How to stay awake during night feeds part 6 - all welcome to join us!

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Hi everyone, cannot believe we have exchanged over 5000 messages!

mrsn when we shared our locations on here a while back, heff, goat and I all turned out to live near Uxbridge so we met up having met on here. It is lovely, if you are ever down south let us know!

macaroons sounds like we are in the same boat I officially return to work on 15 Feb but that is actually the Friday before half term so only have that day and then another week off before full time return hits. I am lucky that DH is being a SAHD til 1st July so no drop offs, pick ups or worries about the childminder ringing me because babyfunch is ill etc, and she is in great hands with him, much as I have been critical of him til we talked it over recently. However I am worried about being at work on no sleep - I will get in a lot of trouble if I lose my rag with a pupil or indeed a member of my team (one of whom is a pain). I will have to perfect the art of letting some things go (eg uniform issues in the corridor as opposed to in my lessons - I spend a lot of time arguing with pupils about these and intend to stop save for the very worst!) and dealing with others by just reporting bad behaviour to heads of year rather than dealing with it myself. I am head of faculty so will focus just on what happens in lessons in my faculty rather than working quite so hard on having the best corridor behaviour in the school in my area - it is great having that but takes a lot of time, energy and conflict so it will just have to go n the back burner until I am getting proper sleep again. At this rate dd will be in year 7 by then herself and can help me!

Ugh, every two hours so far Hope you're all having better nights

3rd feed here, hourly wakings since 1am . DH is having a sneezing fit so when I go back to our room he can leave or die if it is still going on! he sneezes far more than is necessary!

Might give babyfunch some calpol as she seems to be in pain, possibly teething I guess

mrsn I too find it hard to believe we are on part 7, almost! might go back and look at earliest ones too, sounds fun!

Who was it that mentioned missing continuous sleep? I can remember the last time I had continuous sleep. It was December 23 2010!!!! Found out I was pg with DD on Christmas Day 2010 then had HG and so was up in the night, then when HG finished I was heavily pg, then feeding her in the night, she only slept through when I was 3 months pg with the boys and by that time I was waking frequently to wee, then uncomfy as I got massive v quickly and now we're in newborn mode again. I dream of a full nights sleep, when I get the chance to dream that is!

Really struggling with the tiredness at the moment. DP is back at work tomorrow so the leisurely feeds in bed and resting will now be a thing of the past, even if I've got help this week.

Smallest boy is not really getting the feeding tonight, keeps nipple hanging, can't wait for the tongue tie cut. Might wear my nipple shields again for him until then.

Hope everyone else is ok.

Of course Kid picks the night when I feel crap to give us the worst night in weeks. Has been one epic transfer fail since 10pm

Thanks for the offers of help, heff and funch I will see how I in the morning, doubtless will be springing in a sprightly fashion through the daisies!

hi all, may I join you as I don't know where else to go?

I have been resisting joining as mine isn't really a feeding issue. just an ever changing sleep pattern in my 5 month old. and it is never in my favour. add dh snoring and I only ever get 3 hours sleep every night.

now they are both fast asleep, as usual. the resentment mounts.

Been up hourly since 1. DD1 in our room since then with a temp ad earache. Have given up trying to sleep. Missmarbles in here too now. Sorry not to try harder with name checking for last week or so. Have been reading but so knackered all the time, can hardly ever remember what I've read. So fed up. Why does she not sleep better at 6 months?? I know she will eventually, and DD1 was the same, but in the wee small hours it is so upsetting. During the day, I'm fine; tired but fine. Every evening I think, tonight will be better, then by the third feed I'm past myself
Sorry, self indulgent whinge.

What is even worse I think, is that she used to be so much better at the whole sleep thing, but we had the 4 month regression then illness then teething symptoms (despite nothing seemingly happening on that front til yesterday), and it just hasn't improved
Some nights are better than others but on the whole they're crap

marbles I feel your pain (though babybrain was never what I'd call a good sleeper). We're just short of 6 months and I can't help thinking that surely it's time for it to improve...
Though I've been told that teeth come in pairs so maybe the other is on the way?

geek welcome. Agree resentment is so hard to fight. Knowing dp is next door fast asleep is one of the worst things. It makes it so much harder when you feel like you're trying to do it all alone - but that's what this thp ead is for!

look you're clearly doing an amazing job. I'm sure you'll get a new rhythm going tomorrow (today?) When is the tt booked for? Hope it helps with things.

chilli, funch, goat - hope your nights improved...

Hello everyone, sorry too tired to namecheck right now, will be back on later when I have a few more brain cells functioning.

Stitch just been up for an hour and a half coughing and vomiting phlegm. Dd1 didn't even manage to eat dinner last night she was feeling so poorly. Haven't been outside properly for a week now, just wishing this bug would end now.

Sorry to hear of many bad nights. No continuous sleep since 2008 here.

Second feed here.

It's really uncomfortable feeding on the left side at the moment - the pain is in the nipple area so it's not a blocked duct. I started a thread for advice and it was suggested it's down to teething, but I'm not sure how to make it more comfortable?

I had this mrsn, I used loads of lansinoh and it was fine in a few days-going back to sleep but will pop back on later to say hello and update.

Welcome geek

It's not thrush is it MrsN?

Up.again,.Stitch woke coughing..

Shhhh everyone, I think he might actually be falling asleep!

marbles I am absolutely with you...

Anyone who bet id co sleep by 4am...... You're in the money :( ! I gave up after first bottle at 2am! He did sleep in with me 2-730 tho - if he would do that in the cot that would be AMAZING! Why won't he? Why why why? X

I hope it's not thrush I am trying to get a drs appointment for Wed anyway so if it's still the same I will ask them to check it!

