sleeping but have changed my mind since our arrival!

Will definitely look at getting the sleepy head. ...So basically the sleepy head is in bed with you and you feed him while he is in it(so no moving him). Might have to kick hubby out of bed mind you

I didn't intend to cosleep (does anyone?) but we've fallen into it and DS still loves being close to me. I will put him in his cot and he will wriggle his way over to my side. We have sidecarred the cot to our bed but as it was slightly lower than the bed we bought some blocks to raise it up so that it's even. But now the problem is that DS's favourite spot to sleep is on his front, EXACTLY where the cot joins the bed!! So I would rather have him next to me than have him there as I worry that he might get his nose stuck between the two mattresses and not be able to breathe. Which is kind of silly of me as he's more than capable of wriggling away but better safe than sorry!

Mitsufishi I saw your other thread - how nasty of that poster to just go for you. There are some oddbods who post on MN at times. Another poster on that thread is someone I've seen on others - no matter what the topic, she will always have to mention how wealthy she is or how much her kids earn. I think she might be Katie Hopkins in disguise!

am I allowed to ask what Olivia's other thread was about and who was being nasty? Or is that just nosy of me??

I mean Mitsu's thread

Just seen it!! What shit was being spouted about it taking 30 mins to get to hind milk! Amongst other stupid comments!

Where is it???? Lol

I keep hunting but don't know what I'm looking for????

Ohh I've not read the other threads and don't think I want to. Let's hope she doesn't come over to our thread. Can you block people of she does?
Anyone got any tips for dry skin? DS not me I am using olive oil but I feel like he's turning into a potato he smells so good.
Ps are shooting pains in your boobs normal when breast feeding?

I used to get electric shock sensations in my boobs during the early months - they would come on very suddenly and be really sharp. I was told it was just the 'let down reflex' and it happens when a feed is due and sometimes it would happen even if I just thought about feeding DS

Olive oil will actually exfoliate the skin more and not help the dryness if it's really excessive. My DS was shedding skin like a snake and so dry and I was recommended and used Bepanthen extra moisturiser for sensitive skin

Epaderm is also really good.

Those electric shock sensations! I didn't have them the last two times and now I'm like wtf! Like a pricking feeling? I also have a very small black dot on one of my nipples which has appeared since I started feeding. Like a blood blister.

Writer the thread is in AIBU but I suspect MNHQ will delete the whole thing soon as it's only going to frustrate and upset more people. The poster in question is quite clearly not the full ticket though.

I have prickly, tingly, tightening, fuzzy sensations in my nipples all the time

I'm always in AIBU - I haven't seen a thread go off the rails though. Mind you, the ones about breast feeding always tend to get nasty so I try to avoid them hence why I probably didn't see it.

I have prickly, tingly, tightening, fuzzy sensations in my nipples all the time

I'm always in AIBU - I haven't seen a thread go off the rails though. Mind you, the ones about breast feeding always tend to get nasty so I try to avoid them hence why I probably didn't see it.