Page 4 | How to stay awake during night feeds part 10!

larlemucker · 22/05/2013 09:42

lazza last night I made up the baby rice with 1 spoon of rice and about 15 spoons of breast milk and added a spoon of apple.
Haven't tried the porridge yet.

Last night most of the time he was suckling for comfort so going to try with a dummy tonight

larlemucker · 22/05/2013 11:41

I really feel like these terrible nights and short naps are my fault.
Just been flicking through the baby whisperer and every page says that if your baby won't sleep in their cot, wakes frequently in the night, has short naps its due to 'accidental parenting' and to get them in a routine of napping for 2 hours etc...

So is it my fault he is like this? Should I have been more strict with his routine from the start? We do have a routine of a nap every 2-2.5 hours. Baby whisperer says at his age naps should be 3-4 hours apart.

Also I rock, walk, feed to sleep which she says I shouldn't do.

Am at a loss as to how to fix this. DS sleeps in our bed but I miss my DH, we always fall asleep cuddling and with DS in the bed we can't. We've DTD once since baby larle was born and I know it's frustrating DH.

This is all my fault, I have 7 weeks till I go back to work and I don't know how I'll cope if his sleeping doesn't improve

Anypants · 22/05/2013 12:08

Did you do the quiz to find out which type of baby you have larle? Turns out I have a touchy baby so unfortunately I will rock her to sleep because that's the way it goes. Want to find someone with an 'angel' baby as they will most certainly be lying. Do what you have to and take bits from from the book but there's no way you can conform in every way

larlemucker · 22/05/2013 12:26

Didn't see a quiz any, will have another look.

Baby larle is knackered, he has been asleep on me for an hour. If I put him in cot I wonder if he will wake up!

lazzaroo · 22/05/2013 13:40

Thanks larle, that's about same as us. I don't think sleepless nights are your fault, although I understand your worrying as I go through all the same thoughts. Baby lazza doesn't nap for longer than an hour so I also try to stick to the 2 hour rule. It's a bit of a pain in the arse to put her down so regularly but it's my only choice. Toddler lazza was the same, and as she was my first I tied myself in knots trying to figure out what .I was doing wrong...why didn't she do the fAmous 2 hour lunch time nap. She just never did. I tried for a while trying to extend her naps but it just ended up being stressful, probably for her aswell as me!

Baby lazza had a long nap on me yesterday and still had a rubbish night! I also use the pushchair to get her to sleep or feed her to sleep. Eventually we'll probably have to do some sleep training, we did with toddler lazza, but it'll have to wait until she's older.

Judging by the amount of threads on here about it I really don't think frequent short naps are that unusual.

lazzaroo · 22/05/2013 13:41

Oh, and work have approached me about returning early. I struggle to see how I'll do it at the moment too but will have to think about it.

GoatBongosAnonymous · 22/05/2013 14:56

NOT your fault larle . Really not. This is just another stuck with which to beat mums (can you tell I am on a bit of a soapbox at the moment?!) The same routine doesn't suit every baby - why should it, it doesn't suit all adults! Some babies need lots more physical contact. I have one of them too. Frankly, I would rather have this than a baby who didn't like cuddles!

And just remember that it's supposed to be the bright ones who don't sleep...

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abi2790 · 22/05/2013 15:47

Good news . it seems the purple blotches on his skin are just pigmentation marks. Plus the Dr also agreed the rash on his tummy and chest is either viral or heat rash.

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lazzaroo · 22/05/2013 16:10

Good news abi

I'm in the middle of a nap dilemma. Baby lazza woke from last nap at 3pm, meaning she'll be tired at 5ish. Do I squeeze in another sleep or try stretching her out & seeing if it helps tonight?! If she doesn't nap she'll be ready for bed by 6.30 (& getting there will be a struggle!) so is likely to fall asleep while feeding before taking full feed. If she sleeps, she still settles easily at 7ish but does she need to be more tired. I've also thought that well rested during the day = better night time but last night disproved that spectacularly!!

larlemucker · 22/05/2013 16:42

Glad it's nothing serious abi

Thank you goat, it is like he doesn't want to fall asleep incase he misses something!

Think watching me clean the fridge and the dog run round the garden had tired him out!!

lazza not sure what to try. However it looks like baby larle is about to have another nap so we might be in the same situation!

lazzaroo · 22/05/2013 16:59

Well, she's yawning & rubbing her eyes but is getting in a right state if I try and settle her in the pushchair. Might cheat & see if she'll have a sleepy feed for a few minutes just to recharge?!

lazzaroo · 22/05/2013 18:32

Well, she didn't nap and is having bedtime feed now. I was expecting a meltdown but so far so good. She's very sleepy though so not sure how much milk she's actually taking and I won't be able to get any wind out of her but never mind!

On a completely different note.....she did her first proper laugh today . She must have known I needed it!