I was told mrsn if the areola has gone shiny its thrush. Hope you get it sorted.
We ventured out to music class this morning, DS got into it more than DD!

I'm feeling tired already! Doesn't bode well for attempting no co-sleeping tonight, I just don't have the willpower in middle of night! X

We're going to attempt no co sleeping tonight as only sleeping on my left is making me have sore boobs, not good for bf!
Arthur is also finally starting to fall asleep without needing a boob which is great as it means I can have a break!
Fingers crossed for a better night tonight!

Hi all

ok I am clueless, its just one thing after another with babies lil pip is in bed its only 6 , he has had 4 x 20-45 min naps, he just can't seem to nap for longer and he obviously really needs longer naps as he is getting far to over tired so that when I am settling him for each nap he is crying

Does anyone have any clues??

I don't mind a napless day but he has to be normal not crying so much, my second son only took one 2 hour nap in the morning and would also go to bed at 6:30 but he was fine during the day and if he needed more, I would find him asleep anywhere he was

is 6 to early for a bed time, well it will be if he starts waking up far to early

I hope that you don't have thrush MrsN, any improvement today ??

Hope that those attempting to not co sleep tonight have a good night, I have never for the life of me been able to do it even though ds2 spent 4 months straight in my arms day and night including a one month trip to egypt in August needless to say I nearly died, mind you the baby meds you can get there

toodle baby chilli has a half hour nap every 2 hours and nothing I can do can make them longer, and he also cries for each nap but my thinking is it's protest crying rather than being overtired Although today he has barely napped at all which normally means he'll be screaming monster boy for bedtime so I'm not really looking forward to that. I will often put him to bed for the night at 6 if he seems like he wants to go, hope it works out ok for you.

We had a lovely time at soft play today but I think he was so overstimulated as it was so noisy and so much going on, I wonder if that's why he's napped so badly. He just can't seem to switch off, whereas my friends babies happily slept in their buggies

mrsn I hope it's not thrush, it would be a bit mean of the universe to dump that on you as well.

Good luck larle and amey with the non-co-sleeping. It made me smile amey when you were saying he has to have his head on your arm - baby chilli sleeps like a starfish and none of his limbs are allowed to touch me or he gets annoyed and pushes me away, so he gets most of the bed and I sleep precariously perched on the edge!

Kid is the perfect Gina Ford baby when it comes to daytime naps. He has about 30-45 mins at 9, then about 90 mins at about 1pm. Often then a little power nap at 4ish.
So WHY OH WHY OH WHY can't he follow a nice schedule at night???

Chilli I think it would too!! It's still the same at the moment. I managed to get an appointment on Wed so will ask then. I don't think it looks shiny but I can't really tell.

Thankfully I feel a bit better today mentally, starting this afternoon. Counselling really helped today too - we have started to talk about Cognitive Behavioural Therapy in helping me deal with my horrible thoughts.

I'm not going to WW tomorrow as I have students coming. I am going to start afresh then and hopefully at least get a stay the same next week. I have decided to change the way I approach it though, I need to spend more points on my meals rather than saving them all for sugar!!

Good luck with not co-sleeping guys!

Evening everyone :)

goat and stich hope you feel better soon, mrsn really hope whatever it is clears up quickly for you.

So ladies I need your opinions please, apologies if this ends up being long and rambling...

DH & I always planned to move to Cornwall in the next year-18 months, but he's now been offered a job interview there this weekend so theoretically if he got offered if he could chose to go within a month. There's no way we can afford for us all to move just yet and I don't think anyway I'd have a cat in hell's chance of getting a job until I've returned from mat leave and done a few months in my previous one first. His mum said he could live there rent free until later in the year (realistically August is probably the upmost earliest) when me & the girls can make the move and he's said he'd hope to be home here most weekends to make sure the girls don't miss him (and me too I hope!). Is this a really stupid idea? Am I nuts for even considering it? I just don't know, part of me thinks as jobs can be so hard to come by he needs to take whatever is offered whenever its offered, and that someone has to make the first move so it may as well be him. But part of me is terrified it could all go horribly wrong. So confused, what do you guys think?

On top of that he's offered to take dd1 with him at the weekend to "give me a break", but I don't know if I feel ok with her going that far for a weekend without me just yet, she's 2.4. I know her nanny & grandad would love to see her but its mostly the worry of that 4 hour journey each way. Having said that I suppose a little rest would be nice, only having dd2 would definitely mean a weekend off from toddler mayhem, but still, she's my pfb... Am I being precious?!

Thanks if you got to the end of that ramble btw!

Hope everyone's ok, will be back to read properly later xx

mrsn good to hear today's been a better day. Here's to the same for tomorrow :) xx

Ooh dark what a dilemma! I worked away from DH for almost 2 years and it worked ok for us but we didn't have DC, which makes a big difference. Do you think you could cope on your own during the week? I found we communicated better because we had to, and everything condensed into a weekend makes anytime together intense. And at least you won't be forking out 2 lots of rent!

mrsn so glad you're feeling a bit better

Attempting transfer, wish me luck...

I should add we're living at my parents at the moment while we save up, so I wouldn't be entirely alone during the week. DH is worried about what my parents are going to think of him but I think that's probably a minor concern in the long run.

chilli I think I could cope but I'm worried about enjoying it less iyswim because of being more knackered. Then I think of all the line parents doing great jobs on their own through no choice of their own and I think perhaps I'm being a bit silly.