Good luck for tonight everyone

larlemucker · 22/05/2013 18:52

Isn't it fab when they laugh lazza, you can forgive them all the sleepless nights!!

Lost 1.5lb at WW!! 1/2 a lb and I will have lost a stone and a half!
Worried about my friend though, I overheard the leader tell her she had put 2lb on but when I asked her she said she had stayed the same. She has serious health issues and needs to lose weight and if she us lying to me she'll be lying to herself. What do I do?

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abi2790 · 23/05/2013 02:06

Wow it's quiet tonight. Second feed here. I think Ds has tummy ache. He keeps farting and whimpering when passing wind. He's also really hot so he's just in a vest and grobag tonight.

What does everyone do about do about quick feeders at night? Do you try and get them to have a longer feed or let them go back to sleep?

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SoYo · 23/05/2013 02:35

Hi All

Larle a friend directed me to this article the other day that made me feel a bit better. I can definitely pick out some bits that apply to DD. I'm determined not to feel bad about feeding to sleep because she won't bloody get there any other way and we both need to sleep sometime. Also we've not managed to DTD here yet & I've still not got around to getting my coil sorted, everything just seems too much effort!

www.askdrsears.com/topics/fussy-baby/high-need-baby/12-features-high-need-baby

Abi my Bubs has nights like that where she's unexpectedly hot, it's usually just one offs but she definitely only needs a vest on those days. She's got tummy ache today too. Crying when farting & not had a poo for over 48hrs which is most unlike her. Wish the was something I could do to help. As for quick feeds, if I'm awake enough I keep putting her back on until I think she's had a good go because otherwise I get the fear she'll wake up again too quickly.

SoYo · 23/05/2013 02:36

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high need baby

HadALittleFaithBaby · 23/05/2013 03:29

Hello all. Second feed of the night here. Only fed for 7 mind last feed then she fell asleep! abi I try to keep her awake (feet tickling) but if she's well asleep I just accept she'll be awake again sooner rather than later ;2 hour interval just now),

larlemucker · 23/05/2013 03:30

Thanks soyo I'll have read if I can keep my eyes open

We're on second feed, vast improvement on last night. In fact he has just had 2 hours IN HIS COT!!!

Feeling a bit crappy, can't keep eyes open, had headache all day. Baby larle has a cold and I think I'm getting it.

He had a little bit if apple on its own today. Some very strange faces were pulled!!!

Re quick feeds in night. If I can bothered ill compress or put him in other side to fill up

lazzaroo · 23/05/2013 05:25

Morning. We"re up! Been awake since 4.40. Hoping she might actually want to go back to sleep in a minute. And I don't know when I fed her last night, I lost track. Still, DH home tonight. Thank god! It's been a very long week.

Re: quick feeds. She always feeds quickly. Rarely more than 5-10mins in the day. And it varies at night. But I have over supply & fast let down so think it's all she needs. She's always been fast!

larlemucker · 23/05/2013 05:55

Well wakings have gone from every hour to every 2 tonight and I managed to settle him once with a dummy.

Dunno if I'm coming down with something though, don't feel fab

lazzaroo · 23/05/2013 06:04

Still awake & now dd1 is up too so that's my sleeping done for the day. Another pre-5am wake up.

larle hope you feel better soon. Tired & unwell is not a good combination!

Emilythornesbff · 23/05/2013 07:19

Morning all.
Babythorne settled well after taking some ebm around 8.30 so I went to the gym about 9 ish. It was great. Everyone (including dh) was asleep by the time I got back. So a great start to the night.

Then babythorne fed in the middle of the night but I fell asleep[guilt] and after I put her in here cot DS woke up and needed a cuddle, then babythorne needed a feed and finally DS was up at 5:30.
I could loyally remove my own eyes right now. Thank goodness for the "milkshake" show on ch5.

I'e been reading your posts. It's remarkable how some women can make money out of us with their wonderfully helpful books, and at the same time make us feel like inadequate failures. Now that's multitasking at its most productive.
The only book I found both helpful and comforting was "the no cry sleep solution" by elizabeth pantley.

Our babies are still small. This time will be over before we know it and we'll be wondering whe the time went. Looking at oth ppl's babies saying" oh I wish mine were still tiny, they grow so fast"
Some of the advice is probably useful but I think we need to be careful we don't just hear criticism when we read these things.
You are all lovely mums.

See you tonight.

Emilythornesbff · 23/05/2013 07:21

Loyally??? Wtf?
I think I meant to write actually.
It's true.

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abi2790 · 23/05/2013 08:19

Sorry for the bad nights . Ds was up again at 6 but I managed to get him back to sleep so I got another hour so thankfully I'm not as tired as I have been.

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Anypants · 23/05/2013 10:29

I agree em - when DD is screaming the house down it's frustrating but the second she drops off to sleep I give her a gentle little squeeze and it makes my heart smile
She's got into a rather nasty habit of waking around 5.30 and then not bothering to go back to sleep after her feed. I guess it's the light mornings